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Beastdrol/Katanadrol 2.0 Stack - Log (first time AAS user)

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Uber-Joey

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Hey guys,

First cycle and experience with AAS. Been working out on/off for a long time, but have had a consistent and proper workout program for the past two years. In March I suffered from thumb tendinitis from heavy dumbbell benching which put me out of the gym for two months. I am now recovered and have been ramping up for two weeks with noticeable slight loss in strength.

Goal: Add mass (10lb-15lbs) and strength gains, but importantly lean muscle and clean cut bulk. Also, I don’t want it to be obvious to my friends that I’m a juicer so I am focused that this is my ONLY cycle of AAS ever. Not sure if anyone can relate but I'm filipino and have a high metabolism. I've gained 15lbs the past two years but seemed to lose gains at Nov 10.

Stats: 24yrs old, 5’6, 150lbs (will update muscle measurements (biceps, hams, chest, shoulder, neck) on Monday morning before I start my cycle)

On Cycle:
  • 1-4 Beastdrol (20/30/30/30)
  • 1-4 Katanadrol (250/250/250/250)
  • 1-4 N2guard
  • 1-4 HCGenerate 5 caps a day
  • 3-8 need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day

Post Cycle:
  • 4-8 HCGenerate 5 caps a day
  • 4-8 Unleashed and Post Cycle, 1 cap 3 times a day
  • 4-8 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and 5 pumps

I was going to run Beast/Katana split (Beasts 1-4, Katana 2-6) , but that requires more N2Guard and Unleashed/Post Cycle. Spent too much already!

Thanks for everyone for helping me with this cycle (especially need2) but feel free to give me more advice/changes to cycle.

I am starting my cycle on 5/30, will update this thread every other day/week.
 
Uber-Joey said:
Hey guys,

First cycle and experience with AAS. Been working out on/off for a long time, but have had a consistent and proper workout program for the past two years. In March I suffered from thumb tendinitis from heavy dumbbell benching which put me out of the gym for two months. I am now recovered and have been ramping up for two weeks with noticeable slight loss in strength.

Goal: Add mass (10lb-15lbs) and strength gains, but importantly lean muscle and clean cut bulk. Also, I don’t want it to be obvious to my friends that I’m a juicer so I am focused that this is my ONLY cycle of AAS ever. Not sure if anyone can relate but I'm filipino and have a high metabolism. I've gained 15lbs the past two years but seemed to lose gains at Nov 10.

Stats: 24yrs old, 5’6, 150lbs (will update muscle measurements (biceps, hams, chest, shoulder, neck) on Monday morning before I start my cycle)

On Cycle:
  • 1-4 Beastdrol (20/30/30/30)
  • 1-4 Katanadrol (250/250/250/250)
  • 1-4 N2guard
  • 1-4 HCGenerate 5 caps a day
  • 3-8 need2slin 1 cap 3 times a day

Post Cycle:
  • 4-8 HCGenerate 5 caps a day
  • 4-8 Unleashed and Post Cycle, 1 cap 3 times a day
  • 4-8 forma-stanzol 5 pumps am and 5 pumps

I was going to run Beast/Katana split (Beasts 1-4, Katana 2-6) , but that requires more N2Guard and Unleashed/Post Cycle. Spent too much already!

Thanks for everyone for helping me with this cycle (especially need2) but feel free to give me more advice/changes to cycle.

I am starting my cycle on 5/30, will update this thread every other day/week.
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Bro..at that height and weight 10-15lbs of muscle is going to show and people will notice. you will get very good gains from the products you got.
 
lol famous last words :) but good luck to you
 
Um are these really considered AAS. I just thought of ph's as that, a ph not a steroid. I am just wondering





Below you will find Needto showing me Earthrider how little I truly know about steroids and their difference from Pro hormones. I feel in my heart that no one should take any kind of advice from me what so ever. I now know that I need many many more years of research before I start advising other people and trying to speak about subjects as if I know something about them. WHen in reality I know nothing about them at all.DO NOT EVER EVER TAKE MY ADVICE EVER. THERE IS A GREAT CHANCE I COULF HURT YOU WITH MY ADVICE. PLEASE FORGIVE ME FOR TRYING TO TALK ABOUT THINGS I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!!!!!!!!


Beastdrol is not a pro hormone. MY friend please know and learn the difference between a "pro hormone" and a steroid

A pro hormone needs conversion by enzymes ether in the stomach, the liver, or the skin to lock onto its structure and "convert it" to a active hormone that will have a effect on ether the androgen receptor (AR) progestistin receptor (PR) Estrogen receptor (ER)
or other mechanisms.

A steroid on the other hand is a active compound that needs no conversion and is Active. That is the simple la-mans explanation for most people. Simple and very very easy to understand for all.


Steroids can be described as terpenoid lipids that typify a sterane core with certain added functional groups. The center of
a steroid comprise of a complex carbon structure made from four adjoined rings, a single cyclopentane ring and three other cyclohexane rings. Steroids can be categorized on the basis of two distinct features, whether the rings in the core have functional clusters attached to them or not and also on the basis of the condition of rings after oxidation. On the other hand, as the very name suggests, a prohormone is a substance that precedes a hormone. Prohormones portray the most minimum hormonal effects when left by themselves. Prohormones are enzymic substances that need to undergo chemical reactions and interactions in order to become an active hormone

OK now that we have explained the different between a steroid and a pro hormone . Let us now show everyone what beastdrol is.


Beastdrol is a true a anabolic steroid. It originally hit the market known as Superdrol, which has been discontinued due to pressure from the FDA. It is NOT a pro-hormone. Beastdrol is described as a cross between Anavar and Masteron but in reality, it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone, or Masteron. Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position. Thus making this steroid double methylated oral masterone.

This would explain why WAY before your time and most peoples time before it was coined the name Superdrol it was almost always called methyl methasterone by its original creators and scientist of the old steroid nation lol. Later its name ( like always) was shortened to methasteron and then when it was first produced by the very first "supplement company" ever it finally got its name superdrol.

Superdrol aka beastdrol has been around just as long as any other well known steroid out there. It just never hit it big in the medical community! because simple put , It was way way way to damn Anadrolic and also double Methylated so Medical Community leaders felt that What ever use this drug had medically could be done with a different steroid that is less anadrolic/anabolic and with less side effects. Although I suspect it had more to do with just having less side effects back then though..

Because during the time of its creation The medial community was still under the impression that steroids caused no muscle growth at all having no anabolic/anadrolic effects .

Methasterone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If some would just bother to do even a tiny bit of research before they start trying to speak like they know something. We would all move light years ahead and stop going around and around in circles sharing misinformation over and over again..


All I am asking guys is that before you open your mouth. Stop and think just for a little wile. Think to your self " do I really really know what I am talking about? Am I a expert in this subject? ok maybe not even a expert, just ask your self have you completely researched the subject? DO you truly know what you are talking about before you speak as if you do?


I love all you guys. However I am so so sorry that anyone who says beastdrol is not a steroid or some how cant nderstand that it is a 100% steroid is not a very bright person at all. PLease do not listen to a single word this kind of a person has to say..

You truly can not trust you life, your health, youre money, gains, and all things meaningful to you in your life to some one like this. SOme one who cant even be bothered to research things enough to know "simple" things.

please do not think I am trying to be condescending in any way because I am not and I do not mean to be.. But the simple "fact" that beastdrol is a steroid and other products sold at mrsupps.com are steroids to. This is very simple, basics , common knowledge. So basic and simple that a 30 second google search would give you all the information you needed to see this..

I love you guys.
 
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You're probably right, it's not a steroid but instead has a steroid like effect.

Update day 1: Started the day with 2 caps Katana, 3 caps n2 guard, 3 caps hcgenerate. Felt great, no sides except was coming back from a camping trip and felt like hercules when packing up but felt great. Took beast 20mg an hour w/ n2guard before workout and preworkout juice, and it felt weird. Workout was great, felt great pumps and insane endurance but not pushing it too much yet. During my 1 mile run before lifting weights, felt my lower back tightening up which was weird, and it wasnt a back pump. It was tolerable and just had to stretch it out after my run.

During my workout, I ended up feeling pretty crappy, had a headache and did not feel energetic, although i was still able to workout. I had a hard time drinking the post workout shake, then started feeling nauseated after my dinner. I thought I was going to throw up but ran and drank more water.

I did some searching on the forums and found it should go away hopefully. Tomorrow i'm going to split up the 2 caps maybe morning and before workout. Something i've been noticing but I'm also gripping everything really tight not knowing i am.
 
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oh ok, I was going to say, I thought this stuff from needto was legal, lol
 
Quick update on day 2 - took beastdrol 20mg one hour apart, and took half my serving of n2guard with it. Much better and no side effects.

Sleeping last night was hard, felt really hot and had a hard time getting a hard on before sexy time with the wife.
 
im no scientist but IMO beast is a steroid not a ph.... last cycle I gained too mucht weight... ok not too much but dang it was a lot.
 
Today was amazing, I did chest yesterday, and usually I'm sore the very next day everytime I do chest but I felt fully recovered today. I am actually surprised because I pushed myself alot more with heavier reps.

It was a leg/cardio/ab day today and I'm already feeling the strength gains! Ive added 20 more lbs to my squats (reps) and I've been able to complete alot more reps than normally.

So far sides have gone away with split doses of beastdrol 1hr. I will weigh in on friday.

Im already feeling alot slightly leaner, especially in my abs. Will

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It's been an amazing first week! Weight fluctuates alot, and I've weighed in at 162lbs on some nights (after dinner however, with clothes on). This morning, after dropping a deuce and only wearing undies, I'm at 156.8lbs. That's a 6lb gain in SIX DAYS with a really crappy diet!

I'm noticing my body is getting more definition, but it's hard to see if i'm actually getting leaner in my waist because I've always been lean. My arms, back, shoulders, chest, traps, calves - all getting more definition and I'm noticing an increase in size already.

Sometimes I'll experience a slight headache, but no sides at all after splitting the beastdrol hours apart.
 
Diet has been really crappy, i try for 3000 a day, but am doing about 2300 along with 150-160g protein. Today i just consumed 3k + calories, along with over 200g protein, i will try to make this my diet for the next few weeks but gas is terrible and went through this last year.

Quick update - still taking 20mg beast daily / 250mg katanadrol daily and pumps have continued, and my body is looking great. My back is amazingly ripped and i'm beginning to get a more defined V shaped back. I've been focusing on my arms though twice a week and hope its getting bigger. I'll measure at the end of this week. Recovery is just amazing, I'm barely feeling a soreness in muscles the next day so I'm starting to push myself more with more weight and more reps.

For some reason, cardio has been tough for me. My lower back gets tight when running almost like its going to cramp but doesnt, and my shin muscles for some reason seem to be getting a hella of a workout and also getting tight when running. I find that I have to walk for a few seconds to let it rest. Cardio endurance seems like it's also going down a bit. I'm starting to feel my right lower side of my body ache just a little bit, but completely tolerable (pain is probably .5 out of 10) and still able to workout.
 
EarthRider said:
Um are these really considered AAS. I just thought of ph's as that, a ph not a steroid. I am just wondering
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Beastdrol is not a pro hormone. MY friend please know and learn the difference between a "pro hormone" and a steroid

A pro hormone needs conversion by enzymes ether in the stomach, the liver, or the skin to lock onto its structure and "convert it" to a active hormone that will have a effect on ether the androgen receptor (AR) progestistin receptor (PR) Estrogen receptor (ER)
or other mechanisms.

A steroid on the other hand is a active compound that needs no conversion and is Active. That is the simple la-mans explanation for most people. Simple and very very easy to understand for all.


Steroids can be described as terpenoid lipids that typify a sterane core with certain added functional groups. The center of
a steroid comprise of a complex carbon structure made from four adjoined rings, a single cyclopentane ring and three other cyclohexane rings. Steroids can be categorized on the basis of two distinct features, whether the rings in the core have functional clusters attached to them or not and also on the basis of the condition of rings after oxidation. On the other hand, as the very name suggests, a prohormone is a substance that precedes a hormone. Prohormones portray the most minimum hormonal effects when left by themselves. Prohormones are enzymic substances that need to undergo chemical reactions and interactions in order to become an active hormone

OK now that we have explained the different between a steroid and a pro hormone . Let us now show everyone what beastdrol is.


Beastdrol is a true a anabolic steroid. It originally hit the market known as Superdrol, which has been discontinued due to pressure from the FDA. It is NOT a pro-hormone. Beastdrol is described as a cross between Anavar and Masteron but in reality, it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone, or Masteron. Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position. Thus making this steroid double methylated oral masterone.

This would explain why WAY before your time and most peoples time before it was coined the name Superdrol it was almost always called methyl methasterone by its original creators and scientist of the old steroid nation lol. Later its name ( like always) was shortened to methasteron and then when it was first produced by the very first "supplement company" ever it finally got its name superdrol.

Superdrol aka beastdrol has been around just as long as any other well known steroid out there. It just never hit it big in the medical community! because simple put , It was way way way to damn Anadrolic and also double Methylated so Medical Community leaders felt that What ever use this drug had medically could be done with a different steroid that is less anadrolic/anabolic and with less side effects. Although I suspect it had more to do with just having less side effects back then though..

Because during the time of its creation The medial community was still under the impression that steroids caused no muscle growth at all having no anabolic/anadrolic effects .

Methasterone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If some would just bother to do even a tiny bit of research before they start trying to speak like they know something. We would all move light years ahead and stop going around and around in circles sharing misinformation over and over again..


All I am asking guys is that before you open your mouth. Stop and think just for a little wile. Think to your self " do I really really know what I am talking about? Am I a expert in this subject? ok maybe not even a expert, just ask your self have you completely researched the subject? DO you truly know what you are talking about before you speak as if you do?


I love all you guys. However I am so so sorry that anyone who says beastdrol is not a steroid or some how cant nderstand that it is a 100% steroid is not a very bright person at all. PLease do not listen to a single word this kind of a person has to say..

You truly can not trust you life, your health, youre money, gains, and all things meaningful to you in your life to some one like this. SOme one who cant even be bothered to research things enough to know "simple" things.

please do not think I am trying to be condescending in any way because I am not and I do not mean to be.. But the simple "fact" that beastdrol is a steroid and other products sold at mrsupps.com are steroids to. This is very simple, basics , common knowledge. So basic and simple that a 30 second google search would give you all the information you needed to see this..

I love you guys.
 
Katanadrol

Clones: Furaguno, Furazadrol, Furuza-A, Winabol/Winadrol
Nomenclature: 5a-androstanol[2,3]furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol
Chemical Formula: C24H36N2O3

Common Dosages: 150mg to 300 mg daily.
Common Cycle Length: 4-8 Weeks.
Methylated: No
Half-Life: Short (5-6 hours)
Possible Side effects: very mild, increased anxiety, slightly increased blood Pressure, back pumps and etcetera. Any side effects a you could expect from a light winny cycle you could expect from this compound. Increased sex drive can happen as the drug will lower progesterone/prolactin

Notes: Great cutter, decent strength gains, lean and dry gains best compound for cutting/lean bulk or retaining muscle well cutting foranyone. One of the most safest otc steroids of all as well as the most versitile and stackable steroids on the market today.

Through out this write up I will call this compound Katanadrol because this is the highest dosed brand there is and it is one of the purest. Truthfully all other brands are dosed so low they are not even worth taking . You ether run this compound at above 200mg a day or dont even bother IMO. Unless you are stacking it with other compounds.


Katanadrol
Directions: As a dietary supplement, adult Men take 150-300mg spread throughout the day. For optimal results take 2 caps prior to workout on work out days for the increased aggression effects . For best results use for 4-8 weeks followed by an equal amount of time off. Do not exceed recommended dose.

Katanadrol is a potent non-methylated steroid compound capable of producing incredibly hard, dense muscle gains. It is perfect for athletes looking to get cut and ripped by dramatically increasing muscle definition. It is highly anabolic, minimally androgenic, and does not aromatize(cause estrogen gyno) in the body. If you are looking for a pro-steroid that will give you quality gains in muscle mass without troubling estrogen related side effects, Katanadrol is the answer. It works outstandingly well at preserving muscle mass well trying to cut body fat.

Katanadrol is not aromatized in the body and is not estrogenic. An additional anti-estrogen should not be necessary and estrogen related side effects should not be a concern. Katanadrol may also act as an antagonist with progesterone, which can help eliminate progesterone related side effects. Progesterone side effects are generally similar to estrogen related side effects, so eliminating them will help enhance lean muscularity. The progesterone lowering effects of Katanadrol make it the perfect combanation with pro-steroids like Deiselbolan to enhance the cycle as well as lessen any
Would be progesterone side effects caused by the deiselbolan.

Additionally, Katanadrol has the ability to suppress levels of sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG). SHBG acts to temporarily constrain hormones from exerting activity and SHBG reduces the available percentage of unbound (active) hormone. What this means as well using katanadrol not only will androgen levels increase but "free" and usable androgen levels will increase. Yet one more attribute
That makes katanadrol the best stacking steroid ever created.

Furazabol THP(Katanadrol) is the same compound as the illegal anabolic steroid furazabol except it is not 17aa methylated. Once the Katanadrol reaches the stomach, most of the compound is converted to Furazabol (the non-methylated version). Therefore, Topical delivery of this compound is probably not worthwhile. Furazabol has a similar structure to the illegal anabolic steroid stanozolol (winstrol). The only difference is the pyrazole ring has been replaced with a furazan ring.

The half-life of this compound is short, so dosages should be taken every few hours to keep blood levels stable. Although furazabol can successfully be used as a standalone it can be stacked with other compounds depending on the users goals.



Users should run this compound with other cholesterol lower sups like N2guard. And follow up your cycle with a proper pct ( unleashed,post cycle, forma-stanzol at the least).Because of its extremely short half life if you get sides you can drop the product and they should drop off quickly
 
thanks Needto for the education!

today's rest day, and after dropping a deuce and the end of week 2, i'm at 158.8 this morning. Weight fluctuates a lot though, I've seen myself at 162 with only shorts on and this was yesterday. its looking like it's all lean muscle, and man, i AM GETTING RIPPED! I've been eating over 2800 calories, 250g protein daily this week.

Another side effect i'm noticed: lethargy and wrists pain/soreness. I have been falling asleep at work and I did not realized it was tied to the beast/katana until two days ago when i fell asleep at my desk for 2 hours. my joints and wrists have also had some slight pain, but tolerable.
 
Lol, not really!

Quick update - 160.2lbs today this morning, after dropping a deuce. This is my final weight at the end of week 2. I'm thinking about taking it up to 30mg beastdrol before i start my week 3 today... but i feel my liver swelling up from the side ache i've been feeling.

Going to do measurements today after i get home from work.
 
I'm up exactly 10lbs at the end of week 2.

How much have you gained total from a cycle of beast with that dosage? And did you take any additional liver support? Thinking about increasing dosage but I don't think n2 guard is enough.

Quick update: began need2slin today and noticed some heartburn everytime I took it. I read it may be getting stuck to my throat so drinking alot of water helped.

I also noticed today as I was walking my pants were feeling really tight in my thigh area. I just measured my legs, and it freakin grew 5 INCHES. I went from 17inches to 22inches in two weeks! My leg size before was really sad I know but Ive had really bad chicken legs all my life but now I look proportionate! No wonder why I can squat way more!

Other measurements:
calves 14.7 -> 15.6
Hamstrings/Quads 17 -> 22
Forearm 12 -> 12.5
Bicep 14 -> 14.6 (flexed)

I misplaced my chest, shoulder, waist and neck measurements but I will find it and post my increases on those tomorrow.
 
Uber-Joey said:
I'm up exactly 10lbs at the end of week 2.

How much have you gained total from a cycle of beast with that dosage? And did you take any additional liver support? Thinking about increasing dosage but I don't think n2 guard is enough.

Quick update: began need2slin today and noticed some heartburn everytime I took it. I read it may be getting stuck to my throat so drinking alot of water helped.

I also noticed today as I was walking my pants were feeling really tight in my thigh area. I just measured my legs, and it freakin grew 5 INCHES. I went from 17inches to 22inches in two weeks! My leg size before was really sad I know but Ive had really bad chicken legs all my life but now I look proportionate! No wonder why I can squat way more!

Other measurements:
calves 14.7 -> 15.6
Hamstrings/Quads 17 -> 22
Forearm 12 -> 12.5
Bicep 14 -> 14.6 (flexed)

I misplaced my chest, shoulder, waist and neck measurements but I will find it and post my increases on those tomorrow.
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I've always gained aroud 15-20lbs. I always bulk on Beastdrol. Usually come outta PCT with 10-12lbs kept. You'll drop quite a bit of water after coming off bro..

N2Guard is enough for the cycle. Good stuff :biggrin:

Oh and with the N2SLIN.... It's not heartburn, I get it too, I call it the N2S burn, you'll get it about 10mins after taking it and then as soon as you eat it goes away... This is how you know this stuff is legit... I know it's working.
 
I'm about to run this very stack but at the max dosage for 4 weeks :evil: subbed to this log!
 
Starting week 4 today, and taking it up to 30mg beast a day.

Measurements I forgot to update last week:
Chest 39 -> 41
Shoulders (overarm) 48 -> 50
Neck 16 1/2 -> 16 1/2 (even though my traps got bigger)

Update for end of week 3:
Weight has been the same, at 160lbs but I've also stopped taking weight gainer and eating high carbs. Will start high carb and calorie diet again this week before the week is over along with 30mg beast. I'm also thinking need2slin may have had some effect on my weight, and beginning to lean me out a bit which is why i didnt gain weight last week.

Let me tell ya, coworkers started noticing my shoulders and back get bigger end of first week. But I saw my family for the first time in a month yesterday for father's day, and the have all noticed I'm getting big, and a little too big! My shoulders and my traps are pretty big now! My upper back is getting bigger and wider. I actually got accused of steroids, which i denied :) I've noticed the most muscle gain in my legs, gluts, and calves.

Lethargy has gone away since i started taking need2slin, which is great news. I'm getting pretty bloated, but that's mostly to blame the high protein diet I've been on (250g - 300g daily). Endurance is still slacking, I'm getting tired fast when running. Mile went from 7:45 to 9:30, having to stop to walk often. No hair loss, or acne. Honestly I think my back has actually gotten more clear with this cycle.
 
Beast does that stuff to you regarding your Cardio and back pains. It is my favorite PH to use and I consistantly gain 15-20lbs on it and keep 10-15 PCT. Its why I have 7 bottles of it under my bed (with more coming soon!).
 
stomach bloated or water retention bloated?
 
My bad, stomach bloat but it's mainly from gas.

Suffered from libido and loss of appetite last night, and also felt a little nauseated after my workout. I felt pretty sick. I'm sure this was due to upping to 30mg. Today however, I experienced it again, but it was not as bad. I feel fine!
 
It just means your having a great workout. Your pushing yourself, Beast makes you blast through workouts like they are nothing. I had a few times when I was just about to puke while on beast. Drink a lot of water and keep eating, Beast will treat you right! LOL
 
oh alright lol get some antacid chews like tums it will eliminate your indigestion gas and nausea...
 
bikeluver43 said:
Beast does that stuff to you regarding your Cardio and back pains. It is my favorite PH to use and I consistantly gain 15-20lbs on it and keep 10-15 PCT. Its why I have 7 bottles of it under my bed (with more coming soon!).
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Ya I'll get some wicked calve pumps when trying to do cardio with Beastdrol... THat's why i use it solely as a bulker. I feel that's what its for.. Bulking and strength gains! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 
Quick update today:

Lethargy hasnt been as bad, seems like your body gets use to it. Had libido last night but after hcgenerate and dinner, i felt better and had some good sex with the wife.

Weight gains have stopped though, and i think i may be losing weight actually. Right now, im at 162. This morning I was at 158.6, after a big ass shit, however im super, super lean. My abs are poppin out now, and hard as hell. I think this is need2slin doing this.

My strength has been off the roof, i'm curling 50s dumbbells, can do 10 reps each arm. Wide chin pull ups are easy as hell. Shoulder flys and front raises (for delts) im able to rep 30lb each arm, and do 20 reps. My upper back is RIPPED and thick. I really want to see more thickness in my biceps/triceps/forearms though, so im doing a variation of arm workouts this week with enough recovery time.

Forgot to mention this, but my wrists began getting sore from the first week which was completely tolerable (2/10). This week, its hurting a little more (5/10). Im still able to lift, but this could be from pushing myself to the limit. Acne started to appear on my back and shoulders, only 4-5 pimples but they are sorta big. I think 30mg is doing it.

Side effects are minimal and dont outweight the benefits at all. My only regret so far is not starting 30mg daily on week 2 :( i couldve gained more weight and bulk.

Doing chest today. Ending my cycle on wednesday and will do measurements then. I hope i keep my strength and size gains during PCT.
 
Im not knocking you for using but man it saddens me that someone who is 5'6 150lbs thinks they need hormones to put on 10-15lbs of lean muscle :/. You have so much room to go naturally and most ppl dont even realize it. I just did my first cycle and im 5'9 220 lbs man and im by no means naturally a big guy. I do however feel if you can do without or with less than do so. Im no expert at all and I don't know nearly as much of some of these guys but what I do know is that you are taking a toll on your health for gains that you could have made with hard work.
 
Thanks beast, no offense taken at all and appreciate your opinion. I really thought hard about doing this before I did do it. I'm naturally a small guy, small build, and like ive said in my original post, i felt i hit my plateu for 6 months and could not gain any weight and especially did not see progress in my strength. This is of two plus years of working out hard, following a proper workout plan and taking weight gainer often, consuming 1.5x/weight protein, etc.

After your first cycle, did you not feel it was worth it? This is sad, but im actually im on the fence about doing another cycle, but just pure helladrol 4 weeks probably later in the fall.
 
wrist pain is common you're using 2 drying compounds bro don't worry too much about it
 
Uber-Joey said:
Thanks beast, no offense taken at all and appreciate your opinion. I really thought hard about doing this before I did do it. I'm naturally a small guy, small build, and like ive said in my original post, i felt i hit my plateu for 6 months and could not gain any weight and especially did not see progress in my strength. This is of two plus years of working out hard, following a proper workout plan and taking weight gainer often, consuming 1.5x/weight protein, etc.

After your first cycle, did you not feel it was worth it? This is sad, but im actually im on the fence about doing another cycle, but just pure helladrol 4 weeks probably later in the fall.
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Helladrol is an amazing product...you and I are a lot alike in stature etc as I said before. I have mainly used Beastdrol, Helladrol, and diesabolin over the last few months. Then I use phyto serms, Forma, and HCGenerate for recovery and to keep things going between cycles. I am amzed how it has changed my body.

My new thing now is these powerchews. The creatine and pre workout formulas are doing wonders for my MMA training.

The supplements available now adays are like genetic engineering!

LOL
 
Update for closing on cycle:

Gained 2-3lbs with 30mg beast the last week, leaving me at around 162-163ish. A total of over 12lb gain. Been bad about need2slin the past 3 days but will start taking it more for PCT. Ended up getting de quervain's tenosynovitis (thumb tendonitis) again from pushing myself too much over the weekend, but made sure to be on top of ibuprofen to reduce inflammation in the tendons. I'm better today.

Benefits:
Fast gains in lean muscle, my shoulders, traps, and legs are thicker
Great increase in strength, I feel much stronger and have been able to break a plateau
Determined and motivated when working out. I found myself working out longer, harder, and more. I was working out 6 days a week during this cycle, and targeted each muscle group at least twice weekly.
My favorite, FAST RECOVERY! I still got sore the next day, but not nearly as long as without.

Negatives:
Side effects were minimal (no gyno, deca, and barely any acne), but the one that bothered me the most was libido and lethargy. HCGenerate has done wonders for preventing and fixing this though.
Cardio endurance, mainly in running. My mile increased 2 minutes, and i have to run slower or just simply jog. This was possibly because of the back pumps and calve pumps.

I'm going to try and get measurements tonight when the wife gets home since i need help. So far, i have absolutely NO REGRETS and absolutely loved the experience. However, I really wish my arms gained a little bit more size, although i know they have gained at least an inch.

Started PCT today, and i really hope i dont lose any size and strength since i want this to be my only cycle, and instead just hope i lose the water weight. I'm going to push myself the next few months to make sure I keep my gains. I will update everyone weekly.
 
Uber-Joey said:
My bad, stomach bloat but it's mainly from gas.

Suffered from libido and loss of appetite last night, and also felt a little nauseated after my workout. I felt pretty sick. I'm sure this was due to upping to 30mg. Today however, I experienced it again, but it was not as bad. I feel fine!
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I feel you on the stomach bloat thing. I must be the gasiest person in the world. Drives me NUTS.
 
Yeah, gas sucks especially at work!

Update for PCT - have been steady at 160lbs, sometimes i see myself at 162. I dont think i lost any size though and have maintained my strength. I think my traps lost just a little bit of height, but my arms are continuing to grow. It might just be me thinking this since i have not measured.

Im also not ejactulating, its been a rough 10 days since i have but doing this to get the wife preggo when she ovulates. We read this helps increase sperm count, but also found a benefit in bodybuilding in increasing testosterone, which increases strength, muscle definition and fat loss. I noticed im keeping my aggressiveness when working out doing this.
 
Oh yeah, one more thing i wanted to add - my cardio is still bad. A normal mile which use to take me 7min to 8min average now takes me 9m30s to 11m. I have been doing cardio almost everday to get it back to normal.
 
needtogetaas said:
Katanadrol

Clones: Furaguno, Furazadrol, Furuza-A, Winabol/Winadrol
Nomenclature: 5a-androstanol[2,3]furazan-17b-tetrahydropyranol
Chemical Formula: C24H36N2O3

Common Dosages: 150mg to 300 mg daily.
Common Cycle Length: 4-8 Weeks.
Methylated: No
Half-Life: Short (5-6 hours)

Furazabol THP(Katanadrol) is the same compound as the illegal anabolic steroid furazabol except it is not 17aa methylated.
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Does this mean that it isn't liver toxic?
 
What kind of results can I expect from Beastdrol?

Beastdrol is extremely powerful. It will produce substantial increases in lean muscle tissue and strength. Many people report getting better gains in lean mass and strength with Beastdrol than with any other oral steroid, with the exception of the strength from Anadrol. Although, the dose used with Anadrol is usually 100mg or higher, when a 30mg dose of Beastdrol is comparable.

The actual amount of muscle and strength gained is unable to be determined. There are too many factors that go into a training and diet regimen to accurately tell anyone how much strength and size you will gain. It is safe to say though, you will not be disappointed with your results.

The type of gains that come from beastdrol are all lean. There is no bloat or fat gains, and noticeable increases in vascularity are reported by most users.
 
I'm a little nervous after weighing myself today. I have been around 158-160 the past two weeks, but I was at 155.8 after the bathroom today. Will update again tomorrow, this may have been because of the crazy hike I did yesterday in the blazing heat, causing my water weight to lower and I've been doing alot of cardio to get my endurance back and cut up.

Strength gains didn't seem to retain as much as id hope, but I still improved from pre-beast/katanadrol.
 
Looks like I'm consistently around 157-158 now, mustve been water weight.

My chest is looking flatter, does anyone know if I can stop taking forma?

PCT is done in one more day.
 
Uber-Joey said:
Looks like I'm consistently around 157-158 now, mustve been water weight.

My chest is looking flatter, does anyone know if I can stop taking forma?

PCT is done in one more day.
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If you have ran the 4 week pct you should be good to go to stop pct. Next time run some N2slin to stop any weight lost during pct.. Although I have to say you should not live by the scale so much and should always take pictures my friend. WHat you look and feel like matters so much more then how much you weight.
 
Thanks Needto.

EVERYONE - I got my blood test back today. Everything was completely HEALTHY! Cholesterol was at great levels which was my main concern and the doc said i was completely healthy. The only worrisome for me are my glucose levels, which was 2points above average and not a concern. This also has NOTHING to do with NTBM products since there was no sugar in anything I took.

I also got my BF and BMI done, 12.6% body fat and 25.6 BMI. I have no idea where I was at before, so that really sucks. Weight has been pretty steady at 156ish in the morning, with highs of 159-160 throughout the day. I have been doing a ton of cardio since I got on PCT, which may contributed to my weight loss, but I'm still at a solid 5-6lbs of solid muscle and also my cardio is back to normal, running 8min/mile casually again.

It's hard to tell how much i've kept as terms of strength. I injured my wrist again so I have been taking my lifting really slow, and currently only lifting low weights at high reps (20-30 reps). My legs however have kept their strength and still gaining more. As far as my upper body and back, i feel like they have had just a SLIGHT loss in size, but I could just be thinking this. I am definitely still a lot bigger than before i took this cycle. My goal right now is to cut up so I have more definition than bulk (beast did it) so we'll see how that goes. My legs and thighs have kept their size.

Still no regrets, and I recommend this to anyone that has been working out for a while, has been stuck and unable to reach goals (even after trying different fitness programs), and looking to break a plateau. I definitely have and I love it! Really, my only regret is that I did not take 3 caps of beast right at week 2, and not focusing on my glamour muscles as much as i wanted to (bicep/tricep/forarms).

Unfortunately though, I really am thinking about doing another cycle for permanent gains in a month or two. I dont want to have to keep doing this to keep my ideal weight (160lbs). What's everyone's suggestions? Should i go with test or stick with a oral cycle? Syringes are going to be pretty difficult to hide from the wife.
 
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next time I'ma up it to 4-5 caps and run it for 5 weeks
 
please wait longer than that to do another cycle.

keep doing some research on pct, time off, diet and training so you can get even more out of your next cycle.

oh and lol my first post in this thread was "famout last words" regarding your only cycle ever :)
 
Thanks for the advice. I may wait until Dec/Jan. I'm following a different training right now anyways that is suppose to be done in november. Haha, it really sucks I want to do another one, but we'll see. I may not depending what results i get naturally.

CK - how did your results go?
 
up about 8-10 lbs sides however are nonexistant no acne, no bloat, no headaches, no libido loss, only minor lethargy... def shoulda dosed it higher only reason I didn't was because everyone said the sides were horrible lol but I'm used to dosing my orals high
 
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