Top Ten Creationist Arguments Part 1 and 2

[billfred]

she's got fucked up teeth

nice tits but she;s not smoking

and a hot ass!!!

 

[samoth]

That's not his only arguments though, he makes many arguments for the possibility of God's existence. Craig's best argument in my opinion is the moral argument.

The irony is me poasting a link to a proof for the existance of God ITT but it being ignored by the science atheist doods because the proof has too much logic and math in it.

 

[mrplunkey]

The irony is me poasting a link to a proof for the existance of God ITT but it being ignored by the science atheist doods because the proof has too much logic and math in it.

You and I might be in the same camp. The scientist in me makes me believe there is no god, but then the atheists are so evangelical, obnoxious and irrational that it makes me want to check my math.

 

[samoth]

You and I might be in the same camp. The scientist in me makes me believe there is no god, but then the atheists are so evangelical, obnoxious and irrational that it makes me want to check my math.

Yeah, the arguments got old and stale after a while, and the fallacies of both sides obvious and ignored. I just go straight to the logical arguments nowadays, classical or modern, because the various sides are only looking at the argument and validity of the premises themselves without being pro- or anti- any belief. Unfortunetly, this isn't the way most people want to debate... but luckily, there exist a couple millenia of writings to read for personal enjoyment.

 

[Mr. dB]

You and I might be in the same camp. The scientist in me makes me believe there is no god, but then the atheists are so evangelical, obnoxious and irrational that it makes me want to check my math.

What a bizarre perspective. I dare say that for every evangelical atheist, there are thousands of similarly obnoxious Christian evangelists. The difference, apart from numbers, is that getting all Jesusy in other people's faces is somehow socially acceptable.

 

[mrplunkey]

What a bizarre perspective. I dare say that for every evangelical atheist, there are thousands of similarly obnoxious Christian evangelists. The difference, apart from numbers, is that getting all Jesusy in other people's faces is somehow socially acceptable.

I don't like evangelical, obnoxious, irrational Christians either.

I still have respect for people of faith, even though I believe they are wrong.

 

[javaguru]

I don't like evangelical, obnoxious, irrational Christians either.

I still have respect for people of faith, even though I believe they are wrong.

I agree, I supported the "ground zero mosque" and I support the right of the Muslims to build their mosque in that Tennessee town, Murfreesboro. I have always gone to church with my jesusy girlfriends and my mother. I also support the right of a valedictorian to talk about Jesus, Allah or Leprechauns in their speech but I don't support my tax dollars going to support religion.

I've never had someone approach me on the street or knock on my door and ask if I don't believe in god or leave a pamphlet proclaiming there is no god to believe in; I've never watched a movie where a character proclaims their disbelief in god in an inspirational moment. Honestly, there is no "atheist agenda" pushing their views on people, there is a strange perception among Christians that their 80% majority and 99.9999% majority in government is being persecuted because they can't force people to pray to Jesus in a public school or have their mythology taught as an alternative to science.

Likewise, I wish more people of faith would directly defend their religion as opposed to engaging in pointless arguments about the actual existence of a deity because they have to defend not only their views on morality and salvation but also public policy issues and why I'm going to hell even though the good I have done outweighs the bad and why their god would allow horrible person xyz into heaven if they accepted the dogma on their deathbed.

Finally,there are exactly four people IRL that know my personal view on religion. You shouldn't confuse internet chat and conversation posts with how people conduct themselves in real life.

 

[mrplunkey]

I agree, I supported the "ground zero mosque" and I support the right of the Muslims to build their mosque in that Tennessee town, Murfreesboro. I have always gone to church with my jesusy girlfriends and my mother. I also support the right of a valedictorian to talk about Jesus, Allah or Leprechauns in their speech but I don't support my tax dollars going to support religion.

I've never had someone approach me on the street or knock on my door and ask if I don't believe in god or leave a pamphlet proclaiming there is no god to believe in; I've never watched a movie where a character proclaims their disbelief in god in an inspirational moment. Honestly, there is no "atheist agenda" pushing their views on people, there is a strange perception among Christians that their 80% majority and 99.9999% majority in government is being persecuted because they can't force people to pray to Jesus in a public school or have their mythology taught as an alternative to science.

Likewise, I wish more people of faith would directly defend their religion as opposed to engaging in pointless arguments about the actual existence of a deity because they have to defend not only their views on morality and salvation but also public policy issues and why I'm going to hell even though the good I have done outweighs the bad and why their god would allow horrible person xyz into heaven if they accepted the dogma on their deathbed.

Finally,there are exactly four people IRL that know my personal view on religion. You shouldn't confuse internet chat and conversation posts with how people conduct themselves in real life.

I've never had anyone come to my door either, but there is this guy who clutters-up the front page of a popular C&C web site with trollish YouTube videos with the same old stuff again and again. He's the most evangelical person I've encountered in the past 10 years.

 

[ledhead]

I've never had anyone come to my door either, but there is this guy who clutters-up the front page of a popular C&C web site with trollish YouTube videos with the same old stuff again and again. He's the most evangelical person I've encountered in the past 10 years.

lolololololol......poor soul is just a little schizo. I think he was out chasing rabbits and fell into the rabbit hole. Maybe, he should ask Alice if there is a God, I'm sure she knows the truth....

 

[cindylou]

I agree, I supported the "ground zero mosque" and I support the right of the Muslims to build their mosque in that Tennessee town, Murfreesboro. I have always gone to church with my jesusy girlfriends and my mother. I also support the right of a valedictorian to talk about Jesus, Allah or Leprechauns in their speech but I don't support my tax dollars going to support religion.

I've never had someone approach me on the street or knock on my door and ask if I don't believe in god or leave a pamphlet proclaiming there is no god to believe in; I've never watched a movie where a character proclaims their disbelief in god in an inspirational moment. Honestly, there is no "atheist agenda" pushing their views on people, there is a strange perception among Christians that their 80% majority and 99.9999% majority in government is being persecuted because they can't force people to pray to Jesus in a public school or have their mythology taught as an alternative to science.

Likewise, I wish more people of faith would directly defend their religion as opposed to engaging in pointless arguments about the actual existence of a deity because they have to defend not only their views on morality and salvation but also public policy issues and why I'm going to hell even though the good I have done outweighs the bad and why their god would allow horrible person xyz into heaven if they accepted the dogma on their deathbed.

Finally,there are exactly four people IRL that know my personal view on religion. You shouldn't confuse internet chat and conversation posts with how people conduct themselves in real life.

No atheist agenda?

Atheists Trying to Stop Texas Governor?s Day of Prayer

New York Atheists Angry Over 'Heaven' Street Sign Honoring Sept. 11 Victims - FoxNews.com

Atheism Billboard for the Holidays in New Jersey - NYTimes.com

Oh please. The red herrings are annoying. If you want people to defend their particular religion don't start a thread about creation or intelligent design...or on about can people be good without God. You start the threads. No one is going to seriously take the time to defend their religion to someone that disrespectfully and stupidly compares their god to Santa Clause or Leprechauns. You can't even respect the locus of the whole discussion. I don't mind the threads though..they don't bother me at all. If only four people in your real life know the truth about you then you've got to get it out somehow...

You can't live forever even if you have a little bad in you...the good can't just outweigh the bad you have to be perfectly righteous. Surely you can understand that. A little bad can't stretch out into eternity, could you imagine what would happen? He can't allow it. Hell is something you don't have to accept to be a Christian or to accept a God but surely you can grasp the idea that we can't live forever and continue to populate out into eternity in our current state. Life is already hell on earth sometimes for this short amount of time. I can't think of one person who would want to live forever with our current shortcomings and condition as humans. You choose to not even have the opportunity to experience life in this perfect state. You are not sent to hell by God. You choose whatever your own fate is but he can't allow you to live eternal if you reject the blood sacrifice to make you righteous to be accepted in His presence.

Heaven? What? You do realize that any Christian worth speaking with does not believe the dead go to heaven right? We don't spend eternity there either... oookay... but anyway...Rebrobate mind. Horrible person xyz probably does not get an instance of the Holy Spirit convicting them on their deathbed though since I can't see invisible things I could never say for sure, but it's pretty clear that God gives certain people over to this rebrobate and worthless mind state. IDK where people get the idea that just because you're alive God keeps trying to convict you. Besides, who are you to say person xyz is so horrible? What makes you think you've done more good than bad? You take for granted that there is good. That good is God. You take for granted that you exist. You exist because God exists because God is existence.

That is why. But no one is convinced by clever little arguments but through conviction. Are you sure you're not making these threads when you're angry?

To me, in the past the position of the atheist was never a big deal. It was just a position like mine...but something different. I think culture has changed and it is more socially acceptable to be an atheist so you get all kinds...lol The new atheist is the average person who has thought a little about God in the context of Dawkins, evolution and religious extremism...reads "The God Delusion" and thinks those arguments actually disprove something.