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Your t3 experience?

Hi sinister

I know several people who've run T3, but none of them ran it on its own. They used Clenbuterol with it, but I certainly don't advise anyone do the same, especially on a first outing.
Apparently the two together have a synergistic or cumulative effect on fat stores.

I've never used it myself, because I'm worried about the catabolic effect it can have on the body. T3 increases metabolism and it isn't particularly choosy about where it gets its energy from.

There's also some debate about the potency or efficiency of specific bands of T3. Basically, some are more effective than others but this is far away a merely anecdotal viewpoint and is more to do with dosing and individual response to the drug. All being said, T3 is a powerful thyroid medication and you must do your homework before even considering its use.

That's my take. All the best :)

Craig
 
I'v had great experinces with it, but not planning to use it again anymore bc. Of all risks involved messing with thyroid hormones. There is also usually a rebound effect experienced by many, that makes it useless to many people, even though I managed to avoid it almost completely. So even with good experiences I had with it, I really don't recommend it, and even less swear by it. If there is something I swear by these days, it's definitely GW-50, it seems to be something my rats can't get enough of :p

Here's detailed information about my weight loss involving T3, if you feel like reading a short story.:rolleyes::D:D
I was really overweight not so long ago, and experimented with many weight loss drugs to get rid of my body fat, and to meet weight criteria to surgery for my knee. I lost about 35 kgs of fat in aprox.six months, and have been able to maintain my weight afterwards where I want it.
But NONE OF THIS WAS ACCOMPLISHED WITH USE OF T3! It was just one tiny factor, in very complicated process, most important factor of my weight loss was diet that I constantly kept tweaking (and still do). Diet was in major role also be cos I couldn't do any kind of effective cardio, since my knee was (and still is) in really terrible state. I'v been in line for my surgery for quite a while now, and luckily it will be done in few months. I haven't been able to walk over one KM without getting my whole leg hurt so bad that I can't sleep for a weeks, and this has been the case for many years (my knee has already done operated three times in between ten years time frame). So I'm really looking forward to get this surgery finally done, and start the recovery process.

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SinisterUproar said:
Doesn't seem like anything really great. Does anyone swear by this or really like it?
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As you probably know, T3 isn't that popular here at EF. T3 can be good (if not great) if used safely/properly and it can be extremely dangerous if misused. But that's true for most AAS, AI's and Serms also. I think sometimes boards just feel its sometimes safer to simply say don't use it and be safe, rather than to explain how to do it safely.

For me personally, in my studies of T3 I found it to be safe and beneficial when used properly. I also believe that your more likely to encounter thyroid problems naturally than with moderate recreational T3 use. Your also more likely to wind up on TRT after cycling AAS than to need permanent thyroid therapy after moderate T3 use. Just look around, nearly everyone (seems like it) is on TRT. And those that take doctor prescribed thyroid meds, had thyroid problems naturally, not from T3 use.

In addition to discussing T3 at length with dozens of lifters who have used it since the 90's, I've also read threads about T3 going back 10+ years and there's one common theme. When used reasonably, the thyroid recovers very well and quickly.

I recently ran T3 at 50 mcg on cycle. No tapering up or down. I used it 2 days on, 1 day off. I felt great and slept good as I was takin it in the morning before cardio. I felt fine on the off days too. I ran it for 6 weeks. I felt good when I came off too. No lethargy, rebound, fat gain, etc. I believe the 2 on, 1 off schedule keeps your thyroid from adapting as well.

Just my opinion and experience.
 
El Hefe said:
As you probably know, T3 isn't that popular here at EF. T3 can be good (if not great) if used safely/properly and it can be extremely dangerous if misused. But that's true for most AAS, AI's and Serms also. I think sometimes boards just feel its sometimes safer to simply say don't use it and be safe, rather than to explain how to do it safely.

For me personally, in my studies of T3 I found it to be safe and beneficial when used properly. I also believe that your more likely to encounter thyroid problems naturally than with moderate recreational T3 use. Your also more likely to wind up on TRT after cycling AAS than to need permanent thyroid therapy after moderate T3 use. Just look around, nearly everyone (seems like it) is on TRT. And those that take doctor prescribed thyroid meds, had thyroid problems naturally, not from T3 use.

In addition to discussing T3 at length with dozens of lifters who have used it since the 90's, I've also read threads about T3 going back 10+ years and there's one common theme. When used reasonably, the thyroid recovers very well and quickly.

I recently ran T3 at 50 mcg on cycle. No tapering up or down. I used it 2 days on, 1 day off. I felt great and slept good as I was takin it in the morning before cardio. I felt fine on the off days too. I ran it for 6 weeks. I felt good when I came off too. No lethargy, rebound, fat gain, etc. I believe the 2 on, 1 off schedule keeps your thyroid from adapting as well.

Just my opinion and experience.
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good post
 
El Hefe said:
As you probably know, T3 isn't that popular here at EF. T3 can be good (if not great) if used safely/properly and it can be extremely dangerous if misused. But that's true for most AAS, AI's and Serms also. I think sometimes boards just feel its sometimes safer to simply say don't use it and be safe, rather than to explain how to do it safely.

For me personally, in my studies of T3 I found it to be safe and beneficial when used properly. I also believe that your more likely to encounter thyroid problems naturally than with moderate recreational T3 use. Your also more likely to wind up on TRT after cycling AAS than to need permanent thyroid therapy after moderate T3 use. Just look around, nearly everyone (seems like it) is on TRT. And those that take doctor prescribed thyroid meds, had thyroid problems naturally, not from T3 use.

In addition to discussing T3 at length with dozens of lifters who have used it since the 90's, I've also read threads about T3 going back 10+ years and there's one common theme. When used reasonably, the thyroid recovers very well and quickly.

I recently ran T3 at 50 mcg on cycle. No tapering up or down. I used it 2 days on, 1 day off. I felt great and slept good as I was takin it in the morning before cardio. I felt fine on the off days too. I ran it for 6 weeks. I felt good when I came off too. No lethargy, rebound, fat gain, etc. I believe the 2 on, 1 off schedule keeps your thyroid from adapting as well.

Just my opinion and experience.
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This is all very true compared to my experience. It is a drug, and a hormone replacement drug. It should be taken as seriously as any other AAS. However, in all my studying on the topic, it seems the thyroid comes back strong without much issue. I read numerous studies where patients where mis diagnosed with a thyroid disorder and were on T3 for like 10+ years, then came off, and thyroid popped back to normal pretty quickly.

Bottom line is do your research and take this drug seriously (as with other AAS). This is not just some OTC fat burner for quick weight loss.

It does work great - I have had great results on several occasions. I never had any sides, and never have experiences muscle loss or strength loss while using. I have gone as high as 100 mcg per day.
 
El Hefe said:
As you probably know, T3 isn't that popular here at EF. T3 can be good (if not great) if used safely/properly and it can be extremely dangerous if misused. But that's true for most AAS, AI's and Serms also. I think sometimes boards just feel its sometimes safer to simply say don't use it and be safe, rather than to explain how to do it safely.

For me personally, in my studies of T3 I found it to be safe and beneficial when used properly. I also believe that your more likely to encounter thyroid problems naturally than with moderate recreational T3 use. Your also more likely to wind up on TRT after cycling AAS than to need permanent thyroid therapy after moderate T3 use. Just look around, nearly everyone (seems like it) is on TRT. And those that take doctor prescribed thyroid meds, had thyroid problems naturally, not from T3 use.

In addition to discussing T3 at length with dozens of lifters who have used it since the 90's, I've also read threads about T3 going back 10+ years and there's one common theme. When used reasonably, the thyroid recovers very well and quickly.

I recently ran T3 at 50 mcg on cycle. No tapering up or down. I used it 2 days on, 1 day off. I felt great and slept good as I was takin it in the morning before cardio. I felt fine on the off days too. I ran it for 6 weeks. I felt good when I came off too. No lethargy, rebound, fat gain, etc. I believe the 2 on, 1 off schedule keeps your thyroid from adapting as well.

Just my opinion and experience.
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You are welcome :)
 
ledhead said:
You are welcome :)
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LOL! Yes, many thanks to Led!

The man is a tremendous asset to this community! It's always worthwhile to look back at some of Led's older posts when studying. He has a wealth of knowledge and is not influenced by AAS board mythology.
 
El Hefe said:
LOL! Yes, many thanks to Led!

The man is a tremendous asset to this community! It's always worthwhile to look back at some of Led's older posts when studying. He has a wealth of knowledge and is not influenced by AAS board mythology.
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+1

I have learned a ton from the man, thank you sir Led
 
i love t3, i always had great results with it, i also ran it with clen 2wks on/2wks off... i did a lot of cardio with it and i was able to get my bf super low, all the super lean guys live on it cuz it works but there is a permanent risk involved with it. i recommend it just don't go over 100mg a day. and 6 wks max
 
im not saying anyone who uses t3 will fuck up their thyroid permanently. but I live with someone who constantly has to self adjust T3 and armour because of thyroid issues (not bb'ing related) its not fun when its required medically.

I know your not a noob bro so im not gonna get on your case about it. be careful. and for fuck sake dont use clen!
 
The thyroid is very resilient. There have been studies done with people on t3 for up to 20 years and they're thyroids bounced back within 2 months or so. I typically have only used t3 in low doses with tren, like 12.5mcg-25mcg. With that said I don't think t3 is something that should be used by beginners and there is of course a risk with everything you put in your body. I don't see the need for higher doses of T3. Its just catabolic and shouldn't accomplish anything you can't do with diet.
 
meathead96 said:
The thyroid is very resilient. There have been studies done with people on t3 for up to 20 years and they're thyroids bounced back within 2 months or so. I typically have only used t3 in low doses with tren, like 12.5mcg-25mcg. With that said I don't think t3 is something that should be used by beginners and there is of course a risk with everything you put in your body. I don't see the need for higher doses of T3. Its just catabolic and shouldn't accomplish anything you can't do with diet.
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I will be using T4 with my blast cruise blast pct next year. both blasts will involve tren. ace first, E last.
 
El Hefe said:
I recently ran T3 at 50 mcg on cycle. No tapering up or down. I used it 2 days on, 1 day off. I felt great and slept good as I was takin it in the morning before cardio. I felt fine on the off days too. I ran it for 6 weeks. I felt good when I came off too. No lethargy, rebound, fat gain, etc. I believe the 2 on, 1 off schedule keeps your thyroid from adapting as well.

Just my opinion and experience.
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forgot to ask what were your before and after results from that run?
 
stevesmi said:
forgot to ask what were your before and after results from that run?
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I decreased bf by about 2% while continuing to make steady gains. Nothing earth shattering, but muscle measurements have increased while the waistline measurements have decreased.

I wasn't using T3 as some do in the traditional cut (which I think is a waste of T3 and AAS). Rather, I was using it for muscle building qualities (increased protein syn, PTOR, etc). For this purpose, I think it's very effective. And of course the metabolism and waistline effects are a plus.

Per Led's advise, I ran 50 mcg, 2 days on, 1 day off. No tapering up or down. After 2 days, I adjusted and felt great (including sleep and rest). There was a nice, clean, increase in energy, focus and stamina.

2 on, 1 off wasn't the most common dosing of T3 so I was curious as to how I would feel on my off days. However, I felt fine, no lethargy. Led was right, dosing in such a way prevents your thyroid from adapting (to a certain degree).

I scheduled my light cardio on the T3 days. By the way, this fat boy only does 'light' cardio. And on top of that, I usually start the clock when I get out of my truck and start walking toward the hamster wheel. Transportation to and from counts right? But sometimes my schedule would change slightly to 2 days on, 1 day off, 3 days on, 1 day off, etc. due to my workout schedule/program.

I'm not sure if anyone does this next part, but it seemed logical and safe for me:

I ran T3 for the first 6 weeks of my 10 week AAS cycle. I wanted to still be on cycle to safeguard against any possible lethargy or rebound that might occur after the T3 run. Being on cycle would be enough to combat or offset any negatives. I still think this is a decent idea, but I'm not entirely sure it's necessary. I feel like my thyroid rebounded almost instantly.

Overall, I think most AAS cycles are harder on your body than T3 (ran as described above). I plan to run T3 in a similar fashion with each future cycle.
 
El Hefe said:
As you probably know, T3 isn't that popular here at EF. T3 can be good (if not great) if used safely/properly and it can be extremely dangerous if misused. But that's true for most AAS, AI's and Serms also. I think sometimes boards just feel its sometimes safer to simply say don't use it and be safe, rather than to explain how to do it safely.

For me personally, in my studies of T3 I found it to be safe and beneficial when used properly. I also believe that your more likely to encounter thyroid problems naturally than with moderate recreational T3 use. Your also more likely to wind up on TRT after cycling AAS than to need permanent thyroid therapy after moderate T3 use. Just look around, nearly everyone (seems like it) is on TRT. And those that take doctor prescribed thyroid meds, had thyroid problems naturally, not from T3 use.

In addition to discussing T3 at length with dozens of lifters who have used it since the 90's, I've also read threads about T3 going back 10+ years and there's one common theme. When used reasonably, the thyroid recovers very well and quickly.

I recently ran T3 at 50 mcg on cycle. No tapering up or down. I used it 2 days on, 1 day off. I felt great and slept good as I was takin it in the morning before cardio. I felt fine on the off days too. I ran it for 6 weeks. I felt good when I came off too. No lethargy, rebound, fat gain, etc. I believe the 2 on, 1 off schedule keeps your thyroid from adapting as well.

Just my opinion and experience.
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Do you prefer liquid or tabs?
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El Hefe said:
Maybe he'll join in and share some of his T3 experiences.
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your going to find inconsistancy in any ugl t3. my wife takes it medically. stupid ass doc wouldnt write a script till recently cause as we have discussed... most of them have no idea what the fuck they are doing. anyways I have gotten her liquid and tabs from two good sources...( Can't believe I forgot to try Ag) ... and all were different feeling at 25mcg. when she got her actual cytomel script and took 25mcg she was like holy fuck ... rocket fuel.
 
El Hefe said:
I'm sure there's good liquid T3. However, I feel a little more comfortable with the tabs. I feel like I can be a little more precise with the dosage.
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I tried a board sponsors liquid t3 for 3 weeks and was not the least bit impressed. Next go round will be tabs for sure.

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burnthiscorpse said:
your going to find inconsistancy in any ugl t3. my wife takes it medically. stupid ass doc wouldnt write a script till recently cause as we have discussed... most of them have no idea what the fuck they are doing. anyways I have gotten her liquid and tabs from two good sources...( Can't believe I forgot to try Ag) ... and all were different feeling at 25mcg. when she got her actual cytomel script and took 25mcg she was like holy fuck ... rocket fuel.
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That's interesting. I wonder what the actual potency was of the UG T3 that you had. For that matter, I'm curious about mine as well. I've looked for a lab to test gear but no luck. It would be nice to know exactly what we're putting in our bodies.

And your right about the 'stupid ass docs'. My daughter is having thyroid issues and the docs are absolutely worthless.

After one dumbass f#cked with her thyroid and switched her all over the f#cking place with meds, he finally decided he needed to send her on to another dumbass doc. I asked to see the blood results but that never happened.

I wasn't able to go with my daughter to the next appointment but I gave her a specific list of tests to be ran (thanks shirlene). I said, give this list to the doc. Tell them i want these tests run. Tell them I'll pay extra for them if they don't think they're necessary. I also said to have them call me if theres a problem or whatever. I was pretty explicit because they screw this up every time.

Anyways, when the tests came back, all they ran was TSH. I was so f#cking pissed. I called the doc and asked about the other tests that we specifically requested. They said, "Oh, I chose not to run them. They weren't necessary".

Needless to say, they're still clueless. I'm a mild mannered guy, but it took everything I had to not go down there and beat the dumbass out of them.

My wife is also going through the same sh1t with these knucklef#cks regarding her thyroid.

I'll stop rambling now. But after all, the thread is called 'Your T3 Experience'.
 
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