Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below I don't follow wrestling but I worked security for a recent event and these two monsters stuck out. Batista and Horseshoe...these guys are huge, ripped, vascular. Batista could have won the overall at the ironman in the shape he was in for this match. Absolutely disgusting to think of how hard it was for me to get as lean as he was and I only stayed there for a week. These guys do it all year. It has to be HGH. Anyone have any connections to these guys? Know any training secrets or the gear they use? How come there isn't much talk about the Arnold?
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Nighthawkk
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Yea Batista is a fucking monster. Just like Brock he probably uses anything he can get his hands on. I suspect heavy HGH use by many of the wrestlers today, just look at Benoit and Cena's head. Angle and Guerrero are probably both on obscene doses of test judging from the way they look compared to previous years. Keep in mind that this is their job, and they have the time and money to invest in doing that stuff to their heart's content.
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onebigab said:
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bastita wouldn't place in the top ten of a LOCAL show, let alone something like the Ironman.
Big traps and shoulders don't make a winner. His chest is shallow. His back has no thickness and it has that hideous tattoo on it. He has decent legs, way better than the Rocks and the Rock was known as having the best wheels in the sport.
The only wrestler(s) that I have seen that could have won any kind of local/state show was Luger from the late 80's before he became all stringy and lanky and Paul Roma. Jim Powers had BBing potential too.
Cena used to compete in BBing, but left. He had some AWESOME pics from his competitive days. Some internet sleuth should dig them up.
Big traps and shoulders don't make a winner. His chest is shallow. His back has no thickness and it has that hideous tattoo on it. He has decent legs, way better than the Rocks and the Rock was known as having the best wheels in the sport.
The only wrestler(s) that I have seen that could have won any kind of local/state show was Luger from the late 80's before he became all stringy and lanky and Paul Roma. Jim Powers had BBing potential too.
Cena used to compete in BBing, but left. He had some AWESOME pics from his competitive days. Some internet sleuth should dig them up.
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AAP said:
Batista is 6'5", 320lbs with low BF% and amazing vascularity. I don't care whether he would be a good bodybuilder or not, that is fucking impressive IMO.
strongsmartsexy
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Nighthawkk said:
Are those real stats or wrestling stats?
Hulk Hogan was like 18' tall and 40" arms for so long the metrics are all screwed up.
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strongsmartsexy said:
Who cares, Hogan is crap anyways
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strongsmartsexy said:
Batista, whos real name is David Bautista has been a pro wrestler for about 5 years, is 35 years old, 6'5, 275-280 pounds (depends on time of the year), makes about $175,000-$225,000/yr with bonus....Impressive in person and for a pro wrestler who travels a lot but nothing compared to any competing BB. When HHH was at his best (about 4 years ago) he was pretty impressive...Also, in the 80's, Rick Rude and Ultimate Warrior were also impressive. Vince McMahon is pretty impressive for being almost 60. Not to many other guys are that impressive now....
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Rick Rude was always jacked! Too bad he played a damn heel for so long.
Batista is uber-hot a God among men! 
strongsmartsexy
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daveyboy said:
He needs to be teaching mic skills. That man could work a mic almost as well as Dusty Rhodes.
avenirup
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hardrock said:
Ugly as sin, yes but the guy gets chicks, he is 25, make about $850,000 with bonus (rumored to be about $400,000)...only problem is he doesn't like the professional because of all the travel and lack of gym time even know he makes good $$$$. A lot of guys in the locker room are not fond of him either and this is all probably way to much info than you needed. I'll stop now...
strongsmartsexy
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avenirup said:
NONONONONONONO, don't stop! THis is good stuff maynard!
avenirup
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daveyboy said:
He has been around a long time...from something I previously posted...
The Nature Boy” Ric Flair stated wrestling in the mid 70’s under his real name Richard Flheir in Minnesota in the AWA. He then wrestled for several different territories one of them being what then was called Georgia Championship wrestling (one of the biggest). In 1976ish he was in a plane crash that broke his back and thought he would never walk again let alone wrestle…But a few years later he was back and everyone was amazed that a guy who broke his back could go out and do 60 minute matches 5 times a week. That is when he started getting respect from everyone in the biz and his interview skills made him a star. In the early 80’s he was making about $350,000, which then was unheard of, because he was literally wrestling 320 days per year and never home. Keep in mind he was married with a child. In the mid 80’s Jim Crockett bought WWF’s TBS contract (WWF was on TBS for a short time but was also on USA Network. TBS forced WWF to sell because they did not like them being on a competing station. When Vince signed over the contract to Jim Crockett for $1 million dollars, he actually told Jim C to his face that he (Jim C) would choke on that million and WWF would dominate…which actually was true…4 years later (1988) Jim C, nearly broke would sell the national NWA to Ted Turner who owned TBS and then officially changed the name to WCW in 1991) and started a national NWA wrestling co (NWA had been around since 1905 but was always broken up into smaller territories) and made Ric Flair the champ because of his work ethic, interview skills and drawing power. In the 80’s the two biggest drawers were Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair. Flair would be the second highest paid wrestler in the 80’s behind Hulk Hogan. Vince McMahon tried to get Flair several times but failed until 1991 when Flair was pissed at the forever changing WCW management. Flair went to WWF and was pretty successful. The put the world title on him, but business then was very slow and didn’t make a great deal of money. When his two-year deal ended he decided to go back to WCW (Bischoff just took over but he actually signed his contract when Bill Watts was running it) for about $475,000 per year. Within two years Hogan would start with WCW and business started to pick up…By 1995 he was making $1 million per year. In the late 90’s however he had a falling out with Eric Bischoff, who at that time could do not anything wrong in Ted Turner’s eyes and left the co for a short period of time…But was still getting paid because like all WCW contracts, his money was guaranteed. He returned, to be in front of a crowd (can be an addiction) wasn’t happy with Biscoff, but did it anyway. In 2001 when WWE bought WCW, Flair sat out and continued to get paid until in 2002 when his contract ran out he signed with WWE for $475,000 per year. That was supposed to be a limited talent contract where he would only have to take a few bumps here and there and mostly be on the mic as a manager or their “fake” president (or GM) .….Didn’t turn out that way, he is actually is wrestling more now than he was in his final WCW days and getting paid a lot less. A few weeks ago he was slightly injured and probably will not be in the ring that much longer (the guy is in his mid 50’s). WWE will still keep him around to be a teacher to the younger guys and also because he really is one of the few wrestlers that everyone respects because of his talent. His contract expires later this year. I will now electrocute myself….Thank you…
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avenirup said:
No don't do that! This is good info. I am up at night wondering these things. Now I know who can answer them for me.
avenirup
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strongsmartsexy said:
Brock got a big push so fast that a lot of people in the locker room ended up not liking him. Many felt he was being pushed when he was too green (not that much experience). Brock and Vince McMahon have a really good relationship which has resulted in major pushes and top spots on PPV cards. He has drawn so-so crowd but many also blame that on the current state of business. Brock is very vocal at weekly Smackdown meetings and sometimes rubs people the wrong way which in turn causes people (other wrestlers) not want to work with him and when they are forced, they don't sell as well as they could. Many blame his attitude on his age, others feel Vince and other management have made his ego too big by telling him how great he is. He will beat Goldberg at WM or there will be a screwjob finish (if Goldberg refuses to job) because as of right now, Goldberg's last match is at WrestleMania 20.
strongsmartsexy
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avenirup said:
How does he get along with "Kane"?
avenirup
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strongsmartsexy said:
I have never heard any issues between the two. They do not work together that much due to the brand extension seperation. Kane, real name is Glen Jacobs, and has wrestled as a ton of wrestling characters including Unabomb (1994-1995 on and off) Dr. Isaac Yankem (WWF 1996), The Fake Diesal (1997) and Kane, the masked version (1997-2003) and the unmasked Kane (2003-current). He is one of the highest paid WWE stars, with a salary rumored to be around $700,000 + bonus. He has been with the WWE for almost ten years and his contract expires next year. He is expected to resign.....
What the hell ever happened to Sid? I remember seeing him break his ankle while jumping off the top rope in a match ~ 5-6 yrs ago I think. I would imagine that probably put him out of wrestling for good. That was a nasty break.
Btw, if anybody remembers the War Lord, he was a pretty big bastard too. Probably close to the 300 lb mark as well.
Btw, if anybody remembers the War Lord, he was a pretty big bastard too. Probably close to the 300 lb mark as well.
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daveyboy said:
That was probably the worst televised wrestling injury ever....Sid is actual still active and made a return after that injury. He was contacted by the WWE about 1.5 years ago and they offered him an interview but he turned it down. Rumor has it he didn't want the crazy schedule WWE wrestlers have, which was one of the reasons he left in 1992...
Sid was notorious for enraging management by taking months off to go play softball with some league. He was not a popular person in any event.
One thing that stands out about him was he and Larry Zybsko (yeah.. that guy) used to work out together and believe it or not, Zybsko could match him lb for lb on the bench press. I would see them hitting 6-8 reps with 405. Shocking because Zybsko never had a good physique or indicated he possessed that kind of power. Zybsko was ugly as hell up close too. His face was horrible. Pocked marked and chunks missing. He was known to wear make up on his face when he wrestled and did commentary.
Not sure about the Warlord, but he supposingly did some kind of no-no and it got him blacklisted from television all together. He occassionally wrestles at the War Museum down here, but NEVER on television. Not sure why.
One thing that stands out about him was he and Larry Zybsko (yeah.. that guy) used to work out together and believe it or not, Zybsko could match him lb for lb on the bench press. I would see them hitting 6-8 reps with 405. Shocking because Zybsko never had a good physique or indicated he possessed that kind of power. Zybsko was ugly as hell up close too. His face was horrible. Pocked marked and chunks missing. He was known to wear make up on his face when he wrestled and did commentary.
Not sure about the Warlord, but he supposingly did some kind of no-no and it got him blacklisted from television all together. He occassionally wrestles at the War Museum down here, but NEVER on television. Not sure why.
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damn I remember the warlord, intimidating chap
decent physiques also belonged to; the natrual Butch Read (sp?), hercules was a big mofo, Ahmed Johnson was big, but fat, and of course Jake the Snake
decent physiques also belonged to; the natrual Butch Read (sp?), hercules was a big mofo, Ahmed Johnson was big, but fat, and of course Jake the Snake
strongsmartsexy
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avenirup said:
That man creeped me out. He always seemed to have that dead man look in his eyes.
strongsmartsexy
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Y_Lifter said:
I hope not. If you don't like the programming, change the channel.
Dear avenirup,
I don't know where you get all that wrestling world info but please tell me everything you know about Stephanie McMahon. All juicy, and juiced stuff. Thanks.
Waiting your response.
Your beloved fan
- Perk
PS. If there isn't anything juicy stuff to be told, then please make up something.
I don't know where you get all that wrestling world info but please tell me everything you know about Stephanie McMahon. All juicy, and juiced stuff. Thanks.
Waiting your response.
Your beloved fan
- Perk
PS. If there isn't anything juicy stuff to be told, then please make up something.
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perkele said:Dear avenirup,
I don't know where you get all that wrestling world info but please tell me everything you know about Stephanie McMahon. All juicy, and juiced stuff. Thanks.
Waiting your response.
Your beloved fan
- Perk
PS. If there isn't anything juicy stuff to be told, then please make up something.
I posted this a few days ago about Steph Steph....
Make up bro, make up......She is ok is real life. She is married to a big prick..HHH..and once did Bret Hart and from what I here was a super slut in college (nothing confirmed though)....I even think there are some pics hanging around on the net of her from her college days. Lets play six degrees of Vince McMahon....Vince McMahon did Sunny (Tammy Sytch, who is now drugged out and takes nude shots for money)...who was engaged at the time and now married to Chris Candido (Skip of Bodydonnas)...who slept with Steph McMahon...Steph slept with Bret Hart when she was a little "too" young, Bret Hart then slept with Sunny (which eventually Bret's wife found out about and dumped him, Chris Candido found out and did nothing.. ) who later slept (this is an actual fact) with Vince McMahon who cancelled Hart's 2 million dollar per year contract and let him sign with WCW not only because of his limited drawing power but rumor has it he found he was slamming his daughter a few years back....So actually Vince has slept with his own daughter...ewwww.... Was that six degrees, shit I don't even know how to play the damn game...whatever...I am going to go and take 2 bottles of Advil and chase it down with Vodka (as crak600 would say code for jerking off).....
Nice info. Hey, don't leave yet. Got any scoop on Trish, Stacy, Victoria, & the real hot one who used to supposedly be engaged to Billy Kidman? Can't think of her name but she was f#cking hot as hell. Don't see her on much anymore. You know who I'm talking about? How 'bout Dustin Rhodes wife/ex-wife too.
avenirup
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daveyboy said:Nice info. Got any scoop on Trish, Stacy, Victoria, & the real hot one who used to supposedly be engaged to Billy Kidman? Can't think of her name but she was f#cking hot as hell. Don't see her on much anymore. You know who I'm talking about? How 'bout Dustin Rhodes wife/ex-wife too.
Stacey is going out with Test, Brock Lesner is going out with Sable (who was married to Marc Mero a.k.a Johnnie B. Badd), Torrie Wilson is married to Billy Kidman (can you believe he gets that all the time
) Torrie is on the SmackDown brand shows and was in Playboy a few months ago. I have more stuff I will post later, go to get back to work.....
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avenirup said:Stacey is going out with Test, Brock Lesner is going out with Sable (who was married to Marc Mero a.k.a Johnnie B. Badd), Torrie Wilson is married to Billy Kidman (can you believe he gets that all the time
How do you know so much? Are you just a fan? Or, do you work in the business?
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avenirup said:Stacey is going out with Test, Brock Lesner is going out with Sable (who was married to Marc Mero a.k.a Johnnie B. Badd), Torrie Wilson is married to Billy Kidman (can you believe he gets that all the time
Wrestling sure is hell on marriages.
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Wrestling is stupid.
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Debaser said:
OMG! I bet next you're going to give us the revelation that it's FAKE too? OMG I think you should go back to watching intelligent television like Everybody loves Raymond, Dukes of Hazard and Hee Haw reruns!
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strongsmartsexy said:
As difficult as it is to fathom, there IS quality television out there--you just have to find it. Family Guy, for example.
Wrestling isn't stupid because it's fake (well, okay maybe that's ONE reason), it's stupid because it's stupid.
strongsmartsexy
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Debaser said:
I watch it along with my National Geographic Explorer, Smithsonian, HGTV, Emeril Lagasse and Alton Brown. Of course Two and a half men is damn funny too. Most of what you watch on TV is "fake", contrived, manipulated and generally skewed for the particular demographic. Even "reality" TV.
If you don't like watching wrestling don't watch it. I don't even care if you think it's stupid. It's entertaining and fun for a large audience of people in the US and has been for years.
avenirup
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gymrat said:
I know because I used to be very involved with the business (I am a writer). I am really not a fan of it either (I don't get the PPV's, maybe expect for WM, I don't go to events or even watch it on TV that much, I just have a lot of inside contacts). I write for a living and had to learn and learn and really learn about pro wrestling and its history to do so. I have a great memory and as I said in a previous post I have an S load of useless knowledge about the profession. Or at least I thought it was useless before I started posting at EF again....
strongsmartsexy
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gymrat said:
I do too! It allows me to get info I'd have to wade through weeks of bad posts on wrestling boards to find.
Not to mention the influx of new college kids in Sept, and Jan, with their notification to all the rest of us that "Wrestling is fake". You could always tell the kids who just got out of high school and got to post on a board.
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strongsmartsexy said:
So is Jerry Springer. Pretty much the same people in this "large audience" as well.
avenirup
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Debaser said:
I used to think the same way before I was educated on this subject. You would be surprised who watches pro wrestling, buys their PPV's, pays $850 for a front row ticket at a PPV, pays the multi-million dollars the WWE makes each year from their merchandise line. Most fans are not what the "stereo type" is thought to be. Many are the same fans that watch the NFL and other pro sports. WWE is truely a product that crosses all classes.
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avenirup said:
I agree...even one of my english professors watches WWE too, we go out drinking and talk about it sometimes, it's great
gymrat said:
Avenirup - I enjoy your posts as well. We all know this stuff is crazy & stupid but it's fun to watch nonetheless. I only watch it once a week so it's not like I'm glued to it everynite. The wife hates it though. Oh well. Me & my daughter send her upstairs now when it comes on. heheh
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Debaser said:
Sure it does. I watched part of it once, didn't care for it. I did something foreign to you. I CHANGED the channel and didn't bother watching it again. It's a choice I get to make. And, I didn't even have to go an harrang others for their viewing choices. Try it!
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strongsmartsexy said:
No.
How about you try understanding a person's equal right to their own opinion? You're entitled to say that you enjoy WWE, I'm entitled to openly unveil its stupidity. I'm also entitled to make fun of you for it. Whether or not you take it personally is up to you.
If I told everyone that I enjoyed the Power Puff girls, I'd expect to be harassed for it. This is no different, except at least with the Power Puff girls you aren't watching sweaty, oiled up, speedo-clad guys manhandle each other. Go for it. I can't stop you. And you can't stop me busting your balls for it.
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I thought Edge was supposed to make a comback at Royal Rumble last year? I'm not sure if you ever listened to Bubba the Love Sponge but he had all kinds of connections/friends that were wrestlers. Edge was on there saying that he didn't know what he was supposed to be doing but that he would be back in time for the Rumble. Heard any reason why?
Also do you think, Cena will get a push to the top anytime soon? He has tremendous public approval so I think he would make a great world champion, not just US champ
Also do you think, Cena will get a push to the top anytime soon? He has tremendous public approval so I think he would make a great world champion, not just US champ
strongsmartsexy
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Debaser said:
Well, you haven't unveiled any stupidity at all except your own. Coming in to what is obviously a wrestling post and putting in huge letters "wrestling is stupid" doesn't unveil anything. I'm not disagreeing with your dislike or opinions of it. This thread isn't about whether you like it or not. If you want a thread to discuss how stupid you think wrestling is, go start your own thread instead of barfing your nonsense here. And if you want to start one about powder puff girls do that as well.
And you can't stop me for busting your balls either. And I'm damn good at busting balls if I need to be.
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Delinquent said:
Edge may be back at WM or come back in April....very soon though. Last I heard he is coming back to the Raw brand with a big push....This may change now with Brock possibly leaving. We shall have to wait and see.
John Cena is due a big push and will most likely get pushed straight to the top (or almost the top) if Brock Lesner goes....He is very talented and well liked by management.
Hey, what about Papa Pump? He hasn't won nothing in awhile. Maybe now it's his turn. And where's he been anyway? Haven't seen him around much lately either.
And....why is Goldberg leaving again?? Hell, he just got back. It's like a revolving door with some of these guys sometimes.
And....why is Goldberg leaving again?? Hell, he just got back. It's like a revolving door with some of these guys sometimes.
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daveyboy said:
I think BPP needs to retire. I never liked him much.
Anyone watch that wrestlemania mania last night on UPN? That was a really cool look into WM and all that it represents. I didn't watch last years WM so I didn't know how bad Austin was hurting. That man has some balls. Then Angle was pretty much scared shitless about going against Brock b/c he so young, inexperienced and pretty much doesn't know his own strength. Brock said he was scared to even touch Kurt b/c of his neck.
They then showed Brocks fucked up move where he landed on his head. after he went back into the lockeroom, you can just tell he was fucked up. The blank stare he had was scary as hell.
It then showed when Angle went into shock shortly after the match and was rushed to the hospital where they operated on his neck and shit
It was some interested stuff
strongsmartsexy
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AAP said:
I hope Eddie keeps the belt. He makes a great heel, but a lousy face!
Goldturd needs a reality check. He's been boring since he's been a wrestler.
strongsmartsexy
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onebigab said:Wrestling is fakeDoes anybody else know about this.
Stick around the wrestling boards some time. Every September and every January, you get an influx of kids out of high school who get on and discover the wrestling boards and it's flooded with these "Wrestling is Fake" posts.
strongsmartsexy
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onebigab said:
"Fake" is a nisnomer though. Staged or scripted would be more like it.
avenirup
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onebigab said:Wrestling is fake
Actually not fake, more like predetermined. When someone gets slammed through a table onto the floor, it is real...when someone gets nailed in the head with a chair and you hear a loud thud, it is real....the guys do take it easy on one another as much as possible, but the actual contact they have is real...what is fake are the chick's tits in you anavar....
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avenirup said:
I know that doing some of those moves takes a huge amount of trust and practice. They can be life and career ending if not done properly. Fake is a nisnomer.
The tits on that chick are awesome. Who cares if they're fake? Like we're going to get close enough to them to where it matters.
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onebigab said:Oh but I have been.
Let me see, there is a phrase on the tip of my tongue...
what is it?
...
*scratching head*
Oh, yeah!
Bite me!
The garbage cans that they used are definitely weak as hell. Those are almost comical to watch when a guy gets hit with one of those. The folding chairs on the other hand seem different. I mean, how can you get hit square on the head & have it not bust you wide open? I would think there would be blood flying everywhere but dudes get nailed with them every week & I don't think I've ever seen one get cut from it.
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avenirup said:
Wow, you're delusional. You'd think someone who got a chair swung in their face by a 300 lb guy would have blood streaming out a gaping wound in their face and could have to be lifelined to a hospital before bleeding to death. Instead of something that remotely resembled a papercut.
And I guess strongsmartsexy still thinks I'm bewildered with the "OMG WRESTLING IS FAKE LOL!!!1" When if you recall my original post, you'll see that I simply maintain that wrestling is stupid.
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LOL. so truestrongsmartsexy said:
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Nighthawkk said:
yup, i know some very intelligent ppl who watch WWE- hey it is entertainment, it has it's place. it's light viewing.
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Debaser said:
Wow, you're an idiot. Again, you know nothing of what you are talking about. It would be like if you were an auto mechanic and me telling you how to fix an engine when I have no experience and have never been involved with the business.... You know nothing of the business, probably have never been in a ring...so please don't tell me how things work in wrestling. When a 300lbs guy swings a chair at another wrestlers head they do not swing it full force..they swing and hit enough to "sell" it. When a guy falls 20 feet from the top of a steel cage through a table (as Mick Foley did at the 98 King of the Ring), that is real--he had no string ties to him...When Jeff Hardy leap off a 15 foot latter through a table onto the floor--that is real. When an accident happens and Owen Hart falls 30 feet from the rafters onto the ring and dies--that is real. No, wrestlers do not try to kill the other, they sell for the people in the audience...Again as I said before they take it easy on one another. The chairs, tables and barbwire ARE ALL REAL. Having said that I am sure they do not go and look for the heaviest chair or reinforced table...but the chairs and tables are very real. The ring itself has very little give...it is basically some plywood (wood type may vary) and a very thin padding. When you hit the mat hard, it stings. Every bump these guys take is not like falling on a trampoline. Your original statement was that wrestling was stupid, which sometimes I do agree with you it is....I am not a gigantic fan of pro wrestling myself but your argument now I see is that it is indeed fake or the chairs are not real. It is not fake, the chairs are real, it is stupid some times (opinion) and you probably should not be commenting on something you have only watched or read about. But opinions are always welcome about the profession. And by the way that paper cut is actual a razor blade cut. When a wrestler needs to sell a injury they either have a small piece of razor blade in the tape on their hands or in their tights wrapped up...When they get hit by something or need to sell an injury, they take the blade and cut their forehead, usually just above the eye. This usually does not leave that much scaring (depending on how many times you do it--look at Dusty Rhodes' forehead-that is from years of blading) and cause a huge gush of blood, which is needed to sell. Wrestling is basically an illusion---the illusion is two guys hate (or sometime not) each other beat themselves almost to death sometimes to settle their grudge-it is all about taking you out of reality for the hour or two you watch it. That is all--and for those who don't like it--just change the channel...
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avenirup said:
or how abt botched moves- the risks are real. these guys are great stuntmen. there is always the element of risk while performing the kind of stunts that these guys do. as they keep saying on smackdown and raw-"yes this is entertainment but the hazards are real. please don't try this at home".
silver_shadow
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good points avenirup- if find ur posts very informative.
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Debaser said:
And I suppose that coming into an obvious wrestling thread where people who actually like wrestling and saying wrestling is stupid is a mensa move?
Like I said, you have an opinion and an asshole. They both stink like everyone elses. Start your own "Wrestling is stupid" thread.
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