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[digimon7068]

I know this question has been asked before and I know that it's not illegal to WU $$. However, I live in kind of a smallish town and there's only one WU outlet. I know the owners of the business personally and they have informed me that the local police stop in regularly and review all of the WU records, presumably looking for illicit transactions. Granted, they're probably looking for big $$ to places like Columbia but, the whole thing makes me a little nervous.

Thoughts??

 

[SgtSlaughter]

I know this question has been asked before and I know that it's not illegal to WU $$. However, I live in kind of a smallish town and there's only one WU outlet. I know the owners of the business personally and they have informed me that the local police stop in regularly and review all of the WU records, presumably looking for illicit transactions. Granted, they're probably looking for big $$ to places like Columbia but, the whole thing makes me a little nervous.

Thoughts??

nice... very glad you've brought this up because I haven't come to this question yet, still educating myself on other things before I make a purchase. I'm in the same boat as far as WU outlet locations... I hope some good bros can provide some quality feedback.

My thought would be for myself to make a 45 minute drive to the closest city.

 

[bigtravis]

I know this question has been asked before and I know that it's not illegal to WU $$. However, I live in kind of a smallish town and there's only one WU outlet. I know the owners of the business personally and they have informed me that the local police stop in regularly and review all of the WU records, presumably looking for illicit transactions. Granted, they're probably looking for big $$ to places like Columbia but, the whole thing makes me a little nervous.

Thoughts??

i think they're feeding you a line of shit bro. if western union does not know that, then i bet they'd like to.

 

[monster2929]

w/u has a privacy thing i think if they said that to you they think u might be up to something to see ur reaction i would go to another town bro if i were you that what happens when u live in mayberry

 

[wayneboard1]

i think they're feeding you a line of shit bro. if western union does not know that, then i bet they'd like to.

I would somewhat agree. I would call WU's main # (not the branch) and ask them about this or email their HQ. How to ask them I still have not figured out.....maybe ask them that you heard this and were concerned about privacy issues; that usually will get them to act since everyone is so sue happy about privacy these days.

 

[used2juice]

I STILL don't think sending a WU is the greatest idea of true anonymity is what you're after. But, when all is said and done, nothing will come back to haunt you. More than anything, I just don't trust a domestic guy who accepts WU's because they probably have to pick up a lot.

Now if you are sending to a foreign country, don't stress at all.

 

[rocksolid215]

I know this question has been asked before and I know that it's not illegal to WU $$. However, I live in kind of a smallish town and there's only one WU outlet. I know the owners of the business personally and they have informed me that the local police stop in regularly and review all of the WU records, presumably looking for illicit transactions. Granted, they're probably looking for big $$ to places like Columbia but, the whole thing makes me a little nervous.

Thoughts??

There has to be a privacy factor involved here.

Just remember that when you go to court your lawyer will find a loophole.

 

[fit2beking]

I know this question has been asked before and I know that it's not illegal to WU $$. However, I live in kind of a smallish town and there's only one WU outlet. I know the owners of the business personally and they have informed me that the local police stop in regularly and review all of the WU records, presumably looking for illicit transactions. Granted, they're probably looking for big $$ to places like Columbia but, the whole thing makes me a little nervous.

Thoughts??

Save yourself some headache and go to the nearest town and WU your money. If the police is doing that it may be illegal, but do you want to spend time and money fighting that? I would go to the nearest town just to keep down the BS.

 

[wirednutz]

Simple solution for anonymity sending payment:

1.Go to www.egold.com and open an account. Use any info except your real info. It will never be verified by the exchangers I am going to give you.

2. Go to www.webmoney.ee , www.bullionexchange.com, or www.icegold.com and do a WU > egold exchange. All these exchangers are in countries where the law is on OUR side! The exchanger will give you a 'drop' to send the WU. This is a person who picks up transfers for the exchanger. All 3 of the above exchangers OWN THE WU agency you send to! WU DOES NOT GIVE A RATS ASS ABOUT USA OR ANY OTHER COUNTRIE'S LAWS, they are a BUSINESS and make BILLIONS from fees. They could care less. The security they have in place now is a result from WU being raped by fraud for years and WU was used to wash money for years as well.

3. Now you have egold anonymously and can now make your payment via egold anon. If your source does not accept egold, find another source.

WU IS A BUST FOR DOMESTIC SOURCES...PERIOD!

 

[digimon7068]

w/u has a privacy thing i think if they said that to you they think u might be up to something to see ur reaction i would go to another town bro if i were you that what happens when u live in mayberry

Nah. It's a client of mine and the topic just sort of came up during a kind of benign discussion about things going on around town, etc., etc. It didn't happen as a result of any sort of inquiry by me. I believe the story. They really don't have any reason to make it up. . .the Mayberry thing is definitely true.

 

[digimon7068]

Simple solution for anonymity sending payment:

1.Go to www.egold.com and open an account. Use any info except your real info. It will never be verified by the exchangers I am going to give you.

2. Go to www.webmoney.ee , www.bullionexchange.com, or www.icegold.com and do a WU > egold exchange. All these exchangers are in countries where the law is on OUR side! The exchanger will give you a 'drop' to send the WU. This is a person who picks up transfers for the exchanger. All 3 of the above exchangers OWN THE WU agency you send to! WU DOES NOT GIVE A RATS ASS ABOUT USA OR ANY OTHER COUNTRIE'S LAWS, they are a BUSINESS and make BILLIONS from fees. They could care less. The security they have in place now is a result from WU being raped by fraud for years and WU was used to wash money for years as well.

3. Now you have egold anonymously and can now make your payment via egold anon. If your source does not accept egold, find another source.

WU IS A BUST FOR DOMESTIC SOURCES...PERIOD!

Interesting. I know that this is probably going to sound REALLY stupid so go ahead and flame me if you must but, what if a reputable foreign source with a domestic shipping point is willing to use PayPal?? I use PayPal all the time for stuff on ebay. How's anyone to know what the heck I'm using it for??

 

[used2juice]

Interesting. I know that this is probably going to sound REALLY stupid so go ahead and flame me if you must but, what if a reputable foreign source with a domestic shipping point is willing to use PayPal?? I use PayPal all the time for stuff on ebay. How's anyone to know what the heck I'm using it for??

As long as you are using paypal to a country where steroids are legal, I don't see any kinda issue. now IF law enforcement really wanted you for some reason, they could do the legwork, check your bank account and see where the money went, etc. But chances are they couldn't PROVE anything. Nonetheless, I think someone else made a post about this a while back...

If there was a message board about cocaine and people were openly discussing how to purchase it online and get it sent you...and YOU were one of those people, wouldn't you want to be as anonymous as possible? While steroids aren't the same schedule as coke, they are nonetheless illegal. And safety for you AND our source should be THE primary concern. WiredNutz is correct, egold is the best way to stay completely anonymous, because the gov't can't get into your egold account since it isn't a US business with no US subsidiaries.

 

[digimon7068]

As long as you are using paypal to a country where steroids are legal, I don't see any kinda issue. now IF law enforcement really wanted you for some reason, they could do the legwork, check your bank account and see where the money went, etc. But chances are they couldn't PROVE anything. Nonetheless, I think someone else made a post about this a while back...

If there was a message board about cocaine and people were openly discussing how to purchase it online and get it sent you...and YOU were one of those people, wouldn't you want to be as anonymous as possible? While steroids aren't the same schedule as coke, they are nonetheless illegal. And safety for you AND our source should be THE primary concern. WiredNutz is correct, egold is the best way to stay completely anonymous, because the gov't can't get into your egold account since it isn't a US business with no US subsidiaries.

Good advice.

 

[1392477]

This is 2005 and the era of the USA Patriot Act - don't expect privacy in anything you do. Western Union is a division of First Data Corporation and they indeed share information with the Feds about money being transferred. Common sense will tell you what countries are flagged the most - Saudi Arabia, Syria, Palestine, etc.

Illegal immigrants also use WU like crazy to send money back to Mexico or other central american countries so their families can pay coyotes to bring them here as well. The government can't possibly trace all transactions - my advice is to keep them small (under $1000).

The WU fees are a bitch but that's the price for using a buffer to do business. Sources need to keep themselves protected as well or they will not be sources for much longer. It would be great for domestic sources to accept PayPal but I don't think they will bother changing what is already working for them

 

[digimon7068]

I would somewhat agree. I would call WU's main # (not the branch) and ask them about this or email their HQ. How to ask them I still have not figured out.....maybe ask them that you heard this and were concerned about privacy issues; that usually will get them to act since everyone is so sue happy about privacy these days.

Nah. I don't really want to start a shit storm. I just thought that it was interesting information. . .the kind that should be shared.

 

[puddlemonkey]

WU is a waste of money anyway. Cash in the mail works fine if you've got a little trust with your source.

 

[used2juice]

WU is a waste of money anyway. Cash in the mail works fine if you've got a little trust with your source.

Yeah....but do you trust your local postal employess?

I like cash in the mail too, just be smart about how you send it and be sure you trust who you're sending it to. Then again, if you are asking what method of sending funds is best, chances are you aren't gonna be given the option to send cash to your source

 

[puddlemonkey]

Yeah....but do you trust your local postal employees?

Absolutely, I worked for the post office for 9 years. There are very safe ways to send cash through the mail and avoid the WU raping.

 

[wirednutz]

WU is a waste of money anyway. Cash in the mail works fine if you've got a little trust with your source.

Its actually THE SOURCE that must trust the client to give out his real location.

 

[wirednutz]

And safety for you AND our source should be THE primary concern.

Bottom line right there folks.

because the gov't can't get into your egold account since it isn't a US business with no US subsidiaries.

If the truth be known, the US gov't does exactly whatever they feel like doing as long as it ends with an indictment. The good thing about egold is NO INFO IS VERIFIED and I could care less if the gov't does get into my account because as long as I access the account via proxy or vpn I am invisible!

Long story short, get an egold account today

 

[Mr.X]

you have a car:

drive 2 hrs to the next town, do the WU and be done w/ it

park 15 min away from location if you're paranoid

X

 

[bigtravis]

you have a car:

drive 2 hrs to the next town, do the WU and be done w/ it

park 15 min away from location if you're paranoid

X

lol. i can't tell if you were being sarcastic or serious. that's definately over the top. i'd like to know if someone would actually go to that extreem.

 

[wirednutz]

lol. i can't tell if you were being sarcastic or serious. that's definately over the top. i'd like to know if someone would actually go to that extreem.

Damn right someone would. ME.

Freedom is something many of the members here are taking for granted. I used to be in a business where we were technically breaking the law but it was not on top of the fed's hit list. It was called a gray market business due to its legality vs. actual arrests even for the big dealers. Then one day, THAT ALL CHANGED IN AN INSTANT! And they didnt just take down the big dealers, they knocked doors of petty END USERS. Hell, O.J. Simpson was in court last week as an indirect result of this sudden sweep that forever changed my life. It can and will happen in this market also, I can guarantee it. Google Operation Decrypt for info. on this 'sudden sweep' which continues to this day.

Staying anonymouse throughout the entire process of committing crimes online should be everyone's prime concern...not "How does this cycle look?"

 

[digimon7068]

you have a car:

drive 2 hrs to the next town, do the WU and be done w/ it

park 15 min away from location if you're paranoid

X

I'm not paranoid. I just became aware of something that is absolutely contrary to everything that I've read here about WU and privacy and I thought that it was only right to share that information with the folks that have shared so much information with me.

Also, there's no way in hell that I would use WU at a client's place of business. That would be stupid. . .period.