would you use out-dated gear...???

[fisty]

so what would you do with water base products, would you still use HGH? even if it was all discolored? or with winny would you shoot it still or drink it? even after the water has become a dark milky brown and you can no longer get separation within the jar? or better yet would you still swallow it? I know for oils and pills all should be well for years after, but the water base compounds I'm still on the fence with.

what are your thoughts?

 

[RADAR]

Water Based Products are another Issue, I do not trust them ,Like AG guys Liquids, I have some clen 2 yrs old and it has lost it's potency.

RADAR

 

[NomDeGuerre]

Personally I think oilbased gear is good for years and years after expiry date as long as it is stored properly.

More iffy about orals and water based, but for me it is a non-issue since I hardly ever have anything lying around inbetween cycles..

 

[MrJuicy]

used outdated vet (bladder) gear, 5 years out of date, couldnt bear to throw it away, got results but injection site was f**king sore for 2 weeks
equivalent to RWR suspension, worst course (for pain) I ever did but wtf I still grew!

 

[Triple-G]

Egyptian Primoteston Enanthate, good 'til 2003, but does work like gear fresh out of the factory. I have a huge stash of old gear since i bought a boatload of it dirt cheap in 2000, i guess it will run 'til 2015 or so, no problems at all. what could happen with an oil inside a glass ampoule anyway? sometimes i use fresh stuff vom Belgrade, ICN Galenika, I don't feel and see any difference.
Only with homebrew stuff I got zilch results after years of storing them in my office. I guess it is because homebrew does not use preservatives like human grade gear has.

 

[scottbe]

my buddy has 6 bottles of syntax anadrol(2902,s)from the early ninties and just did a cycle with them and blew up!he said they are still as good as they were back then.....

 

[taiyed]

Has everyone here been discussing AAS only so far?

A friend has some GH that is not constituted and has been refrigerated for over a year now.. (maybe 9-10 months over usage date) -- is it likely to still be OK?

 

[markmark]

I'm on expired test right now. Same as when I first got it. Its been kept in a refrigerator so that may make the difference.

 

[needtogetarmy]

Stored properly it will last for years, i'm using some now 7 yrs old and getting great results!
The Exp date is a guarantee that the product is good up until then, Gov guidelines!

RADAR

GOod advice.

I supplemented my HRT with homebrew from powders that was 4-5 years old and it is still good and I get my shit tested.

 

[kx250rider]

Here's my rule, and it applies to gear, as well as food, Rx pills, and even the amount of time between oil changes in the vehicles....

In the USA, food and drug mfrs are subject to lawsuits for ANYTHING. So they make their expiry dates early, and overstate all warnings and dangers. Use common sense: Rule #1 is store whatever it is properly! Don't keep it where there are radical temperature changes, or where it might freeze (unless it's supposed to be frozen of course). I keep mine near the floor, in a safe, where there isn't any light and there's the least change of temps in the building. If a vial has a mfg date of Jan 2010, and it expires Jan 2013, I'd use it in August of 2013, and maybe still in Jan of 2014. If it's mfd Jan of 2010 and expires June 2010, I'd probably not use it much beyond September 2010. And not if there's something weird like a color change, or pressure inside, or particles, etc etc. So maybe I'll happily use something that's 25-30% beyond the expiry date, as long as I have owned it since new and know how it was treated. On the other hand, it also depends on what happens to the substance when it DOES actually break down or fail; if it just peters out, and becomes inert or useless, no problem. If it turns poisonous, then obviously I take that into consideration when fudging the expiry date. A quick Google search should reveal what happens to any particular substance when it breaks down. Same logic with car oil changes, if the mfr says every 5k miles, I'll go 8K miles if the car is garaged, and driven at a constant highway speed most of the time, on long highway commutes. If it's a short-trip farm-to-town runner stored outside where it goes from 30 at night to 80 in the daytime, I'll probably change oil at 2K miles.

Common sense will usually keep you in good shape here.

Charles