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Would It Be Ok To Have A All White Beauty Pagent?

Sebass67 said:
This is nothing about you...
What i meant is that all the same people that will tell people not to have white beauty pageants should stop patronizing the people...not u...that came out wrong.

No worries. :)
 
buksoon said:



3. What I just quoted from you, very typical attitude. "All bolshit, just sit there and feel sorry for themselves..." You know them all? Whatever, though. This thread is NOT about welfare. It's about how some people have it different based on race, gender, sexual orientation. That's what this thread is about.

Of course i know that is what the thread is all about. I don't know all of them. And if you agree that special rights do deibilitate the people than why should they be there if they are NOT helping them? They are supposed to correct these special wrongs not prolong them hence the people at the top are laughing.
 
I do agree that these same programs created to help end up further crippling the supposed benficiaries. That's a problem with the implementing of the programs. But I still think some have to exist--just smartly.

And if they don't exist, that's fine too. (Well, I don't know about "fine", just not something I can debate at this hour!!). What I was getting at in this thread was more about attitudes than actual policy. :)

(Besides, apropos of nothing, you live in Vancouver!!! As someone who lived near Seattle way too briefly, I can say with assurance that you should be out enjoying the STUNNING BEAUTY around you. The Pacific Northwest is outrageous. Okay, back to topic.)
 
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buksoon said:


We do??? I just read this morning that 95% of prison inmates in NYC are black or Latino. Must just be a violent race--genetically. No social factors at work.


Or maybe people should just take responsibility for their fucking actions. More blacks are in jail, "it's the system's fault". More blacks are in poverty, "its The Man's fault".
No, its your fault you fucking dimwit. Liberals have thue nation believing every problem is someone elses fault, and that no one is responsible for their actions. A man breaks into another mans house and gets shot, the burgular sues and fucking wins. Or he dies and the family sues for wrongful death of the burgular and wins. A stupid bitch spills hot coffee on herself, and sues cause the coffe was hot and burned her. Of course it's fucking hoT!! Its coffee!!! Had you not spilled it on yourself, you wouldnt have a problem. These friggin kids go shooting up schools, and it's societies fault, it's the kids in schools fault who picked on them, it is the parents fault for not catching on to the fact that the kid was a sick bastard. NO!! The problem was the kid was a sick bastard. Or the parents raised them like shit (most cases this is not so.)

Does anyone see my point?? Stop blaming your fucking problems on others and deal with them. God damn liberal shit way of thinking has created so many damn problems, and people continue to see this flaw. Damn it this type of shit gets me worked up.

WHITE MAN, BLACK MAN, WHATEVER! JUST BE A MAN!! TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS!!
 
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buksoon said:


"Failed"? I dunno know about that.

As far as 140 years, James Byrd was dragged to his death by a bunch of good ol' boys not even 4 years ago. For ONE example (a horrid one, and therefore publicized).

Yep, just a bunch of good ol' boys in their early twenties who stopped thinking for a while. .

But blacks never kill whites, do they Fuksoon?
Damn you are ignorant.
Here is a classic example for you: Reginal Denny (sp?)
He was pulled out of his truck cause he was white and beaten sensless. I didnt see whites protesting and rioting over this. Why not?
What planet do you live on for Christ's sake. How is it possible to have such a distorted view of reality as you have? The planet you reside on must have an atmosphere composed of 1/3 ether, 1/3 nitrous oxide, and 1/3 crack smoke. You probably contribute the crack smoke.
 
curling said:
Listen, I am not racist but I am going to stand up for the race I am. Racism has definetely happened in the past but I think it has gotten alot better. But when other races can start to have shows that feature them only I think they are being racist against our race.

I mean they have black TV. Can we have white TV? I mean I don't get how this happens? It is not right. They have a black beauty pagent with no white people. What would happen if we had a white beauty pagent with no black people.

I think if racism is to ever stop, it should stop on both fronts.

Thoughts?

It is simply amazing how ignorant people are nowadays, and it's the year 2001. Wake up, dumbass...There were Miss America pageants in the 1920's. The first black contestant didn't compete until 1970. That's 50 years of a white beauty pageant with no black people. You write, "Can we have white TV?" What the hell are you watching? They basically are ALL white EXCEPT for BET. How many blacks were on MTV when it first started? There weren't a hell of a lot. (I can't remember any for the first few years.) Just for fun, get a remote control, and starting at channel 2 go up and count how many channels it takes before you see someone that is non white. Do it a few times....you may be surprised..
Jeez...get a little education. It helps.
 
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Re: Re: Would It Be Ok To Have A All White Beauty Pagent?

vatech15 said:


It is simply amazing how ignorant people are nowadays, and it's the year 2001. Wake up, dumbass...There were Miss America pageants in the 1920's. The first black contestant didn't compete until 1970. That's 50 years of a white beauty pageant with no black people. You write, "Can we have white TV?" What the hell are you watching? They basically are ALL white EXCEPT for BET. How many blacks were on MTV when it first started? There weren't a hell of a lot. (I can't remember any for the first few years.) Just for fun, get a remote control, and starting at channel 2 go up and count how many channels it takes before you see someone that is non white. Do it a few times....you may be surprised..
Jeez...get a little education. It helps.

Vatech15,

Why don't you pucker up bend over and kiss my white ass. This is not what this post is about. You have your head so far up your ass it's not even stinky anymore?

This post is about the black population calling their pagents "Black" or "afro American" excluding other races and not thinking nothing of it. What I was saying if whites did the same thing, the blacks would be all over it saying it was racist.

Tell you what just answer me this. If we had a white pagent or a white college fund, what would the NAACP do? And be honest. Because if you are you know what they would do, they bitch and whine like they always do. With their babbling idiot Jesse Jackson leading the way.
 
Re: Re: Re: Would It Be Ok To Have A All White Beauty Pagent?

curling said:


Vatech15,

Why don't you pucker up bend over and kiss my white ass. This is not what this post is about. You have your head so far up your ass it's not even stinky anymore?

This post is about the black population calling their pagents "Black" or "afro American" excluding other races and not thinking nothing of it. What I was saying if whites did the same thing, the blacks would be all over it saying it was racist.

Tell you what just answer me this. If we had a white pagent or a white college fund, what would the NAACP do? And be honest. Because if you are you know what they would do, they bitch and whine like they always do. With their babbling idiot Jesse Jackson leading the way.

vatech15 is absolutely correct, and ON TOPIC. The whole point of having black pageants in the first place is because whites have a different view of beauty than blacks, and therefore, blacks would never, in the past, win a white pageant. Women, as late as the 70's, were judged on their beauty and capacity in the home for the most part, so being a beautiful woman opens doors that wouldn't have been opened in the first place.

The black beauty pageant began as a way to offer black women OPPORTUNITY that they wouldn't normally have.

Remember Vanessa Williams? She is mixed, like me, and that is why she was the first black Miss America or whatever.

Her beauty falls along the lines of a dark white person. Black beauty will never be understood by whites....flame away...talk Whoopi Goldberg or whatever...but there are some incredibly beautiful black women in the world who, back then, would never be recognized.

Things HAVE changed. Entertainment, hip hop and whatnot, has made blackness 'mainstream'.

Remember pop music before hip hop? Do you think that's why Michael Jackson changed his face and color?

There needs to be change...blacks suffer from inertia just like any other group. We may no longer need black pageants, BUT WE DID BEFORE.

They are still here for a variety of reasons, mostly capitalistic.

White pageants are nothing more than a celebration of female beauty and 'talent' from a white perspective. How can someone say black pageants were never needed?

musclebrains mentioned the politicization of homosexuality...have any of you considered that claiming your blackness is yet another way to leverage a population politically?

This leverage can be both positive and negative. Smart politicians put down the Sharpton's and the Jesse's because that's how you de-legitimize a political group...by de-legitimizing their leader. And you ruin the power of an entire group.

Blacks definitely need another strategy. Whites have figured out how to maneuver around black political strength. And black pageants were just one part of the whole game of mobilizing a group to gain political power....black pride, is the game.

Now please....move on. This stuff is so obviously inflammatory...white pageants...gimme a break.

Learn your history!
 
Re: Re: Would It Be Ok To Have A All White Beauty Pagent?

vatech15 said:


It is simply amazing how ignorant people are nowadays, and it's the year 2001. Wake up, dumbass...There were Miss America pageants in the 1920's. The first black contestant didn't compete until 1970. That's 50 years of a white beauty pageant with no black people. You write, "Can we have white TV?" What the hell are you watching? They basically are ALL white EXCEPT for BET. How many blacks were on MTV when it first started? There weren't a hell of a lot. (I can't remember any for the first few years.) Just for fun, get a remote control, and starting at channel 2 go up and count how many channels it takes before you see someone that is non white. Do it a few times....you may be surprised..
Jeez...get a little education. It helps.



Ita simly mazin hows ignrnt ma-fukas is nadayz,

and it's the year 2001. Wake up, dumbass...There were Miss America pageants in the 1920's. The first black contestant didn't compete until 1970.
(oh.. ok, lets sit back and let them catch up) That's 50 years of a white beauty pageant with no black people. You write, "Can we have white TV?" What the hell are you watching? They basically are ALL white EXCEPT for BET.
(Martin, Fat Albert, Jamie Fox, Sanford and Son, The Cosby Show and hundreds of BLACK shows starting in the early 70's) How many blacks were on MTV when it first started?(Run-DMC, KRS-1, Public Enemy, Herbie Hancock, Kool Moe Dee, DJ Jazzy Jeff, Whitney Houston, Ziggy Marley.. you want more?) There weren't a hell of a lot. (I can't remember any for the first few years.) Just for fun, get a remote control, and starting at channel 2 go up and count how many channels it takes before you see someone that is non white. (A Black newscaster talking about Basketball on channel 2)
Do it a few times....you may be surprised..
Jeez...get a little education. (and a job) It helps.

Hmmmmm dis mafuka is a rasist.. maahhhfucka all talkin all dis shit bout da mahhhfuckin Cosby Show.. sheeaaatt I's be up in dere fuckin his momma... Yo man gimme a nickel so I can get me a honeybun.
 
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buksoon said:
I hope you weren't talking to me! If I see ignorance, I'm gonna speak up. (Dumb on my part, I know.) Like, if someone is saying "the Holocaust never existed--big hoax", I'm gonna say something. You might not get anywhere by speaking up, but you still should.


The question is: Are you talkin' to me? j/k

I was just being sarcastic. I was also going to point out how segregatory (is that a word?) the Chinese New Year was. For the record I'm not hung up on race, live and let live. If people want to have events or functions based on race, then I don't want any part of it.

If everyone just started fucking each other and making mixed babies, then we wouldn't have this problem. So start fucking.
 
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