worthless?

[mphowells]

Thanks...I take it just clomid will be ok for a PCT and dropping down the dosage each week?

 

[SwolK]

as mentioned earlier, Simple, low sides with proper procautions, cheap
500mg test eth or cyp for 8-10 weeks
and PCT
thats what im about to do for my second cycle

 

[mphowells]

as mentioned earlier, Simple, low sides with proper procautions, cheap
500mg test eth or cyp for 8-10 weeks
and PCT
thats what im about to do for my second cycle

I'm just really worried about sides, particularly acne and know that eq is good with those sort of things.

 

[SwolK]

bro, have nolv on hand for water retention and gyno, and clomid,post cycle afteward will fix you right up. everyone responds differently, do you already have bad acne or in the past? that could be a factor

 

[Judo Tom]

reasons why MY first cycle will only be eq:

1) i don't want to get HUGE
2) i want to perform athletic performance
3) i don't want to grow a set of tits
4) i want gains that i can keep
5) i want to a good feel for running a cycle with a (relatively) mild steroid

test can let you accomplish your goals.. the only thing i like eq for is that it helps endurance a bit and helps hunger (i have a hard time eating frequetnly throughout the day)

 

[wutangnomo]

I'm just really worried about sides, particularly acne and know that eq is good with those sort of things.

I understand where you're coming from. I, too, am seriously looking into starting my first cycle very soon as well. My main concern, hell my only concern, is acne. I've had bad acne in the past and that is why I am very reluctant to take test.

Did you have bad acne in the past? Are you acne prone? I answer yes and yes to both questions, which is why I'm also thinking about staying away from test and using EQ.

 

[mphowells]

bro, have nolv on hand for water retention and gyno, and clomid,post cycle afteward will fix you right up. everyone responds differently, do you already have bad acne or in the past? that could be a factor

Used to have it really bad, had a little now, which is one of the reasons I wont be doing it soon (that and the fact that I want to research more)

wutangnomo, if you have it bad now, I'm sure no matter what AS you do, it will get worse.

 

[JAYMAN014]

Well we all no where I stand on this subject. I think EQ is a great idea for a first cycle, No sides and who cares how long it takes to see results do you not go the gym everyday anyway trying to grow, does it make you feel better to just blow up, like the newbie said clean keepable gains from EQ. Some of these guys are not looking to grow huge just get an edge on what they have been experiencing. NNP,ANAVAR,EQ,DECA and don't forget provirion if there is a wife around!!. Save the test for winter so if you break out like a freak you can have a shirt on and not ruin your summer!!!!

 

[mphowells]

Well we all no where I stand on this subject. I think EQ is a great idea for a first cycle, No sides and who cares how long it takes to see results do you not go the gym everyday anyway trying to grow, does it make you feel better to just blow up, like the newbie said clean keepable gains from EQ. Some of these guys are not looking to grow huge just get an edge on what they have been experiencing. NNP,ANAVAR,EQ,DECA and don't forget provirion if there is a wife around!!. Save the test for winter so if you break out like a freak you can have a shirt on and not ruin your summer!!!!

Thanx, didn't think about provirion with an eq only cycle.

 

[novo]

my first cycle was 1-8 deca200mg ew, i gained 15lbs and kept 10, with 9%bf.

A friend did the same but with EQ 400mg and he gained 12lbs and kept around 10 also, i just looked more bloated until PCT.
it mostly depends on your diet and your training. IMO

I think its an excelent 1st cycle