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It depends on your genetics... Some people lift hard as fuck and only put on about 5 lbs, while others seem to just hang out in the wieght room and put on like 20 lbs a year.
 
JuiceMonster#1 said:
It depends on your genetics... Some people lift hard as fuck and only put on about 5 lbs, while others seem to just hang out in the wieght room and put on like 20 lbs a year.

Believe it or not, this is the truth. Its all about your Genetics.
 
I think like powerforward. First year, you obtain maximum gains been 15 lbs average. Your body have a very new estimulus and reaction to that growing. Following years when your body became "adaptaded" to same estimulus gains are slow, been 8 lbs an average gain. By that, one start thinking in use AAS to accelerate grow process
 
Beyond genetics, it's age.

If you start when you're 16 you can put on 15 pounds a year for 10 years. If the same person starts at 30 he'll probably put on 5-6 pounds for a year or two before peaking, depending on how well versed in training he is.

This proves that body is meant to only grow so much -- which is why 20 pounds gains from a cycle is a fool paradise. You can't hold on to that much muscle. But it is possible to gain 5 pounds in a few weeks with the 3 week cycle. Even though that's a good years worth of muscle growth, people scoff at it. They'd rather gain 20 and lose it -- or kid themselves into thinking they're holding on to it by "bridging."
 
From my experience, after my 3 month supplementation, I stopped working out and lots of the mass went with it. I do still have more muscle than I started with. It is possible that even with continuing my workout, I would've lost this mass. I don't know. But what I do know is that as a beginner, if you consume lots of protein, carbs, the right supplements and crap, then you can definitely transform your body. I have also learned (from my on and off workout routines) that after you reach a certain point, gains become more difficult. And thus, I agree with those that say lower amounts of muscle are gained after a certain point when compared to the amount gained when you begin.

What I've also learned is that my goals have changed. For me, it is just too damn hard to eat all of the shit that goes with keeping a lot of mass on, even for someone that weighs as little as I do. Some are ok with eating a lot, but I feel all bloated and shit. It's not a good feeling when you're vomiting from having eaten so much. Plus all of this food and shit can get expensive! And so, I'm now going for the leaner look instead of the massive look. I wanna look halfway decent when I'm older instead of having skin hanging off of me and having to explain, "well dearie, all of this loose skin is from when I use to be huge, but now I'm some skinny ass old man with lots of skin hanging everywhere".

I don't know how in the hell I got on "JustyXXXX's Future Goal" in a forum about "without steroids", but I'm gonna keep the shit that I've written anyway . . . . :)
 
There is a kid in that I have known for 6-7 years.He was a rail ,went to youth prison and came back a monster. He says
his success was from cup o noodles anp top ramen. Because
he could eat that when he wanted. So im not so sure diet
is as important as genetics
 
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