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LiquidPhire

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I am wondering what the +/-'s to each of these and why you'd choose one over the other when stacked with test prop @ 100mg EOD for 6 weeks. Winstrol is clearly cheaper but a bit harsher on the hairline/joints can anyone discuss why one over the other for cutting purposes?


Diet and Cardio+Training are spot on.

Discuss
 
If you can afford it, id go with anavar for 10-12 weeks. anavar isnt as toxic as winstrol. Winstrol makes my joints dry after a while and thats when i drop it, cuz it makes my knees feel shitty when im doing cardio. Winstrol is alot cheaper then anavar, but anavar has a fat burning effect that winstrol doesnt have. But i do notice that winstrol makes you "harder" then anavar. when i used winstrol with test, my muscles were rock hard. i ran that at 75mg ed for 6 weeks.
 
I can afford it, but I will only be running it for 6 weeks before moving. Is 50mg a day for anavar going to be noticable? 6 weeks? I thought winstrol had fat burning property's as well?
 
I'm about to start 40mg ed for about 6-7 weeks. A friend of mine took Var only 40mg ed for 8 weeks and got great results. He only gained a few pounds but looked much better.
 
Ok, so the var will take a bit longer then anticipated and will probably just go with UGL Var or Winny - my question is do/would some labs just package winny in caps and says its var but charge more? I am thinking of just going with winny to be on the safe side ($ wise)
 
LiquidPhire said:
Ok, so the var will take a bit longer then anticipated and will probably just go with UGL Var or Winny - my question is do/would some labs just package winny in caps and says its var but charge more? I am thinking of just going with winny to be on the safe side ($ wise)
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I think you would like either one with a good diet and intense workouts. Since you said $ is no big deal I would go with Var if it's quality stuff.
Winny is good too though.
 
you will not be gaining much weight with var...you will gain strength however with minimal sides, since it is a mild oral and not very liver toxic. I would rather take var over winstrol because of winstrol's effect on the joints...

Also, if you have the money for it, yeh go with var...
 
Alc Due to current situation I have to rely on UGL's Winny/Var and the price is var's price is so similar to pharm grade I think id be better off just going with winstrol considering its 1/2 the cost and ugl. Agree??
 
LiquidPhire said:
I am wondering what the +/-'s to each of these and why you'd choose one over the other when stacked with test prop @ 100mg EOD for 6 weeks. Winstrol is clearly cheaper but a bit harsher on the hairline/joints can anyone discuss why one over the other for cutting purposes?


Diet and Cardio+Training are spot on.

Discuss
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Well you got a better chance of getting good winny then you do var. winny binds to the ar's much stronger then var.
 
I was very happy with the results I got with Var...

So much so that I don't think I would ever try winny...Not saying it's bad (can't cuz I've never run it) but if it ain't broken don't try ot fix it...

IMO, Var is well worth the price...

50 mg's a day for 5-6 weeks is ideal, IMO. I'd run it the last weeks of a cycle..

Don't know about 10-12 weeks?????

~EZ
 
EZ_E said:
I was very happy with the results I got with Var...

So much so that I don't think I would ever try winny...Not saying it's bad (can't cuz I've never run it) but if it ain't broken don't try ot fix it...

IMO, Var is well worth the price...

50 mg's a day for 5-6 weeks is ideal, IMO. I'd run it the last weeks of a cycle..

Don't know about 10-12 weeks?????

~EZ
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the only reason why people run orals for 4-6 weeks is because of liver toxicity. anavar is a very "mild" steroid and therefore, i believe running it for 10-12 weeks wouldnt be a problem. anavar isnt even close to being as toxic as winstrol dbol or anadrol
 
EZ_E said:
I was very happy with the results I got with Var...

So much so that I don't think I would ever try winny...Not saying it's bad (can't cuz I've never run it) but if it ain't broken don't try ot fix it...

IMO, Var is well worth the price...

50 mg's a day for 5-6 weeks is ideal, IMO. I'd run it the last weeks of a cycle..

Don't know about 10-12 weeks?????

~EZ
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Yo Ez_E did you do pharm grade or UG? Just asking cause I got UG and going w/ 40mg ed for about 6-7 weeks starting Monday. Currently on Test 500wk too.
From what I ear my stuff is good but I guess there's only 1 way to find out! :evil:
 
i am running a similar cycle now. test prop 50mg eod and 50 mg of winny a day. I love winny, personally i have used pharn grade var before and it really didnt do shit for me. I love winny and it works well. I also lose fat with winny, of course diet is in check as well.
 
LiquidPhire said:
Alc Due to current situation I have to rely on UGL's Winny/Var and the price is var's price is so similar to pharm grade I think id be better off just going with winstrol considering its 1/2 the cost and ugl. Agree??
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Go for Beastdrol from Needto - you will get better results...
 
Nomak666 said:
the only reason why people run orals for 4-6 weeks is because of liver toxicity. anavar is a very "mild" steroid and therefore, i believe running it for 10-12 weeks wouldnt be a problem. anavar isnt even close to being as toxic as winstrol dbol or anadrol
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Hmm, never thought of it like that, that's a really good point.

Maybe I should bump up my length this time...
 
Nomak666 said:
the only reason why people run orals for 4-6 weeks is because of liver toxicity. anavar is a very "mild" steroid and therefore, i believe running it for 10-12 weeks wouldnt be a problem. anavar isnt even close to being as toxic as winstrol dbol or anadrol
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Yes its true its not liver toxic although it does a number on your lipid values.

You can get away with doing a 10-12 weeker of anavar but long term effects of having such crappy HDL levels of doing that 1-2 times a year could have negative impact on your arteries/heart over time.

-Eric
 
WinnyPumps said:
Yo Ez_E did you do pharm grade or UG? Just asking cause I got UG and going w/ 40mg ed for about 6-7 weeks starting Monday. Currently on Test 500wk too.
From what I ear my stuff is good but I guess there's only 1 way to find out! :evil:
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UG.

I guess there's a chance it wasn't dosed @ what it was "supposed" to be but I've never been let down from where I got it so....
 
The liver toxicity is a issue with me, but I ordered tyler liver detox to run alongside any oral and just to "clean" me out a bit. Var or Winstrol still undecided ;)
 
WinnyPumps said:
Have any of you heard anything about ''GD'' Var if you know what that stands for??
Any feedback or experiences would be nice.
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It stands for G-DAM!!!

Which is what people say when they see me whilst running it
 
UGL anavar is underdosed/weaker. ive tried ip anavar at 50mg a day and for me to get similar results or effects, i have to run ugl at 80mg. with the liver detox your getting, make sure you DONT use milk thistle cuz i heard it effects protein synthesis.
 
var > winny ... if you can afford the huge price difference.

winny > var ... if you're being cheap, or incorporating into a cycle - no need to go all out.

imho, less than 60-80mg a day of var is waste - that's where it gets magical. So keep that in mind when digesting my opinion.

var > tbol > winny

var+tbol = ace.
 
Burpees said:
var > winny ... if you can afford the huge price difference.

winny > var ... if you're being cheap, or incorporating into a cycle - no need to go all out.

imho, less than 60-80mg a day of var is waste - that's where it gets magical. So keep that in mind when digesting my opinion.

var > tbol > winny

var+tbol = ace.
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Why would you run two orals at the same time?
 
Olivelawn said:
Why would you run two orals at the same time?
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because I would want the benefits of both of those compounds at the same time.

let me ask you, why *wouldn't* you?

let me guess, "bad for your liver".. this is assuming you even know where you stand on your panel's - how often do you get blood work done? how often do you get it on cycle? only way to determine what it's doing is to get tested pre, during, and post cycle..

yes, i question everything.
 
Nomak666 said:
UGL anavar is underdosed/weaker. ive tried ip anavar at 50mg a day and for me to get similar results or effects, i have to run ugl at 80mg. with the liver detox your getting, make sure you DONT use milk thistle cuz i heard it effects protein synthesis.
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Does Liv52 have milk thistle in it? If so what should I be taking?
Too late now I'm starting 40mg ed for 7 weeks. That's all I have enough for so I hope it's good shit.
 
Burpees said:
because I would want the benefits of both of those compounds at the same time.

let me ask you, why *wouldn't* you?

let me guess, "bad for your liver".. this is assuming you even know where you stand on your panel's - how often do you get blood work done? how often do you get it on cycle? only way to determine what it's doing is to get tested pre, during, and post cycle..

yes, i question everything.
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Easy there cowboy, I'm just asking that is all.

It has nothing to do with liver values at all. I would just not waste the time using T bol. I would just use D-bol (the king of orals).

I actually get bloodwork done on a monthly basis regardless if I am on or not. My brother is an MD.
 
I tried Var already at a very low dose and loved it. I am not trying winny. So I will see how they compare. I'd ideally like to have a late summer 12 week cutter with test, 6 weeks var, 2 weeks just test, finish with 4 weeks winny. We'll see...
 
I may be able to get my hands on some tbol AND var now ,so who knows what that will bring. I am not sure if I wanna run two orals in general though. But Var+Test Prop and AIFM sounds like my next 6 weeker.

How much of a synergistic effect does tbol and var have? I realize they are both light on the liver, but still cautious none the less.
 
WinnyPumps said:
Does Liv52 have milk thistle in it? If so what should I be taking?
Too late now I'm starting 40mg ed for 7 weeks. That's all I have enough for so I hope it's good shit.
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milk thistle inhibits protein synthesis. there are a ton of liver supplements outt here without milk thistle. just check out the ingredients label.
 
Nomak666 said:
milk thistle inhibits protein synthesis. there are a ton of liver supplements outt here without milk thistle. just check out the ingredients label.
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Oh shit, you serious? I just started my winny last week and also have just started milk thistle to protect my liver. If that's true, then I will trash that shit ASAP!
 
Olivelawn said:
Easy there cowboy, I'm just asking that is all.

It has nothing to do with liver values at all. I would just not waste the time using T bol. I would just use D-bol (the king of orals).

I actually get bloodwork done on a monthly basis regardless if I am on or not. My brother is an MD.
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That's cool I wasn't offended, and I wasn't being defensive.. :D I see how it can read like that.
 
ConanX said:
I tried Var already at a very low dose and loved it. I am not trying winny. So I will see how they compare. I'd ideally like to have a late summer 12 week cutter with test, 6 weeks var, 2 weeks just test, finish with 4 weeks winny. We'll see...
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This doesn't make one bit of sense to me.
 
ryno9000 said:
This doesn't make one bit of sense to me.
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1-12 Test
1-6 Anavar
9-12 Winny

That's what I was thinking, this way the orals aren't run together and there is a break between the two so my liver can chill. How do you think Winny and Var can be run together, safely? Thanks bro.
 
ConanX said:
1-12 Test
1-6 Anavar
9-12 Winny

That's what I was thinking, this way the orals aren't run together and there is a break between the two so my liver can chill. How do you think Winny and Var can be run together, safely? Thanks bro.
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That's a beautiful cycle, probably my next one! Just plenty of fish oils, flax, and lipid stable supplement, Liv 52 or other liver supps.
 
WinnyPumps said:
That's a beautiful cycle, probably my next one! Just plenty of fish oils, flax, and lipid stable supplement, Liv 52 or other liver supps.
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Cool, thanks man. I hope to be able to get enough Var for it. Also, I MIGHT be able to get a hold of some Primo. If I can get enough without going broke (Var ain't cheap either lol) then yeah, I plan on getting some crazy definition this summer.

Right now, my test, eq, and winny cycle has been incredible.

I am running Milk Thistle now. I hope it's not F'ing with protein synthesis...
 
Nomak666 said:
How can you be so sure? there are mixed reviews. so choose which side you stand on and either use milk thistle or use another liver protector. its not that big a deal.
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There are numerous studies which show that milk thistle is not that great. Google milk thistle studies while using AAS. Tylers is the best choice hands down, nothing else even comes close.

You're right that it's not that big of a deal but I was just pointing out that the information you typed was incorrect. I'm actually just trying to help the guy out by pointing him in the right direction.
 
Let me pose a question. WHY do you guys (mostly) all like Var over Winny? Winny trumps it in all areas in my opinion, ESPECIALLY when you factor in cost.

-Strength
-hardness
-a skin thinning appearance
-no sides (neither really have sides i guess)
-vascularity

Winny is King!
 
ryno9000 said:
Let me pose a question. WHY do you guys (mostly) all like Var over Winny? Winny trumps it in all areas in my opinion, ESPECIALLY when you factor in cost.

-Strength
-hardness
-a skin thinning appearance
-no sides (neither really have sides i guess)
-vascularity

Winny is King!
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I agree Winny is great but many people don't like the joint aches. It seems you can take Var for longer periods with less sides too.
I like Winny BUT I did start my Var today with my Test cycle for the first time so hopefully I will be advocating how good it is in about 7 weeks, lol!
 
Olivelawn said:
There are numerous studies which show that milk thistle is not that great. Google milk thistle studies while using AAS. Tylers is the best choice hands down, nothing else even comes close.
You're right that it's not that big of a deal but I was just pointing out that the information you typed was incorrect. I'm actually just trying to help the guy out by pointing him in the right direction.
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Link?
 
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