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Will working in a hot construction enviroment hurt my gains?

Sly_S13 said:
Hey guys I work in the depths of hell. Las Vegas and 4 floors beneath an unbuilt casino. It averages 105 and around 25% humidity where I work. I sweat non stop for 8 hours as well as climb up and down 12+ flights of stairs all day while carrying loads averaging 80lbs. I go through about 1.5 gallons of water a day before I leave work. So knowing my conditions should I still keep at my 3 days of cardio a week. ( 2 split 30 minute sessions per cardio day - 1 high intensity the other mild intensity)

I am eating 3500 cals a day currently while not on juice and still retaining 12%bf and holding at a steady 170lbs. Im about to start my next cycle(bulking), should I drop the cardio off completely? My diet will change accordingly, but my main concern is all the theoritical cardio I get all ready through out my work day.
In your situation, if you wish to bulk you should ease off on the cardio, as some have said, since you essentially do that all day long. Also, what time of day do you train? I recommend training in the morning, before your job from hell (or is it job *in* hell?) so you have that much more energy.
 
Apparently there are a lot of guys here that bust their asses for a living and do not mind. At age 9 I was mowing the neighbor's lawns for $5. I lied about my age and started working when I was 13 doing dishes by hand in a greasy spoon restaurant. When I say by hand, I mean by hand, not loading some industrial sized dishwasher and unloading it. I'd mop the floors and clean the shitters at closing. I'd work 6 hours nightly after school for $15 cash. On the weekends I'd be there at 4AM and peeling potatoes by hand until 6AM. From 6AM to 7PM I'd do more dishes, change the fryer grease, mop, clean shitters, etc for $50 cash. I did this until I was 16 and got a job in a grocery store. By the time I had graduated high school I had been working 20-40 hrs/wk for 5 yrs in addition to getting good grades in school. I'd only work 20 hrs a week or so during football and wrestling seasons though.

My parents seemed to think instilling a good work ethic in me from a very young age would be a good thing when in fact it did the opposite. When I started training seriously at age 19, I read in Muscle & Fitness that to be a great bodybuilder you must have a job that allows you to eat throughout the day. It also talked about how job related stress increased cortisol levels and hindered gains. I also read that manual labor jobs were not the jobs of choice for bodybuilders because eating was difficult and much of your training energy is consumed working so hard. This is when I became a bouncer and started working "watch the clock" styled desk jobs at gyms. I was so much happier being bored as fuck than busting my ass. It didn't even feel like work because I was pretty much standing around getting paid for being me. I knew that from then on I would spend my life working smart as opposed to hard.

Eventually my gym desk job turned into training people during the day and continuing to bounce at night. After getting to be 25 yrs old I was able to make it by training people alone w/o getting beer bottles busted over my head and cue balls thrown at me as a bouncer. I still made more $$$ than most guys my age with full time labor jobs and entry level post college white collar jobs by working part time. I took pride in the fact I rarely busted a sweat outside of the gym. This lifestyle choice I made was a huge contributing factor to winning the contests I have in the past. The coolest part was that I rarely ever dreaded work like many people do daily when there alarm clock goes off. As an adult I made some transitional moves where I'd occasionally work 40+ hours, but this lead to me running a business that pretty much ran itself. I can't remember the last time I woke up to an alarm clock. I think it's been around 15 years??? I also haven't had a paycheck signed by anyone but myself for about 15 years either. So I even eliminated the emotional stress of being fired for not kissing the boss's ass or outsourced like many working class people do everyday. People often get very jealous when I say these things because they've been lead to believe that they had no other choice than to take the paths in life that they have. After seeing Drs and lawyers bust their asses in school for 8-12 years only to work 80 hrs a week, I realized that many are miserable fucks that are aging twice as quickly as I am. Sure, they have every material thing they could ever want, but very little time to spend enjoying them. They also have little time for their wives and children because they have a lifestyle overhead that eats up their income rather quickly.

Thankfully as an adult I've made the right decisions in life that have allowed me to make a living doing something I'm passionate about. At the very least I've always had the time to do the things that I love most. Now that I no longer compete I even have plenty of time for hanging out with my dogs at the pool, riding my sportbike, and watching movies. I get to do these things daily. Compared to most people's days lives I'm on vacation 24/7. When the weekend comes I don't even give a shit, as everyday is the same for me. Sure, I'll hit a few bumps in the road now and then, but probably much less than most people in a month than most do in any given week.

2 days ago my monthly paying personal training client quit working out with me with no notice. His boss was flipping him shit and he was in fear of being fired. Therefore his luxury expense of having a trainer got put on the back burner. My $650 monthly gym rent was due today and I had to dip into my bank account to cover it because he backed out. I didn't like doing this, but it's about as stressful as my week can get.

Now I'd like to ask you guys that work labor jobs or $60K+/yr white collar jobs who has a better day to day life? Me? Or you? Be honest. Some may truly be happy with where they are at, how much they make, and what they do. I think that's awesome, but hardly the norm.

Life is all about choices and being able to objectively determine what makes you happy. It's unfortunate that many sheeple have bought into this ideal of working their asses of and being slaves to their own careers. With some forethought and objectivity anyone can have the life that they always wanted. Although I will say I owe a great deal of gratitude to my parents for providing me with an abusive and overworked childhood that gave me the strength to think outside of the box. Without my shitty upbringing I doubt I've had the balls to take the road less traveled. I have absolutely no regrets.

Remember guys, it's never too late to take charge of your lives and make the necessary changes that will enhance your life from day to day. If I can do it, anyone can. Like the ad says, "Life is short. Play hard!!!"
 
Big Cracker said:
With some forethought and objectivity anyone can have the life that they always wanted. Although I will say I owe a great deal of gratitude to my parents for providing me with an abusive and overworked childhood that gave me the strength to think outside of the box. Without my shitty upbringing I doubt I've had the balls to take the road less traveled. I have absolutely no regrets.

I don't really have anything to contribute to the thread, but I just wanted to point out how fucking awesome this paragraph is. If you didn't read it or skimmed over BC's response the first time, go back and re-read it.

As a dumbass twenty-two year old who doesn't know his ass from his elbow, I can say it's really great to hear things like this from people of all walks of life. It's reassuring, in a way, that the tyranny of the rat race is not yet final.

Thanks.
 
cjangelo said:
I don't really have anything to contribute to the thread, but I just wanted to point out how fucking awesome this paragraph is. If you didn't read it or skimmed over BC's response the first time, go back and re-read it.

As a dumbass twenty-two year old who doesn't know his ass from his elbow, I can say it's really great to hear things like this from people of all walks of life. It's reassuring, in a way, that the tyranny of the rat race is not yet final.

Thanks.

You really don't need to be a miserable old fucker if you don't wanna be. My parents busted their asses and rarely ever cracked a smile. I never wanted to have their lives when I grew up so I made it a point not to. I'm not saying that you want face challenges in the future. You most definitely will. Just try to determine what you want, not what your parents want or what your friends want. After your parents die what they think won't matter anyway. As far as friends go you'll probably be able to count the number of true friends you'll have in your lifetime on 1 hand, so fuck what they think too.
 
I'm not saying that you wont face challenges in the future. You most definitely will. Just try to determine what you want, not what your parents want or what your friends want.

Reminds me of this:

Bob Dylan said:
If you don't believe there's a price for this sweet paradise, just remind me to show you the scars.

There's always a price to pay for doing what you want to do and being who you want to be. What price did YOU pay, BC?

(Again, sorry I have nothing to contribute to the thread).
 
BigCracker said:
Now I'd like to ask you guys that work labor jobs or $60K+/yr white collar jobs who has a better day to day life? Me? Or you? Be honest. Some may truly be happy with where they are at, how much they make, and what they do. I think that's awesome, but hardly the norm.

I work as a school teacher. Its a lot of pressure as buck stops with you as regards the final results of the students. Parents aren't going to listen to you telling them the reason why their son isn't any good at economics and can't grasp "Demand & Supply" is because he thinks that if he complains like a MoFo someone will supply whatever he wants! He thinks Business works like this as well! There is definitely the risk of Cortisol kicking in if you aren't fully organised and prepared for it.

But, I can eat as much as I want and I don't use as much physical energy as someone on a construction site. It does make you feel like a bit of a hyprocite though. Telling the kids not to do anything illegal whilst going home and injecting myself with Testosterone and chewing anavar like its going out of fashion!!!!
 
riverrock said:
I work as a school teacher. Its a lot of pressure as buck stops with you as regards the final results of the students. Parents aren't going to listen to you telling them the reason why their son isn't any good at economics and can't grasp "Demand & Supply" is because he thinks that if he complains like a MoFo someone will supply whatever he wants! He thinks Business works like this as well! There is definitely the risk of Cortisol kicking in if you aren't fully organised and prepared for it.

But, I can eat as much as I want and I don't use as much physical energy as someone on a construction site. It does make you feel like a bit of a hyprocite though. Telling the kids not to do anything illegal whilst going home and injecting myself with Testosterone and chewing anavar like its going out of fashion!!!!

Two things.

1. You are providing a service that contributes to the well being of society and you have the option to accomodate your workout lifestyle's requirements while doing so. So what if you are way underpaid? You are a modern day Saint. Hypocrite or not, as long as they don't see the juice you are fine. You still appear to possess a discipline that others dont, which should get you way more respect from students than the frumpy fat ass teacher that offers no hope. What kind wants to think that frumpy and fat is their fate as an adult? Kids will relate to a fit person better and hopefully learn more because you haven't completely lost your youth. By letting yourself regress into an old, fat, miserable piece of shit that smells like cigarettes and cheap cologne, you aren't going to have as many kids reaching out to you for help. Being who you are IMNSHO is one of the few things I could justify the need for dealing with the release of a bit of Cortisol now and then.
Plus you fuckers get summers off/ paid in advance.


2. As long as you are confident that your life doesn't suck you've got it better than probably 75% of society. Oh wait, I forgot about all the people on anti depressants that are so doped up they actually believe that they are happy when they are not, so more like 50%. Different people have different expectations of themselves. If working with kids is the most rewarding career you can have that's fucking awesom. It's also awesome to be doing what you're doing now and having some sort of side hobby that involves making money. Maybe tutoring? Or continuing your education to do something else that you are equally as passionate about.


If I had to relive my life and go the college route, teaching school would've been in my top 3 list of career choices. This is based on job security, hours, pay, country wide demand, personal fulfillment, and bodybuilding lifestyle friendliness. While teaching, there is also free time in addition to time alloted for training to pursue other methods of income. I'm a firm believer in always having less serious side gig that pays you for doing something else you enjoy. You could be a part time trainer or work at the gym desk on weekends? I say this cuz the guy at my gym that works weekend graveyards is a high school PE teacher in the hood. He sits behind the gym desk and sleeps or surfs the web all night. He says he'd be doing the same thing at home anyway, so why not get paid??? He seems like a pretty happy guy in spite of never having a day off too. From what I hear, his students think that he's the greatest. I think I had 3 teachers in my life that really gave a shit. I surely never thought that any of those 3 were great and my PE teachers were usually big time assholes. Because of guys like him, this world may actually last another 50 yrs or so.
 
cjangelo said:
Reminds me of this:



There's always a price to pay for doing what you want to do and being who you want to be. What price did YOU pay, BC?

(Again, sorry I have nothing to contribute to the thread).

That is an excellent question though. I think my price to pay has been that over the years I've become too selfish to ever have a wife and children. Life just seemed so much more warm and fuzzy when I believed that love existed in the way that it's portrayed in the movies. I have no desire to have a wife or kids at all. I just know that other guys do want these things and I don't. I don't even know what it's like . Is that payment for doing what I want to do and being who I want to be??? I'm not quite sure if it is or it isn't???
 
Big Cracker said:
I think my price to pay has been that over the years I've become too selfish to ever have a wife and children. Life just seemed so much more warm and fuzzy when I believed that love existed in the way that it's portrayed in the movies. I have no desire to have a wife or kids at all. I just know that other guys do want these things and I don't. I don't even know what it's like . Is that payment for doing what I want to do and being who I want to be??? I'm not quite sure if it is or it isn't???

I think it is a price to pay. You value your independence, your particular lifestyle, and the price you had to pay was not having a family. Did you miss out on some great things? Yeah, sure, probably. Did you gain a lot and have more fun that others didn't have? I'm betting YES.

What other prices did you have to pay, though? Maybe it was the not eating refined sugar or carbohydrates for 3 years to fulfill your bodybuilding goals, goals that you parlayed into a successful training business?

The long and short of it all is, it required hard work and discipline to make the life you wanted. I'm just prying into what exactly it took. The world did not hand you this comfortable, enjoyable life on a platter. You made it for yourself. I want to know how so I can do that for myself.

Thanks
 
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