will anavar on a bulking cycle help lose fat?

[AlphaMaleDawg]

wondering if it is worth adding the last four weeks of my test and deca cycle coming up

 

[Nomak666]

wondering if it is worth adding the last four weeks of my test and deca cycle coming up

Maybe a little bit, but it has more to do with your diet then what drugs to use. If you gained alot of fat during your bulking cycle, then im sure you ate whatever you want. i can gain 20-25 pounds on a bulking cycle and still see my abs, and no im not a hardgainer, im more of an endomorph, skinny fat type. or at least i used to be.

your better off adding a cardio session after your weight training. keep the intensity low, 3.0-3.2 mph walk for 30-45 minutes. that should burn some fat and allow you to keep gaining.

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

nope I am very strict with my diet when I need to be. I can withstand cravings. I would be bulking on 3500 calories since I am 5'9 190lbs. As for adding cardio to my bulking cycle, would I have to alter my diet in that case? Or should I stick with the plan? I don't want to burn too many calories to the point I am not gaining, but I love doing cardio

 

[RADAR]

Diet is the key not a pill.

I can assist you there if you're at a sticking point.

RADAR

 

[Nomak666]

nope I am very strict with my diet when I need to be. I can withstand cravings. I would be bulking on 3500 calories since I am 5'9 190lbs. As for adding cardio to my bulking cycle, would I have to alter my diet in that case? Or should I stick with the plan? I don't want to burn too many calories to the point I am not gaining, but I love doing cardio

Low intensity cardio is the key to burning fat without burning muscle. 30-45 minutes of low intensity cardio at 3.0mph will burn about 250-300 calories.

well you are bulking so i dont know why you want to lose fat. its hard to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. you sound like you want to lean bulk. i would just stick with the diet. how long have you been on this diet? and at 5'9 and 190 pounds eating 3500 calories, i dont know how you are getting fat. im 5'6 175 pounds and im eating 3000 calories as a maintenance meaning im not losing weight and im not gaining weight but im slowly burning the fat and gaining muscle. ust post up your diet, and let me and radar check it out so we can see if you are doing something wrong. and how many days a week do you train?

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

I am pretty lean but not as shredded as before my first cycle of test-e only. I gained a crap load of muscle though. Here was a rough example of my diet (from microsoft word on my computer). The protein on my cycle was actually lower and the carbs were higher than what I am posting below. This is just the new diet i plan on doing for my second cycle. What do you think?

Meal 1
4 whole eggs (24 protein/4 carb/18 fat, 280 calories), 1 slice cheese (6/0/4.5, 70), 1 whole wheat bagel (10/49/2, 240), 1 small whole wheat bagel (5/22/1, 110), fish oil (0/0/4, 40)
45 protein/75 carbs/29.5 fat, 740 calories

Meal 2
2 tablespoons natural peanut butter (8/5/17, 200), 2 slices whole wheat bread (8/36/3, 200)
16/41/20, 400 calories

Meal 3
1 chicken breast (32/0/1.5, 140), 2 slices whole wheat bread (8/36/3, 200)
40/36/4.5, 340 calories

Meal 4 (preworkout)
1 scoop whey protein (23/3/2, 122), 1 ½ cups oatmeal (15/81/9, 450)
38/84/11, 572

Meal 5 (post workout)
2 scoops whey protein (46/6/4, 244), 2 scoops Perfect Carb (0/60/0, 240)
46/66/4, 484

Meal 6 (1 hour after post workout)
1 chicken breast (32/0/1.5, 140), 1 cup brown rice (8/66/2, 300), whole wheat tortilla (4/22/2, 120)
44/88/5.5, 560

Meal 7 (bedtime)
1 scoop Ultra Peptide (23/2.5/1.5, 115), 1 scoop whey protein (23/3/2, 122), 2 tablespoons natural peanut butter (8/5/17, 200)
46/5.5/20.5, 437 calories

TOTAL: 275/395.5/95, 3,533 calories

 

[Nomak666]

I am pretty lean but not as shredded as before my first cycle of test-e only. I gained a crap load of muscle though. Here was a rough example of my diet (from microsoft word on my computer). The protein on my cycle was actually lower and the carbs were higher than what I am posting below. This is just the new diet i plan on doing for my second cycle. What do you think?

Meal 1
4 whole eggs (24 protein/4 carb/18 fat, 280 calories), 1 slice cheese (6/0/4.5, 70), 1 whole wheat bagel (10/49/2, 240), 1 small whole wheat bagel (5/22/1, 110), fish oil (0/0/4, 40)
45 protein/75 carbs/29.5 fat, 740 calories

Meal 2
2 tablespoons natural peanut butter (8/5/17, 200), 2 slices whole wheat bread (8/36/3, 200)
16/41/20, 400 calories

Meal 3
1 chicken breast (32/0/1.5, 140), 2 slices whole wheat bread (8/36/3, 200)
40/36/4.5, 340 calories

Meal 4 (preworkout)
1 scoop whey protein (23/3/2, 122), 1 ½ cups oatmeal (15/81/9, 450)
38/84/11, 572

Meal 5 (post workout)
2 scoops whey protein (46/6/4, 244), 2 scoops Perfect Carb (0/60/0, 240)
46/66/4, 484

Meal 6 (1 hour after post workout)
1 chicken breast (32/0/1.5, 140), 1 cup brown rice 2/88/2, 300), whole wheat tortilla (4/22/2, 120)
44/88/5.5, 560

Meal 7 (bedtime)
1 scoop Ultra Peptide (23/2.5/1.5, 115), 1 scoop whey protein (23/3/2, 122), 2 tablespoons natural peanut butter (8/5/17, 200)
46/5.5/20.5, 437 calories

TOTAL: 275/395.5/95, 3,533 calories

meal 2 doesnt have any direct source of protein. add 2 scoops of whey. also why so many carbs at the end of the day and less during the morning? whats your goals for this cycle.

and i was talking about your previous diet with your bulking cycle. obviously it wasnt on point if you have fat that you want to lose. i dont know what youre trying to say. you say youre pretty lean but you want to lose fat. seems like you arent sure about anything bro. im trying to help but the information youre giving isnt giving me much to work with. what do you plan to get out of this next cycle with that diet you posted? are you going for bulk, lean bulk, or cut?

the diet you posted is ok but not that great. also 1 cup of brown rice does NOT have 88 grams of carbs, more like 32-35g.

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

meal 2 doesnt have any direct source of protein. add 2 scoops of whey. also why so many carbs at the end of the day and less during the morning? whats your goals for this cycle.

and i was talking about your previous diet with your bulking cycle. obviously it wasnt on point if you have fat that you want to lose. i dont know what youre trying to say. you say youre pretty lean but you want to lose fat. seems like you arent sure about anything bro. im trying to help but the information youre giving isnt giving me much to work with. what do you plan to get out of this next cycle with that diet you posted? are you going for bulk, lean bulk, or cut?

the diet you posted is ok but not that great. also 1 cup of brown rice does NOT have 88 grams of carbs, more like 32-35g.

I don't have the old one I followed last time anymore on my computer, but it was similar. slighly less protein and slightly more carbs on that one. calories were about the same.

The reason I gained a little bit of fat on the last one is because I foolishly went from a cutting diet at pretty low cals (2400ish) straight to 3500 without any segway or anything. I am still relatively lean and have good abs when flexed, but not relaxed.

For my next cycle, I will be going for a lean bulk. I will take your advice of a scoop of whey at meal 2. The reason most carbs are later in the day is because I work out after work from 6:30-7:30 so I try to get most of my carbs around work out time.

 

[AlphaMaleDawg]

bump

btw the bagged brown rice i get is 66 carbs, not 88. Regardless, the totals are the same. I will add 2 scoops whey with the peanut butter. Any other changes? I am afraid it's too protein powder heavy