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Why Primo Kicks Your Steroid's Ass.

Nelson Montana

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I know this has been mentioned, but it bears repeating.

Testosterone is only one of the factors in muscle growth. A simple case in point: A single shot of 100 mgs a week will raise T levels to around 900 ngs which is WAY up there -- as much as any natural athlete can expect to have. But as everyone knows, that much gear won't do dick.

Why?

It comes down to protein synthesis. How much protein your muscles can utilize is what will determine how much muscle you grow. Of course, testosterone will increase protein synthesis too, but it will also increase weight, aggression, strength and libido, which makes it seem oh so more powerful than Primo. Butat the end of the line , 1000mgs of Primo will pt on more muscle than 1000mgs of T, and it'll do it with less suppression.
Keep in mind, how much protein our muscles can utilize is determined by genetics, even when on gear. This is why you see so many " steroid blobs." They take a lot of gear. They may even train hard and eat right. But there body will only accept so much protein, after that, there's fat and water and increased blood volume and estrogen. As I said: "blobs."

Enter Primo -- specifcally designed to be as low in androgens as possible. Primo does essentially one thing. It uses protein to repair -- which is exactly what you want. But how many times have you heard; "Aw, Primo's weak as shit." You know why people say that? Two reasons: One; They don't take in enough protein. Without protein the steroid has nothing to do. You must saturate your bloodstream with aminos. And two: They don't train hard enough. Without sufficient muscle breakdown the drug also has nothing to do. It must recognize trauma and seek to repair it. The result? More muscle. But of course, testosterone will give the illusion much more dramatically leading people to believe it's stronger. It isn't. It is harsher though. And cheaper, therefore attractive.

I'd have to say that only tren and maybe d-bol beats Primo in the pure muscle growth department, but 1000 mgs of d-bol a week is out of the question and considering tren's side effects, it too isn't the wisest choice.

No sides. Can't convert to estrogen. Doesn't bloat. Isn't as hard on hair as people think. Harly suppressive. And builds quality muscle. Primo's the shit. I'm surprised more companies haven't made their own version.
 
Little Rage said:
are there any companies that make primo that have a good rep?

Schering 100mg/ml AMP's. The average price ranges between $14-17 per AMP, which is way overpriced IMO. That along with the frequency of injections (ED) or EoD make it one of the least attractive AAS compouds in the market for the price. You get much more bang fo your buck with Test.
 
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The Terminator said:
Too bad it is so highly (and well) faked....:(

I hear that. I would be all over primo in a second if it was widely available and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

But when it comes to price and availability, test is king. It's cheap and effective, and judging from the overabundance of "help i have gyno" posts, people obviously don't care about the side effects when making a purchase.
 
Buy some eq, its stronger than primo. Again Nelson what about boldenone do you not find appealing? Please no "human grade" arguments.
 
Too bad it would cost me $120/week for a gram. No thanks, I'm fine with my test and dbol, lol.
 
But Nelson, can i guy with many heavy cycles under his belt build some muscles at 1 g a week of primo? there is a lot of guys here at the board that juice a lot with high doses, do you think this guys can achive good results with primo only?

sorry for my poor english
 
chaquito said:
But Nelson, can i guy with many heavy cycles under his belt build some muscles at 1 g a week of primo? there is a lot of guys here at the board that juice a lot with high doses, do you think this guys can achive good results with primo only?

sorry for my poor english

Your cost on that would be approx $140-170 per week. That's ridculous. Stick with Test or Deca. Primo isn't a wonder drug.
 
jubei said:
Buy some eq, its stronger than primo. Again Nelson what about boldenone do you not find appealing? Please no "human grade" arguments.

EQ is for horses...LOL:doublefi:
 
What about Red Star's Primo. Anyone know if it's worth a shit? Also what is the ideal dose for primo? 6'1'', 195lbs, 8% this is 3rd cycle and diet is pretty clean. I want to add about 10-12lbs of solid gains, think this can be done with only primo and tren.
 
Bigpress26 said:
What about Red Star's Primo. Anyone know if it's worth a shit? Also what is the ideal dose for primo? 6'1'', 195lbs, 8% this is 3rd cycle and diet is pretty clean. I want to add about 10-12lbs of solid gains, think this can be done with only primo and tren.


RSOC has been having some problems lately with their products not testing very well, especially their Primo.
 
jubei said:
Buy some eq, its stronger than primo. Again Nelson what about boldenone do you not find appealing? Please no "human grade" arguments.

You do raise a good point here. EQ is much more potent gram for gram. People mainly use Primo in lieu of EQ on "cutting" cycles as they both have very similar properties but Primo doesnt aromatize and doesn't have progestagenic activity.
 
What if i have the primo on hand and planned on doing it until I heard the neg things about Red Star? Still do it? I hate injections but will do it for results, if there is a good chance this stuff test at 0% steriod I'm not sure I should risk it.
If it were you would you assume it was underdosed, not dosed at all or 200mg like it is supposed to be?
thanks bigpress
 
Bigpress26 said:
What if i have the primo on hand and planned on doing it until I heard the neg things about Red Star? Still do it? I hate injections but will do it for results, if there is a good chance this stuff test at 0% steriod I'm not sure I should risk it.
If it were you would you assume it was underdosed, not dosed at all or 200mg like it is supposed to be?
thanks bigpress

That stuff has been proven to be nothing but complete garbage. I'd go back to the where you bought it and demand a refund. Don't inject that crap into your body.
 
Tren kicks the shit out of primo. I'd like to know the side effects that make tren so horrible?
Liver toxic? Not really?
Kidney's? Does anyone have proof of that?
 
Corleone said:
Tren kicks the shit out of primo. I'd like to know the side effects that make tren so horrible?
Liver toxic? Not really?
Kidney's? Does anyone have proof of that?

Just to name a few....

Tren Sides:

Night sweats
Sleep deprivation
aggression
HPTA Shutdown
Bad for the lipid profile
Hard on the hair line
harder on the prostate
Was attributable to HI's recent bout with Cancer
Unless you take beta blockers, blood pressure can up go up
uncontrollable itching from all the hives
 
Shit man that sucks about this possibly bunk primo. I paid a boatload for it too. more than I should have i think. I already asked for a refund/exchange and dude said no. (If your reading....do the right thing man. At least split the difference with me.)
As for the sides on the tren, not too bad. I tend to hold a bit of water on it, (most don't I hear) low sex drive and that about does it. oh yeah a bit of backne also. Over all I love it.
bigpress
 
chaquito said:
But Nelson, can i guy with many heavy cycles under his belt build some muscles at 1 g a week of primo? there is a lot of guys here at the board that juice a lot with high doses, do you think this guys can achive good results with primo only?

sorry for my poor english
Your english is fine. :)

The answer to your question - yes.
 
Primo is the safest steroid out there. Eq is however stronger, cheaper, and more likely authentic. The sides of eq are quite mild and easily contollable with a low dose of anastrazole, letrozole, etc.

Fina and primo should not be in the same category. Fina has MANY side effects as JA stated. If AAS were free I would only do cycles of primo and var. Since they're not I'll be using test and eq.
 
I'm too young to use any roids right now, unlike most i want to make a good naturl base first, but if i use anything it would be primo and/or var

I just hope i can find a way to get it.
 
Juice Authority said:


Just to name a few....

Tren Sides:

Night sweats
Sleep deprivation
aggression
HPTA Shutdown
Bad for the lipid profile
Hard on the hair line
harder on the prostate
Was attributable to HI's recent bout with Cancer
Unless you take beta blockers, blood pressure can up go up
uncontrollable itching from all the hives

Combine that with the completely rediculous doses people here run these days and its not a good combination.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Isn't as hard on hair as people think. .


Where would it rank on Hairloss relative to Deca EQ VAR Test Tren Winny?

I keep reading posts about people losing hair on primo. don't read that with Var or Deca. Does it hurt hair indirectly perhaps like winny (by freeing lots of bound test)?
 
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geoboy said:



Where would it rank on Hairloss relative to Deca EQ VAR Test Tren Winny?

I keep reading posts about people losing hair on primo. don't read that with Var or Deca. Does it hurt hair indirectly perhaps like winny (by freeing lots of bound test)?

Deca and var are, by far, the safest on the hairline. Primo is a dht derivetive, so yes it is harsh on the hairline.

Test would be the harshest, but since we have finasteride than this is no issue.

-sk
 
i do agree that more companies should be making there own version, but i don't rank it as the shit, although you make some good points......

I'll still take primoTESTIN over primoBOLIN anyday!!
 
haxedout said:
red stars primo is legit!! im on it and it real, too bad youll cant get it.. only vip members now....:D

Ever heard of a thing called "Placebo effect"?
 
Actually primo is a dhb derivitive. : )
 
VIP....LMFAO
 
Actually someone else had it tested and it came out at 196.8 mg/ml i believe and that was made into a scan. This was primo sent in from a person who bought the stuff and not redstar themselves. I think the first test was fucked up and now we see a correct test done. So the 196.8 mg/ml is a great placebo that i cant wait to begin in a few weeks.

Oh yeah, one other important plug for primo and a few other anabolics. This was posted at steroidology a while back. Its a good read.

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How to increase collegen synthesis!! (i.e. - strengthen those tendons and ligiments)
originally posted by AnimalMass on competitivemuscle.com

While injecting test increases protein syntesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man.

Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.

Also, the drugs I mention increase collagen syn while also increasing collagen cross-linking integrity, making for a much stronger tendon.

Winstrol, on the other hand, will dramatically increase collagen syn, but ironically it decreases collagen cross-linking integrity, thus making a much weaker tendon.

You can plan a cycle of AAS which will increase collagen synthesis and skeletal muscle growth at the same time. The key is the drug(s) you choose.

Deca, Equipoise, Anavar, and Primobolan will ALL increase skeletal muscle while at the same time dramatically increase collagen syn and bone mass and density, leaving you with a substantially reduced chance of becoming injured than if you choose to use AAS like sus, cyp, or enth.

While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.

To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.

Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood

Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.

Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.

Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle clomid use. Here they are:

Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days Primobolan: 10.5 days

Anavar has a half-life of only 8 hours so it should not pose a problem.

GH is probably the most remarkable drug at increasing collagen synthesis. It increases collagen syn in a dose dependant manner -- the more you use, the more you will increase collagen syn. It has also demonstrated this ability in short and long term studies. From what I've read, hGH at 6 iu/day increased the collagen deposition rate by around 250% in damaged collagen structures. This result indicates that the increased biomechanical strength of wounds to collagen structures treated with biosynthetic human growth hormone was produced by an increased deposition of collagen in the collagen structures.

Eq, primo, anavar, and deca are all good -- they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. GH just seems to do so most dramatically.

Use of any of these drugs @ supra-physiological levels with a maintenance dose of test will increase collagen syn while at the same time increase skeletal muscle mass. Skeletal muscle mass gains will not be as dramatic as with large testosterone doses but you have to weigh the risk/reward basis for yourself. Also, these drugs do not satisfy the libido like testosterone, but that is not the point of this thread. It is only to demonstrate that you can increase skeletal muscle and collagen syn at the same time with certain AAS -- the decision is up to you.

AnimalMass
 
for most, cost efficiency is a major determinant. with that in mind primo is not an ideal option.

but if your muscles mean the world to you and you have a few extra bucks to burn... accept no substýtute.
 
I've seen Primo available far cheaper then stated on this board. But the reason I stay away from it is the counterfeit factor. I've heard this from many major suppliers. The fakes are so good they can't even tell.
 
genarr4 said:
I've seen Primo available far cheaper then stated on this board. But the reason I stay away from it is the counterfeit factor. I've heard this from many major suppliers. The fakes are so good they can't even tell.


an amateure will surely have a hard time identifying fakes, but rest assured that fake primos are very easily detected.......

VERY EASĂťLLY!:)
 
satchboogie said:



an amateure will surely have a hard time identifying fakes, but rest assured that fake primos are very easily detected.......

VERY EASĂťLLY!:)
No. I'm talking about major overseas suppliers that have been in business for years. If I mentioned names most would recognize.
 
A highly respected member of the board's comments on the subject of Primo.

Retabolil2 said:
Yes its possible that its real primo but I seriously doubt it my friend. I`d tell you only one thing about primo. Its absolutely impossible to get legit primo on european market and people are ready to pay huge money for Schering primo. there is no reason to sell primo to USA while europeans are ready to pay so much money for primo.
 
Nelson Montana: Since primobolan depot is so hard to get this days, what is the next best thing besides primo? anavar maybe?
 
I'm pretty sure Satch can tell the fakes from authentic primo. I wonder why?

I have the opportunity to purchase legit (gen med) primo from a reliable souce. The price was good (for primo) however I'll stay with the non 5-alpha reduced version of boldenone.
 
Juice Authority said:


Ever heard of a thing called "Placebo effect"?


save it!! im prety sure i have done more cycles than you and at greater dosages, i know when im juiced..dont be igorant
 
There may or may not be any primo in RSOC's "primo" however to say the results are placebo induced seems to be more than a bit of a stretch.
 
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sk* said:


Primo is a dht derivetive, so yes it is harsh on the hairline.

-sk

Being a DHT derivative does not necessarily mean something would have DHT-like effects on the prostate and hairline.

Being derived from from DHT and converting to DHT are very different.

Var is a derivative of test. By your logic it would be harsh on the hairline like test. However, it is not.

I am predisposed to MPB and lost hair on EQ and Dbol, but did not lose any on Winny or Primo.

I really think that hairloss can be a self-fulfilling prophecy. If you think you are going to lose hair, then you likely stress about it, which has been shown to exacerbate hair loss. So...Someone begins a Winny or Primo cycle... they have read numerous times about how it's a DHT derivative and how it's hard on the hair, so they expect to lose hair, putting added stress on themselves, and they effectively do lose hair... or atleast they pay more attention to it than they normally would, creating the illusion that they are losing a lot of hair.

I really do not think Primo is harsh on the hairline at all.
 
Not commenting on any underground labs gear here. However Schering fakes have been known to contain nandrolone making the users think they've received real gear.
 
Winny = DHT derivative

Primo = DHB derivative

: )
 
genarr4 said:
Not commenting on any underground labs gear here. However Schering fakes have been known to contain nandrolone making the users think they've received real gear.

Excellent point. That applies specifically to the Primo Schering Amp's.
 
jubei said:
Winny = DHT derivative

Primo = DHB derivative

: )

Actually this is right on the money...

Characteristics:

"Primobolan is a well-known and popular steroid as well. Like nandrolone it's most often used as a base compound for stacking with other steroids. Methenolone however, is a DHT-based steroid (actually, DHB or dihydroboldenone, the 5-alpha reduced of the milder boldenon). Meaning when it interacts with the aromatase enzyme it does not form estrogens at all. That makes it ideal for use when cutting when excess estrogen is best avoided because of its retentive effects on water and fat. Methenolone is mostly only used in such instances, or by people who are very succeptible to estrogenic side-effects, because the anabolic activity of methenolone is slightly lower than that of nandrolone, quite likely BECAUSE it is non-estrogenic"
 
jubei said:
Winny = DHT derivative

Primo = DHB derivative

: )

Yes me too, what do you mean by DHB?

JibbyJabba,

Even if my logic were flawed on the matter, I do know that the experience I read on the board from others isn't. Many people who claim never experienced hairloss, do say they experienced it with primo and winstrol.

For some reason these two have aggrevated hairloss more than even test. I assumed most run finasteride with the test, so it would be a non-issue.

It is possible what you say about the illusion, but I find it unlikely since many of these people have tried other AAS without any hairloss.

-sk
 
haxedout said:

save it!! im prety sure i have done more cycles than you and at greater dosages, i know when im juiced..dont be igorant

LOL! RSOC's Primo has been shown to contain ZERO Methenolone. In fact, when it was recently tested by a well-known lab their Primo contained no anabolic compound whatsoever. That is/was the basis for my statement. Argue if you will but the proof has already been posted.

http://www.bodybuilding4life.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1843

http://www.bodybuilding4life.com/forum/attachment.php?postid=11749
 
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Ha! JA, we are reading from the same book. LOL! This is why I keep telling people to stop wasting their money on fake primo. Don't get me wrong, primo does have its uses and unique benifits but at this time in North America its like trying to find a needle in a hay stack or trying to find "the primo in the fake amp... LOL

The sides from boldenone are so mild and easily controlled with a low dose anti-e that there isn't much point paying all that extra money and taking a chance of getting bunk grear.
 
jubei said:
The sides from boldenone are so mild and easily controlled with a low dose anti-e that there isn't much point paying all that extra money and taking a chance of getting bunk grear.

I would agree here, I would much rather go with eq. Much cheaper, and probably stronger on an mg to mg basis.

-sk
 
sk* said:


Yes me too, what do you mean by DHB?

JibbyJabba,

Even if my logic were flawed on the matter, I do know that the experience I read on the board from others isn't. Many people who claim never experienced hairloss, do say they experienced it with primo and winstrol.

For some reason these two have aggrevated hairloss more than even test. I assumed most run finasteride with the test, so it would be a non-issue.

It is possible what you say about the illusion, but I find it unlikely since many of these people have tried other AAS without any hairloss.

-sk

Very possible... and there's really no way to know for sure.

I do, however, think online people tend to add false anecdotal/personal experience in order to buttress claims like "Primo is harsh on the hair because it's a DHT derivative."

I only know that Primo and Winny both were fine on my hair, where as Dbol made if all out like I was on Chemo....

The irony that I would add the last statement after the former statement is not lost on me...
 
Sk, yes boldenone is stronger mg/mg. Also the small amount of estrogen from aromatization actually has a positive effect on the anabolic effect of bold.
 
JibbyJabba said:
I do, however, think online people tend to add false anecdotal/personal experience in order to buttress claims like "Primo is harsh on the hair because it's a DHT derivative."

Yea, very possible.

-sk
 
genarr4 said:

No. I'm talking about major overseas suppliers that have been in business for years. If I mentioned names most would recognize.

bro....

i dont know much about german primo or spanish primo.
probably wouldnt be able to tell a fake from real.

but ANY turkish gear, and i mean ANY turkish gear i can easily detect within a few seconds.

if a big supplier is fooled then we can conclude that he is indeed big but not very professional.:)
 
I'm speaking strickly of US customers. I post this higher on the thread so maybe you didn't see it:

Originally posted by Retabolil2
Yes its possible that its real primo but I seriously doubt it my friend. I`d tell you only one thing about primo. Its absolutely impossible to get legit primo on european market and people are ready to pay huge money for Schering primo. there is no reason to sell primo to USA while europeans are ready to pay so much money for primo.
 
genarr4 said:
I'm speaking strickly of US customers. I post this higher on the thread so maybe you didn't see it:

Originally posted by Retabolil2
Yes its possible that its real primo but I seriously doubt it my friend. I`d tell you only one thing about primo. Its absolutely impossible to get legit primo on european market and people are ready to pay huge money for Schering primo. there is no reason to sell primo to USA while europeans are ready to pay so much money for primo.

For the record, when it comes to Euro fakes Retabolil2 is the foremost expect next to Vovan (my Russian friend). Where has he been lately?
 
I back satch on this. Retabolil2 Knows his shit but I have to disagree with him on this. I was able to get legit Primo for my very first cycle and it worked well.
 
genarr4 said:
I'm speaking strickly of US customers. I post this higher on the thread so maybe you didn't see it:

Originally posted by Retabolil2
Yes its possible that its real primo but I seriously doubt it my friend. I`d tell you only one thing about primo. Its absolutely impossible to get legit primo on european market and people are ready to pay huge money for Schering primo. there is no reason to sell primo to USA while europeans are ready to pay so much money for primo.

COMPLETE NONSENSE!!!!

and i got a grand on that!
 
Nelson Montana said:
I know this has been mentioned, but it bears repeating.

Testosterone is only one of the factors in muscle growth. A simple case in point: A single shot of 100 mgs a week will raise T levels to around 900 ngs which is WAY up there -- as much as any natural athlete can expect to have. But as everyone knows, that much gear won't do dick.

Why?

It comes down to protein synthesis. How much protein your muscles can utilize is what will determine how much muscle you grow. Of course, testosterone will increase protein synthesis too, but it will also increase weight, aggression, strength and libido, which makes it seem oh so more powerful than Primo. Butat the end of the line , 1000mgs of Primo will pt on more muscle than 1000mgs of T, and it'll do it with less suppression.
Keep in mind, how much protein our muscles can utilize is determined by genetics, even when on gear. This is why you see so many " steroid blobs." They take a lot of gear. They may even train hard and eat right. But there body will only accept so much protein, after that, there's fat and water and increased blood volume and estrogen. As I said: "blobs."

Enter Primo -- specifcally designed to be as low in androgens as possible. Primo does essentially one thing. It uses protein to repair -- which is exactly what you want. But how many times have you heard; "Aw, Primo's weak as shit." You know why people say that? Two reasons: One; They don't take in enough protein. Without protein the steroid has nothing to do. You must saturate your bloodstream with aminos. And two: They don't train hard enough. Without sufficient muscle breakdown the drug also has nothing to do. It must recognize trauma and seek to repair it. The result? More muscle. But of course, testosterone will give the illusion much more dramatically leading people to believe it's stronger. It isn't. It is harsher though. And cheaper, therefore attractive.

I'd have to say that only tren and maybe d-bol beats Primo in the pure muscle growth department, but 1000 mgs of d-bol a week is out of the question and considering tren's side effects, it too isn't the wisest choice.

No sides. Can't convert to estrogen. Doesn't bloat. Isn't as hard on hair as people think. Harly suppressive. And builds quality muscle. Primo's the shit. I'm surprised more companies haven't made their own version.

I 100% agree with nelson this. While primo alone in small dosages may not do much, if combined with a stronger AAS and diet is on the mark you can definatly get soild results. I'm finishing up a Deca Primo cycle and have had great results. My next cycle will be test and Primo. Deca was good but gonna bump it up a notch. Bottom line though, I can't image not having primo in my arsenal for future cycles.
 
Yes, it would seem the higher supply-demand ratio in NA than anywhere else in the world when it comes to primo. Look at how many ppl bought RSOC's "primo"
 
Juice Authority said:


LOL! RSOC's Primo has been shown to contain ZERO Methenolone. In fact, when it was recently tested by a well-known lab their Primo contained no anabolic compound whatsoever. That is/was the basis for my statement. Argue if you will but the proof has already been posted.

http://www.bodybuilding4life.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1843

http://www.bodybuilding4life.com/forum/attachment.php?postid=11749

i take you havent seen the other two lab results?! there are one saying it has 0 steroids, a lot of bros are having it tested...like i said, save it, im using it and it has some type of AS in it(which i think is primo)...by the way it tested at 196.8mg/ml..!:D
 
haxedout said:


i take you havent seen the other two lab results?! there are one saying it has 0 steroids, a lot of bros are having it tested...like i said, save it, im using it and it has some type of AS in it(which i think is primo)...by the way it tested at 196.8mg/ml..!:D

Ok, so you got EQ for the price of Primo. Good job. Now if you just bought some QV EQ you could have purchased 5x the amount for the price you paid for what you thought to be Primo.:FRlol:
 
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haxedout said:


i take you havent seen the other two lab results?! there are one saying it has 0 steroids, a lot of bros are having it tested...like i said, save it, im using it and it has some type of AS in it(which i think is primo)...by the way it tested at 196.8mg/ml..!:D

There is no point in arguing haxed... now let's take our primo and go home... shoot and repeat....lol:p
 
So if I drive to Mexico, walk into a pharmacy, and purchase Primobolan Depot, you're telling me it's a fake? If not, then it's not so "impossible" to get in the US.
 
dragon14 said:
So if I drive to Mexico, walk into a pharmacy, and purchase Primobolan Depot, you're telling me it's a fake? If not, then it's not so "impossible" to get in the US.

I'm telling you YOU CAN'T buy Primo in Mex. It is NOT available. If you run across some old stock, since it was discontinued a long time ago, it'll cost ya about $14 an amp (in Mexico!).
 
Every other pharmacy I went into last time had Primo in stock. I didn't check the exp dates because I didn't want to pay for it (yep, about $14 per amp). I also don't know how much they had in stock because I didn't enquire further about it. Seemed easy to get to me... just requires too many amps, at too high a price, to make it a good choice for me.
 
dragon14 said:
Every other pharmacy I went into last time had Primo in stock. I didn't check the exp dates because I didn't want to pay for it (yep, about $14 per amp). I also don't know how much they had in stock because I didn't enquire further about it. Seemed easy to get to me... just requires too many amps, at too high a price, to make it a good choice for me.

That's for the 50mg/ml amp's too, which way way overpriced.
 
Exactly.

I think Nelson is sitting on a huge batch of Primo about to expire, so he's trying to move it by talking it up.

Just kidding!!!
 
dragon14 said:
Exactly.

I think Nelson is sitting on a huge batch of Primo about to expire, so he's trying to move it by talking it up.

Just kidding!!!

The way he pushes Primo I wouldn't doubt it since book sales are down. LOL...
 
dragon14 said:
Every other pharmacy I went into last time had Primo in stock. I didn't check the exp dates because I didn't want to pay for it (yep, about $14 per amp). I also don't know how much they had in stock because I didn't enquire further about it. Seemed easy to get to me... just requires too many amps, at too high a price, to make it a good choice for me.
I/He was refering strickly to the Euro market. But if I'm not mistaken those $14amps are 50mgs. A very expensive cycle.
 
thewood said:
hey little chris what were your results with your deca primo cyce????

I'll be putting up new pics tomorrow but as for the stats 5'6"

Weight before...151lbs
Weight now...162lbs

Bodyfat before...11.5%
Bodyfat now...9.5%

vascularity improved
hardness improved
significant strength increases in all exercises.

Peoples suspicion raised.

I got about 3 weeks left on the cycle.
 
Juice Authority said:


The way he pushes Primo I wouldn't doubt it since book sales are down. LOL...



Starting in again, eh numbnuts?


Bottom line with fakes: Anything can be faked. Go with a reliable source and keep your fingers crossed. If you get a good batch -- stock up.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Starting in again, eh numbnuts?

Bottom line with fakes: Anything can be faked. Go with a reliable source and keep your fingers crossed. If you get a good batch -- stock up.

Nah, not really. I was joking around but as you say if shoe fits...

Bottom line: Unless you have a lab report performed on a certain batch/lot # steer clear from Primo.
 
Nelson calm down. No need to start things up again.
 
Juice Authority said:


Schering 100mg/ml AMP's. The average price ranges between $14-17 per AMP, which is way overpriced IMO. That along with the frequency of injections (ED) or EoD make it one of the least attractive AAS compouds in the market for the price. You get much more bang fo your buck with Test.

Damn, not on a college students budget. :(

Guess I'll have to stick with the ICN/Schering Test Enanth.....
I realy would love to try Primo - although I almost always here how its "so harsh" on hair. I guess this may not be as true as people say. If its so mild w/ sides what makes it hard on hair exactly (or at least thought to be)?
 
Trust me guys, when it comes to spotting fake primo, Satch is the man. There is lots of real primo. Those who say different just dont know the right people.
 
This was actually a good read..........I'm proud of everyone here in keeping things civil!


RADAR
 
Matter of fact I will be ordering about 40 amps of turkish primo in about 3 weeks. I also plan to have one amp lab tested. Look for this to come up on several boards after I do.
 
powerforward said:
nelson and j.a. need to put each other on their ignore lists.

Well, JA agreed (for the seventh time) to stay out of my way, and once again, he starts with the digs. If you agree...agree. Don't instigate, however small. That's what I was bringing up. I see it starting all over again with this kid.

And if you use the term "If the shoe fits..." make it applicable.
 
Nelson Montana said:


Well, JA agreed (for the seventh time) to stay out of my way, and once again, he starts with the digs. If you agree...agree. Don't instigate, however small. That's what I was bringing up. I see it starting all over again with this kid.

And if you use the term "If the shoe fits..." make it applicable.

Nelson, do you know the secret to enlightenment?

Answer: To lighten up!

It was a joke my friend. Can't we all just get along?

:bigkiss:
 
NELSON, why do you think primo is so much better than eq?
 
jubei- have you ever ran primo before? If so was it a decent amount for a decent amount of time? I would choose primo over Eq anyday of the week. I got hard as hell on primo and added a good amount of lean mass. Although I did run it in pretty high doses. Eq did not make me as hard as primo, more vascular, but not as hard. Primo does not fuck with the RBC as bad either.
 
Kosh, never run primo before. Too damn expensive for me. Eq seems to be best run @ 600mg/week for 10-14 weeks. Eq does aromatize slightly (at about half the rate of test) so if you want to be harder use a low dose of liquidex (.5mg eod).
 
kosh said:
I just really cant believe people are saying that primo is on the same level as Eq. And yes the last time I ran Eq I did use l-dex.

I have always thought of primo as a weaker eq. Granted I have never tried either ...

-sk
 
I just really cant believe people are saying that primo is on the same level as Eq. And yes the last time I ran Eq I did use l-dex.
 
What is so hard to believe? I'm not sure what "on the same level" means? Primo is a weaker eq with fewer sides and slightly less suppressive on HTPA. Boldenone is the parent compound for primo. Bold is stronger mg/mg than primo and much cheaper. Throw in some winstrol with a good diet and you should get shredded.
 
Koivu_11 said:
one question...

does primo shuts your libido hardly when ran "alone"?

Hardly. Primo is the least suppresive out of the bunch. Less suppression = greater sex drive
 
Juice Authority said:


Hardly. Primo is the least suppresive out of the bunch. Less suppression = greater sex drive

Yeah, but not if you're running a GRAM.
 
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