Why do some of you people believe in God??

[MaGilicuti]

because i need to believe in something. To think that when you die, there is nothing...the end....thats depressing. This way I feel better about death

but that is a bad reason to believe. aren't you pissed that you are believing for the sack of your own sanity? that is just a waste of time. why lie to yourself?

 

[Rex]

RyanH doesn't believe in the literal meaning of the Bill of Rights, remember...

<Smacks self in forehead> I forgot about that Weapon X. Thanks for reminding me.

 

[MaGilicuti]

no one has come close to making me believe. all everyone is just saying they believe "because"

come on everyone think about it. god doesn't exist. our existance means nothing we are just like all the other animals on the planet. we are going to die and there will be nothing, no heaven or hell. people have problems excepting this.

give me a reason why you believe in god, i know there are a lot of people on here that have religion

 

[elijah]

Reasons?

no one has come close to making me believe. all everyone is just saying they believe "because"

come on everyone think about it. god doesn't exist. our existance means nothing we are just like all the other animals on the planet. we are going to die and there will be nothing, no heaven or hell. people have problems excepting this.

give me a reason why you believe in god, i know there are a lot of people on here that have religion

Did you bother to read my post?
I believe because (warning reason coming up) God worked powerfully in my life, doing things that I could never do. Inner strength or not, you don't just get out of withdrawls from a hardcore drug addiction like I had. Ask any doctor. 3 months of being high on opium/crack/cocaine/xanax/pot/shrooms/acid in 4 hit doses no problem. Andy any combination of the above. Granted the xanax on isn't really withdrawl inducing but if you know jack about opium, crack or coccaine especially when your messed up on it for months straight you know you just don't walk away no matter your inner strength. It takes a miracle to do that. Even that aside the complete change in my mind, while there is no way I can prove that I went from being
1. Addicted to drugs
2. Chasing sex constantly
3. Stealing for the fun of it
4. Not caring about others enough to rape somone I loved
5. 150 lb over weight
6. Eating like a pig, even while on crazy amounts of amphetamines
7. Eating shrooms in 7 gram doses and not really noticing much
8. Mastrubating on a very regular basis even while having a normal sex life
9. Fighting for the fun of it

to none of that, and being rather offended at who I used to be and disgusted by so much of who I was.
Laugh, make fun, hate, disbeleive me. Do whatever you want thats the free will part of God's plan. But I beg you listen to what I"m telling you, God is real, He loves you, and the peace he brings can never be taken away.

I mean really you all talk about how its the easy way for weak people. Look around following God isn't the easy way here, I'm argueing with half the board, standing up against the sexual current, and speaking what I know in my heart despite the ridicule it brings. Truely seeking God is not an easy path, but nothing will ever turn me from it.
You are all in my prayers, please let God work in your lives. The reason people can't explain it to you is because God is beyond our words, you can't say how the Holy Spirit feels, or how His love changes you. God calls us to faith, not to a cold calculating religion, its so much deeper than that. Kind of like the difference between having sex with a hooker, and making love to your wife. There is something that that can't be explained only fealt.

 

[decem]

Re: I know exactly where your at.

What would it take for you to believe?

that is a question one cannot answer.

everyone i have ever heard that has said they "truly believe," has come to this conclusion not through the church pushing their teachings/rules/regulations on that person, and not from others "convincing" them to believe, but through some divine intervention where they have come to question/problem/occurrence that they could only attribute as having been the works of a deity. most such interventions having been different from others' of their kind.

i have too scientific of a mind to ever give up on finding an explanation to such an "unexplanable" occurrence. i will never come tired of looking for answers to everything. i also know that i will never contribute any of life's obstacles that i have conquered as anything other than something that came as a result of my inner-strength, and any of life's obstacles that have conquered me as a result of a weakness within me - that i would then confront, strengthen, get rid of.

what i can tell you is that, should i come to the time when i am ready to believe in your christ as my savior and your god as the supremacy to all mankind, the earth, and the universe... i would never practice the dogma that comes as a requesite for such religions, but rather intertwine such belief with the practices of buddhism and practice my own religion.

and i will never stop asking or exploring the great question of who or what we are right now, right here, and should your god come into the picture somehow, i would never stop questioning who or what it is.





i'm am sleepy and have grown tired of writing.

good night.

 

[Laserdude]

Well if you don't believe me, maybe your answer lies in yourself.

YOU ARE A REFLECTION OF GOD, that is why your here.

I can't say for sure you will find this out. It just is. The order of the universe shows a component that even
the most well versed in physics have yet to find this component, not even quantum physics have been touched on this subject.

Sooner or later you will come to believe, or at least a sense of yourself in the scheme of things to be or waiting for the things to come in your life and when you look back on the things that came and went you will find that ? again and again. So the answer is, Yes there is a
power, much more than you could ever understand. Your a finite being and your asking the ? of the infinate nature of the universe. AND IT SAYS: I am that I am.

Hope this helps.

 

[MaGilicuti]

I will pray for you...I honestly will. If you die tomorrow and there is a Heaven and a God...what will you tell him. You can laugh and act tough on here, or even in the real world, but what happens if there actually is a God? When you meet him and he asks you why you did and said all of these things...what will you say? Will he laugh and judge you just as you do him? Will he not believe in you?

Hey...maybe there is no God and maybe it is all in my mind...but I have been given the choice to either believe or not believe by conviction. You have not been convicted to believe yet...I pray that you will.

God Bless...and if you have any questions....I will try my best to honestly answer them. Remember that Christianity is based on Faith...not thought or belief. If you do not have faith...then you will not truly believe or understand.

B True

sounds like a reponse from a person who fears death and god. two things he can't control. that is why you must believe in god because otherwise you will feel helpless. realize no one is there and we will die just like everything else.

isn't it wrong to believe just because you are scared you are going to hell? how dare god scare you into loving him. what kind of god is that, why make people love you. if you gave them life and made all this shit we will love regardless.

don't pray for me please, if i do die tomorrow and go to the gates of heavens i'll ask why the fuck didn't he answer any of my prayers and why everything around me has been shit. if god can stand by and watch shit happen then i don't wanna believe in that

 

[MaGilicuti]

I pity you people,one day you will see the light.
The reason god never saved all those poor children and let suffering happen is because,he said we have "FREE WILL"!!!!We did all those bad things to OURSELVES,DONT MAKE HIM FIX IT,because we have free will,FIX THE PROBLEMS YOURSELF.
Why should he even help you if you insult him?
You people piss me off.
GOD IS REAL,DO YOU THINK THE BIBLE WAS MADE UP?
C'mon,get real people.god is real.

that is bullshit man.

getting angry at me? fuck off. the fucking bible is man made. i can make a fucking my own bible and my own religion right now if i wanted to. that proves fucking nothing. the bible was made back in the day to keep peace among the people. when science wasn't that advanced or even started at all and people had to explain where everything has come from. how come all those crazy shits in the bible don't happen now? when we need god the most. if he showed himself just once somehow then the whole world would surely change.

and for hiim giving us free will he gave us shit. he didn't give us that. how do you know that? no shit we have to fix shit ourselves because there is no god. no one is gonna help you except yourself. step out of the brainwashing of your youth and believe for a few minutes there is no god. is it fesible? very much so. much more then there being a god.

 

[thesuperstar]

Believe it or not, religion plays a big part in keeping the world running in a positive direction. It may not be able to cure everything, such as the violence you see on the news everyday, but without it, where would we be?

middle-east, jews and muslim killing each other every day over religion.

ireland, catholics and protestant using car bombs to make a point over religion.

india, muslim and hindus are going to nuke each other over religion.

take the time of the great roman empire, they didnt like chrisitians, so they were killed.

yes, religion sure is positive. are you serious? religion is the source of all violence, since the day of man.

 

[MaGilicuti]

Re: Reasons?

Did you bother to read my post?
I believe because (warning reason coming up) God worked powerfully in my life, doing things that I could never do. Inner strength or not, you don't just get out of withdrawls from a hardcore drug addiction like I had. Ask any doctor. 3 months of being high on opium/crack/cocaine/xanax/pot/shrooms/acid in 4 hit doses no problem. Andy any combination of the above. Granted the xanax on isn't really withdrawl inducing but if you know jack about opium, crack or coccaine especially when your messed up on it for months straight you know you just don't walk away no matter your inner strength. It takes a miracle to do that. Even that aside the complete change in my mind, while there is no way I can prove that I went from being
1. Addicted to drugs
2. Chasing sex constantly
3. Stealing for the fun of it
4. Not caring about others enough to rape somone I loved
5. 150 lb over weight
6. Eating like a pig, even while on crazy amounts of amphetamines
7. Eating shrooms in 7 gram doses and not really noticing much
8. Mastrubating on a very regular basis even while having a normal sex life
9. Fighting for the fun of it

to none of that, and being rather offended at who I used to be and disgusted by so much of who I was.
Laugh, make fun, hate, disbeleive me. Do whatever you want thats the free will part of God's plan. But I beg you listen to what I"m telling you, God is real, He loves you, and the peace he brings can never be taken away.

I mean really you all talk about how its the easy way for weak people. Look around following God isn't the easy way here, I'm argueing with half the board, standing up against the sexual current, and speaking what I know in my heart despite the ridicule it brings. Truely seeking God is not an easy path, but nothing will ever turn me from it.
You are all in my prayers, please let God work in your lives. The reason people can't explain it to you is because God is beyond our words, you can't say how the Holy Spirit feels, or how His love changes you. God calls us to faith, not to a cold calculating religion, its so much deeper than that. Kind of like the difference between having sex with a hooker, and making love to your wife. There is something that that can't be explained only fealt.

i believe you do that man. you did it. you wanted it and you got out of it. god had nothing to do with that shit. no offense but who the fuck are you? like why would god want to save you? why would god put you in harms way in teh first place if he loved you? ask yourself that. you ain't shit and neither am i. or anyone else on this fucking planet. we are just people that's that. people have a hard time accepting they are not special and that they lead meaningless lives. everyone wants to be thought of special and having a purpose. that is just not the case.

i'm glad you got over your drug addictions but all that does not convince me one bit. you did that. god had not one fucking thing to do with it. i don't give a shit what anyone says. isn't it possible for you to get out of it without god? yes. if you started floating around and shit maybe i'd believe but that is just your "believe" that god helped you there. sorry i do'nt buy it