Why do some of you people believe in God??

[All Natural Not Concentr8]

You have the consider the possibility that God does not like you, he never wanted you. In all probability, He hates you. This is not the worst thing that can happen. We don't need Him. Fuck damnation, man. Fuck redemption. We are God's unwanted children? So be it.

Did you bother to read my post?
I believe because (warning reason coming up) God worked powerfully in my life, doing things that I could never do. Inner strength or not, you don't just get out of withdrawls from a hardcore drug addiction like I had. Ask any doctor. 3 months of being high on opium/crack/cocaine/xanax/pot/shrooms/acid in 4 hit doses no problem. Andy any combination of the above. Granted the xanax on isn't really withdrawl inducing but if you know jack about opium, crack or coccaine especially when your messed up on it for months straight you know you just don't walk away no matter your inner strength. It takes a miracle to do that. Even that aside the complete change in my mind, while there is no way I can prove that I went from being
1. Addicted to drugs
2. Chasing sex constantly
3. Stealing for the fun of it
4. Not caring about others enough to rape somone I loved
5. 150 lb over weight
6. Eating like a pig, even while on crazy amounts of amphetamines
7. Eating shrooms in 7 gram doses and not really noticing much
8. Mastrubating on a very regular basis even while having a normal sex life
9. Fighting for the fun of it

to none of that, and being rather offended at who I used to be and disgusted by so much of who I was.
Laugh, make fun, hate, disbeleive me. Do whatever you want thats the free will part of God's plan. But I beg you listen to what I"m telling you, God is real, He loves you, and the peace he brings can never be taken away.

I mean really you all talk about how its the easy way for weak people. Look around following God isn't the easy way here, I'm argueing with half the board, standing up against the sexual current, and speaking what I know in my heart despite the ridicule it brings. Truely seeking God is not an easy path, but nothing will ever turn me from it.
You are all in my prayers, please let God work in your lives. The reason people can't explain it to you is because God is beyond our words, you can't say how the Holy Spirit feels, or how His love changes you. God calls us to faith, not to a cold calculating religion, its so much deeper than that. Kind of like the difference between having sex with a hooker, and making love to your wife. There is something that that can't be explained only fealt.

It's only after we've lost everything, that we're free to do anything.

Quotes from Tyler

 

[b fold the truth]

I do want to say that I think that everyone on here has posted good points...from both sides. I will once again say, at attempt to say, that I do not have the answers and can not explain everything to anyone...I simply do not know the answers.

MaGilicuti- I appreciate your reply. I understand where you are comming from. I have turned my back on God before...I had a girlfriend be killed in a car wreck while on her way to see me from another state. Why? I found out that I was deathly ill. Why? I lost my friends. Why? There was so much that went wrong in my life...that I could not understand why anyone or anything would put all of this on me. I still do not understand as I still carry many burdens of health and sorrow. I wish that I could answer that question for you...but I can not. I guess that you have prayed to God before. Was it serious, honest, and with faith? Honestly...think about it. Was it for the benefit of yourself and others? I have done that before...and had people taken away from me right in my arms...I can not explain it at all....

I am not afraid of Hell. I don't plan on going there. Being a great person and nice and sweet will not get you into Heaven I do not believe. All that you must do is believe...truly believe in your heart. Well...as far as I and many other people know...who really knows?

If you have any questions...I probably can not answer them...but I will try my best.

B True

 

[MaGilicuti]

I refuse to believe out of fear. I think if there was god he wouldn't want you to believe just out of fear as well. He wants you to believe because you believe in him. Back in the day they probably set it up like that. Scaring people into the church. I just don't agree with religion right now. I think my prayers were fine, never answered. Sometimes you need outside help, so called god, and he was never there for me so.

 

[decem]

DO YOU THINK THE BIBLE WAS MADE UP?

yes dude.. it was..

 

[FrankRizzo]

I find that I am closest to God when I am handling poisonous rattle snakes.

 

[nuh_mizer]

We measure the passage of time by the death of his son. Whether you believe in God or not, you still call this year 2001 A.D. (A.D. meaning after the death of Christ). The whole world uses the time of his death to reference the year. That fact alone should make you at least consider that God exists.

 

[Weapon X]

I believe that this question should be between every person and whatever concept they have of God/Goddess/Higher Self/Money/Sex/etc.
It's a vitally important question, and noone can convince another.

 

[elijah]

There is always the option

For everyone who is convinced there is no God, I feel genuine pity for you, and hope you'll change before its to late. There is nothing anyone can do to convince you to believe if you don't listen and look for the smallest reason to dis believe.

The bible is made up huh? There's an interesting concept, there are 98,000 plus partial sections of the new testament alone. Not to mention the incredible number of Old Testament scriptures, all carbon dated to different times. Whoever made this up had one heck of a conspiracy going.

For the scientifically minded, I would be intrested to know how you can explain us being here. If you subscribe to the big bang theory thats truely sad. I mean really how much more believable is that compared to God making it all. Even from a strictly logical stand point all the matter being in something the size of a proton... yeah right so what was around said proton. If you can say nothing and your mind can TRUELY grasp nothing than you are the only human being able to do such a thing. Along these lines I offer human dependability. 2000 years ago the earth was flat, a grain of sand was as small as it got, and the sun rotated around the earth. Or you can believe God's plan which has been in place since the begining, whenever that was (I don't believe dinasours *sp* are outside the bible, or evolving to a certain extent)

Also if we were so random, math dictates that there WOULD be another civilization, much older/more advanced then us. Actually a huge number of them, yet no sign of em how odd. Especially considering the huge amount of radio/tv/microwave "trash" our planet emits we should expect something, and many people do expect find that proof yet still nothing. There is another theory down the drain.

To magi
i'm sorry but you didnt' move me one bit with your comments. i seriously wanna believe but no one has proven to me that there is god. and i don't understand how you can believe or have faith in something and not tell me why you do. all you guys say is you just do and think about it. that doesn't make sense at all

Very contradicting ideas there, you want proof of something so you can have faith. As defined by Decem (non believer) thats impossible, maybe thats why you can't find a relationship with God.

 

[bodytemple75]

I personally feel that the figment ",God," is all ",man-made," as well as religion. I am by no way badmouthing them both,... just prefer not (personally)to be involved with either one or share the same views. I highly doubt this to be even remotely feasable,(as credible or possible as there being a Santa at the North pole)...but", if, ' there were such a being,... I personlly,...would not wish to be with, or around it/him/her, in the afterlife. I think that (for arguemetal sake) he would have to be a pretty warped, and sick being to have all these special powers, and offer no help,..not even consolement for us as a people. Yet, he supposedly just watches all of us fom afar...Watches wth all this ",supreme power," and hangs out while the rest of the world suffers, and fight wars, and even kill, starve, all his name. Serious problem there... Some people try to convert "non-believers," so bad,...and want them to believe, so bad,.. that it is scary-like sometimes, ...even weird. Sometimes it really makes you think, are they really trying to help you, or just looking to further their own ajenda in some way or another by either getting money from you,(in ",God's," name) using your newfound faith to help convince themselves of faith, or whaever. Take your pic...Take a good look at the ",real," world of today, and you tell me religion and ",God," is all forthe beter. Sure it scares people into controlled belief, and somewhat order, but has it really helped? Look at how many have killed and died? Churches, just want your cash nowaday. They actuallyhave the balls to send a mailer to your home,..."telling you," how much you should...ehem....",donate," out of yur paycheck every month, due to what you make! WTF?! Yeah,...",God's followers..(lol) To each his own... Do whatever makes you happy, I say,..and be good to others who are to you, and you will be fine. Always love, and take care of your family above ",everything." They are ",truly," there for you, love you, and you can depend on them only......without having to give a daily donation, or waiting for an answer talking to a marble statue on a cross forever. When I die I want to be with my family, loved ones, and friends,...and others too. Not with this ",God."

BELIEVE IN YOURSELF!!!

Oh yeah, this was real loving,....

If we were bad on Earth, (bullshit things,... not killed or anything like that)and not believd in him, we would have to suffer ",God's,"punishment and wrath in heaven!"

I'll pass...

I heard that on one of these posts, in some form or another quoted by a ",believer."



Isin't that so loving?... WTF!!??

I apoligize to everyone who is a good peson and happens to truly be a believer in "God/religion," but I am just fed up with having this stuff shoved down my throught all the time, since I do not believe,...by persistant aggressive ",followers," who claim they do everything justified in this entitie's name. Since I do not believe and find the whole concept as ",dicredible," I do respect you all for having your beliefs, as well as having none. I apoligize for the sarchasm on/ towards your belief. This was just based on my opinion, and from what I do know from ",religion/God," concept/beliefs.


P.S. There is nothing another human being can do do alter my way of thinking on this matter. My guess is as credible, or as good for that matter as anyone else's. Being a believer or not... Everything is connected with/ on opinion here when it comes to religion, along with written books that were made by man. Nobody living knows for definate. AllI can say in closing is,....Get ",God," to pay me a visit in person,...then I'll think about changing my way of thinking,"....till then don't bother asking what will make me believe. there is nothing else. There it is...

 

[MaGilicuti]

bump for all those god fearing people out there. i guess no one is changing anyone's minds here. the bible IS manmade, they did have a lot of time to make that shit up back in the day. religion was made to keep peace back in the day, that is all there is too it. why isn't religion as important as it was back then? simply because we have no need for it anymore. the only NEED we have for it now is ppl who have no hope. when they need help from an outside source they call upon god for motivation.