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why do ppl say EQ is useless

Stacked with other compounds its not useless. Obviously something most people wouldn't advise as a standalone. I think it has its place for hardening up gains.
 
been trolling around on other forums and see ppl saying eq is useless why do they say that?

Generally when someone says running EQ is useless its because the person wanting to run it is only planning on taking it for about 6-8 weeks. In which case it is pretty much useless.
 
what do you guys think about test 500mg EQ 600mg for like 15 weeks? thinking about doing this for my next cycle to harden up and cut slowly.
 
I think your nads will be shut down hard. :)

i did a 13 weeker with 500mg of test and beastdrol kicker and epi finisher. 250iu hcg x2 a week for the last 10 weeks.

2 months after i got bloods done and my test was 790


young endocrine system i guess lol.
 
400mg of EQ is the norm you get more sides with the more you use.. if you never used it before i would not recommend that high for first time
 
I think that most peeps dont really know how to run it. Dont know the proper time span. Dont know what to run with it and dont know that the more lean you are the better Eq tends to work, meaning the effects are more pronounced.
 
400mg of EQ is the norm you get more sides with the more you use.. if you never used it before i would not recommend that high for first time

the eq im gonna use is 300mg so i figured id just do 600 to make it easy. i can not be lazy and do less though.


i saw no neg sides at 500mg of test. anyone think i should maybe go a little higher and see how it goes? maybe 750 test 400eq?
 
I think that most peeps dont really know how to run it. Dont know the proper time span. Dont know what to run with it and dont know that the more lean you are the better Eq tends to work, meaning the effects are more pronounced.

here to learn my man.


i am an easy gainer but ive never really leaned out and got super tight with my diet. im not lazy so i can do what needs to be done but i really just dont know what that is. wondering what kind of macros would work good for a slow cut of 15 weeks.
 
It's never really appealed to me.. gains are slow and minimal compared to other compounds and eq sides aren't exactly mild.. fuck eq. Lol
 
I ran it my last cycle at 600mg my last cycle with 500mgs test e. Ran both for 14 weeks. I planned on going 16 weeks but just felt like I needed to come off. I was bulking and put on about 15 lbs. I liked it ok but probably wouldn't run it again unless I planned to stay on for a while.

Takes forever to feel it.
 
EQ is far from useless, it gives you excellent masucularity look, if yur eating clean and training hard huge vein increase all over your body, i commonly take EQ when cutting even on keto ! I run EQ right up to competition day its great for lean mass. Sure it doesnt get the raving mass and size results that people claim they get from deca but EQ is a lot more solid muscle and alot less water weight, a lot of people run deca and EQ together in their cycle mix and get great gains for y last bulk before competition il give deca and Eq a go together I think. But EQ is far from useless it has to be one of my favourite injectables
 
in response to the OP, 1)because they either did not use it properly 2)and/or have unrealistic expectations of the drug, 3)and/or have used stronger androgens previously.

If you're running it with more powerful androgens (including test) you have to use more of it due to superior AR competition from the other molecule. Also, unless you attached your own ester, you're using undeclynate which provides a very long half-life. You should frontload your dose to get you up and running, then back it down by the start of week 4.
 
in response to the OP, 1)because they either did not use it properly 2)and/or have unrealistic expectations of the drug, 3)and/or have used stronger androgens previously.

If you're running it with more powerful androgens (including test) you have to use more of it due to superior AR competition from the other molecule. Also, unless you attached your own ester, you're using undeclynate which provides a very long half-life. You should frontload your dose to get you up and running, then back it down by the start of week 4.

Also i would like to add some run it with Deca, Bad Idea Since EQ makes you hard & vascular the bloat from the deca over rides it ,so its mostly wasted, Back in the Days when this site first got up & running Alot of members were running EQ alone at 300mgs for 16 weeks, They didn't put on alot of muscle but they completely succeded in changing their body composition.
 
I am gonna run 600mg EQ later on. With test and possibly deca + cabergoline...
 
Also i would like to add some run it with Deca, Bad Idea Since EQ makes you hard & vascular the bloat from the deca over rides it ,so its mostly wasted, Back in the Days when this site first got up & running Alot of members were running EQ alone at 300mgs for 16 weeks, They didn't put on alot of muscle but they completely succeded in changing their body composition.

You run caber and a-dex and you be bloat free :D..
Theoretically right? rofl
 
Yes, But you know some think its a good idea without doing research.I hope you're doing the EQ at least 14 weeks.

I am running it 15 weeks, and on HCG.
 
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