whose planetary system is this?

[foreigngirl]

 

[Lestat]

Testicules?

 

[PBR]

the sun is in the center of mine.....

 

[beefcake28]

Ptolemy

 

[beefcake28]

someone religious that's for sure. thinking the earth was the center of the universe... bah.

WTF is with all the religion bashing going on here lately? Seriously. Many of the ancient "intellectuals" (Plato, etc...) thought the Earth was the center of everything... Copernicus was the first to propose that the earth and planets revolved around the sun in an essay referred to as the Commentariolus in 1514, and later wrote a fuller account, which emerged as De revolutionibus orbium coelestium, which wasn't published until his death in 1543. That means everyone prior to this believed the Earth was the center... not just a few crazy religious people.

 

[foreigngirl]

WTF is with all the religion bashing going on here lately? Seriously. Many of the ancient "intellectuals" thought the Earth was the center of everything... before we knew better.

lol....yeah, I was thinking exactly the same after reading Lestats post

 

[Lestat]

WTF is with all the religion bashing going on here lately? Seriously. Many of the ancient "intellectuals" thought the Earth was the center of everything... before we knew better.

there is a famous story about how they gallileo was taken to the bottom of the church, where there just happened to be a torture chamber, and told to take back all his teachings or they'd torture him.

 

[beefcake28]

there is a famous story about how they gallileo was taken to the bottom of the church, where there just happened to be a torture chamber, and told to take back all his teachings or they'd torture him.

In 1633 Galileo was formally interrogated for 18 days and on April 30 Galileo confesses that he may have made the Copernican case in the Dialogue too strong and offers to refute it in his next book. Unmoved, the Pope decides that Galileo should be imprisoned indefinitely. Soon after, with a formal threat of torture, Galileo is examined by the Inquisition and sentenced to prison and religious penances, the sentence is signed by 6 of the 10 inquisitors. In a formal ceremony at a the church of Santa Maria Sofia Minerva, Galileo abjures his errors. He is then put in house arrest in Sienna. After these tribulations he begins writing his Discourse on Two New Sciences.

Galileo remained under house arrest, despite many medical problems and a deteriorating state of health, until his death in 1642. The Catholic Church finally accepted that Galileo might be right in 1983.

 

[foreigngirl]

there is a famous story about how they gallileo was taken to the bottom of the church, where there just happened to be a torture chamber, and told to take back all his teachings or they'd torture him.

true, but religious fanatics of that time were not drawing planetary systems. Plus, this model is made before even christianity became a religion

 

[Lestat]

true, but religious fanatics of that time were not drawing planetary systems. Plus, this model is made before even christianity became a religion

ok, I retract my earlier statement.

 

[beefcake28]

true, but religious fanatics of that time were not drawing planetary systems. Plus, this model is made before even christianity became a religion

More specifically, it was the Catholic church, not Christians in general.

 

[Lestat]

More specifically, it was the Catholic church, not Christians in general.

agreed. But at that time, wasn't the catholic church the only church? Protestant secs were not around then.

 

[foreigngirl]

ok, I retract my earlier statement.

ok





Beefcake - yeap, it was all deeds of the Catholic church. Thats why the Bogomils and Cathars saw the Pope as the devil, not as a man of god

 

[foreigngirl]

agreed. But at that time, wasn't the catholic church the only church? Protestant secs were not around then.

there was catholic, orthodox, bogomils, cathars, maybe some more heretic groups (as the catholic church called them)

 

[Lestat]

there was catholic, orthodox, bogomils, cathars, maybe some more heretic groups (as the catholic church called them)

bogomils and cathars? they were christian?

 

[beefcake28]

agreed. But at that time, wasn't the catholic church the only church? Protestant secs were not around then.

No. There were many people that followed the teachings of the apostles and scriptures (among other religious groups as well), that were not part of the Catholic church. Nowhere in the bible does it mention the Pope, bishops, and all that... much less the need to follow them. The Catholic church was, however, the main political infulence of the time, and most people adhered to that sort of structured belief system.

 

[DieselGunz]

Damn i am learning alot in this thread

 

[foreigngirl]

bogomils and cathars? they were christian?

kinda. They beleived in two gods - evil one and a good one. According to them, stories in the Old Testament are describing a vengefull, selfish god that doesnt really do good for the people. Bogomils and Cathars believed only in the New Testament, sometimes practicing only few gospels from there. They saw the pope as the devil, they didnt beleive in going to church and praying to icons, but rather pray at home or any other place.

 

[Frisky]

I am the CENTER of the universe!

well, only on the days that end in Y

 

[spongebob]

yea but what does it all mean basil?

 

[Lestat]

informative thread, thanks guys.

 

[beefcake28]

informative thread, thanks guys.

Always glad to help when I can...

 

[Mr. dB]

Ptolemy

Ptui

 

[blut wump]

But still it moves.

 

[samoth]

Good thread. Very informative.

A+

 

[BrothaBill]

The Vagans, watched that longass movie and the goddam aliens was her goddam father