I suffered a terrible crash a couple years ago after taking EQ 300 mg/wk along with sust 250 mg/wk from weeks 1-10 weeks. Then I took winny at 50 mg/day from weeks 7-12. Gained a lean-rock hard 20 pounds and was vascular, but the crash was awful. I mentally prepared myself for it bc I was told it could happen, but psychologically I felt terrible. I would prefer primo or deca over EQ even though EQ makes you vascular and hard. I didn't lose anything post cycle, but mentally the crash made me feel as if I was getting weaker and smaller by the day, but I wasn't. Started the clomid 3 wks after my last shot of EQ and sust and even used arimidex at 1/2 tab/ed throughout and continued to use it during the clomid therapy. It took a good 6-8 wks to feel normal again. I've stayed away from EQ every since and am hesitent to use it again.