Who feels bodybuilding has ruined strength training in America??

[SofaGeorge]

Now hold on... it's not like those magazines taught anybody how to properly bodybuild either.

The popular bodybuilding media is a source of misinformation for any kind of athlete.

 

[BigBadBootyDaddy29]

Bump...I want to hear everyone's take on this.....even bodybuilders, whether you agree or disagree.

 

[BigBadBootyDaddy29]

Sofa, I agree with what you said 100%. Actually, BB mags serve no purpose but to screw up young kids and newbies, and sell them their shitty supplements. They pulled the plug on Joe Camel in advertising, they ought to pull the plug on muscle tech, those ads have fucked up many a young reader.

 

[JOKER47]

Joker, I agree with what you said about the public's perception of what a person who works out "should" look like. I find that as a whole, the general public doesn't know a lot of detail about ANYTHING. But, I was mainly referring to how BB publications have set back sport-specific training and strength training, even powerlifting in the US.

For example, college kids are home for the summer, and a lot of them joined up at the gym where I work out at. A good deal of them play football. The one guy is an O-lineman at a D 3 school, and he was doing hammer strength inclines and pec deck. Not because he is a shit head, but because he simply doesn't know any better because he prolly picked up a FLEX magazine and saw a big strapping stud like Chris Cormier doing it, and his coaches grew up reading the weider principles an they know no better. The fucking pec deck is to bring out detail and striations in a pre-contest BB, the ONLY reason a football player has to even touch a pec deck is if he trips and falls and uses it to catch his balance.

Seriously, If strength training publications were made as widely available as BB mags, and if O-lifting and powerlifting were more mainstream, I think this could change. I look at training programs from the fucking 1950's and 60's and they're more sound than the crap a lot of people are doing these days. I honestly feel BB has fucked up strength training and sport-specific training and caused it to regress.

By "media" I was including magazines as well. They too, end up conforning to what the public wants. Or what the public views. They are in it for the money.

I still don't think that it has ruined strength training. Strength training is not in the public eye like "fitness" is. Again, I believe that that is due to the media publishing whatever the general population is interested in. In this case, the general population wants to "Look Good". They believe that if they look like the models on the covers of magazines, they will get the girl/guy and all will be right with the world. Because that is what the magazines sell to them.



Another .02,
Joker

 

[Lord_Suston]

Bodybuilding has not IMO ruined strength training. Now I know everyone is gonna start flaming but just listen first. It is mostly the mags and the promotional stuff that goes with BB that ruins strength training.

On another hand you have to look at who is being ruined. People want size over strength so they chose to read mags and follow horrendous routines. I personally think strength training has come a long way and much further to go. Many pros are strong compared to the average joe but compared to powerlifters they don't even come close. But the fact is they don't train for strength.

I just don't get why someone who wants strength would follow a bb routine . IMO it is the public that has ruined strength training, this includes many coaches as well

 

[IronLion]

Now hold on... it's not like those magazines taught anybody how to properly bodybuild either.

The popular bodybuilding media is a source of misinformation for any kind of athlete.

This is an important point and it is well taken. In the beginning there was a fear from the general public that if you lifted weights you would become muscle bound. So people were scared of real strength training. This hype actually was created by the bodybuilders of the time like Charles Atlas. The reason being: they knew that full weight sets like the ones Charles had actually used to grow could not be sold around the country because of the expense of shipping and their target demographic didn't have the kind of buying power it would take anyway. They went after insecure teens who were below average in size. They sold a chart of exersizes and a spring like mechanism saying that that was how Charles Atlas built his physique, that weights would not work and make you bulky. Thus you had the beginning of modern day bodybuilding business. They use people who look amazing to market products and routines that are cheapest and easiest to make because they know that most people will be ignorant enough to buy it.

Hope you enjoyed my rant you skinny 90 pound weakling, now don't get sand kicked in your face......buy my brand and get the girl's

 

[revexrevex]

WOw I've re-read that last line 5 times, and even though you explained it all in previous paragraph I was like wow, who wouldn't be intimidated by that

 

[JOKER47]

I will think of it as a modern-day Charles Atlas ad, and get a laugh out of it.

Hadn't thought of it that way........



Joker

 

[BigBadBootyDaddy29]

That was a pretty cool history lesson Iron. Those Charles Atlas ads were classic, I get a kick out of them. So, the next time I see a Muscle Tech ad, I am not gonna get pissed off, I will think of it as a modern-day Charles Atlas ad, and get a laugh out of it.

 

[IronLion]

that is pretty much what I do

kinda like:

Charles Atlas/Exercise Chart = Free weights

Lee Preist/Nitro tech (Nieve Tech) = Huge amounts of aas/growth hormone