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which cycle is more effective
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cobracock1979
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polebot said:
Use clomid for pct if you use tren - no nolva - would increase the tren to about 350 ew. Thats just me tho. Never tried var
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SpyWizard said:
well i wont be getting anavar anymore do to lack of funds.
and this would be my second cycle.first cycle was dianabol and test.so what can i expect with the test cypionate and tren enanthate cycle? hows water retention with such a cycle?
and again why no nolva with tren?
I would suggest Education:
What are your goals? How many cycles have you run? what are your stats?
etc., etc.
Also do your own research IN DEPTH so that when some one tells you to take Nolva or Clomid with a nandrolone you will know THEY don't have a clue.
The AI's of today are Adex, Aromasin, Letro and HCG.
Nolva and Clomid went out with Limp Biskit.
Tren is for experienced AAS users only.
What are your goals? How many cycles have you run? what are your stats?
etc., etc.
Also do your own research IN DEPTH so that when some one tells you to take Nolva or Clomid with a nandrolone you will know THEY don't have a clue.
The AI's of today are Adex, Aromasin, Letro and HCG.
Nolva and Clomid went out with Limp Biskit.
Tren is for experienced AAS users only.
polebot
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halfcenturian said:
god i hated limp bizkit! ive actually done alot of research but its kinda hard to understand alot of it (for me anyway) the only things i can grasp from my research is what steroids do what.i may not be up to date with whats good to use since i am a beginner and am trying to learn as much as i can.i wish i would have found this place a while back before i even did my first cycle of dianabol and test.and i made mistakes when i did my first cycle and wish i had this board to come to when i did.i only listened to my friend whos had experience (so i thought was smart enough to listen to) and i just trusted his advice.didnt even do a pct.except for milk thistle and some estro blocker i bought from some supplement store.but now i believe im getting on a much better track (thanks to this board and helpful members).i am doing constant research and trying to understand as much as i can.
my stats at the moment
6'4 215lbs
i dont know my bf.but high enough to not have visible abs.
my goal is to be a solid 235-240.Bf goals wont be made til i figure out what it is.but in the long run i would like it to be below 10%.
anything else you need to know to help me out? maybe a website i can read up on that has info on what i need to know.my main issue is understanding what goes with what.
Old enough to shave?... Vote?... Drink?.....Number-0-cycles?.... AAS used?
Rock 'N Rap fusion ?.... NAHHHH!
Rock 'N Rap fusion ?.... NAHHHH!
needtogetaas
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The one you work the hardest to get the best gains out of.polebot said:
polebot
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halfcenturian said:Old enough to shave?... Vote?... Drink?.....Number-0-cycles?.... anabolic androgenic steroids used?
Rock 'N Rap fusion ?.... NAHHHH!
im 22.and have a full beard.i dont like shaving...and i already stated what cycle ive been on.
well ive decided that im going to go with the test cypionate and tren enanthate.i wont be starting until i can find some Arimidex or something else that is okay to use with a nandrolone.as well as HCG.the only pct i have available to me is nolva and clomid but since i was advised against those will be searching for something else.
my knowledge of steroids may be underdeveloped compared to the experienced users of this forum but thats why i am here.im still researching on everything i can.im sure this next cycle will be my last anyway.i just hope i dont get hooked on how good it feels.my training and dieting is very good.i am a certified trainer and have all the skills i need when it comes to building myself naturally.my genetics arent that great so thats why i wanted to try steroids to get more out of my body.
polebot said:
OK. Cool. You will should get great results.
You know the Tren sides can be harsh...less with Enth. then Ace.
You will need to take Casaber .5mg E3D for prolactin issues, and sex drive.
I would suggest Letro with tren as an AI.
And of course HCG twice a week starting at week 4....250iu's twice a week.
Lift like you are Ronnie Coleman.
Eat like a family of 4.
7-8 hours of sleep/night
NO CARBS after 5pm to help with night sweats.
Best of luck bro.
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the elite addict
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tren is the best compound next to test. Tren all the way.
sugashane
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I'm 6'3", was 6'1" and 130-something. I know how you feel.
Even though the cycle isn't massive or long, IMO you should run HCG and do arimidex with either cycle, but if you don't have SET goals in mind than don't do a cycle. Thats like buying a vehicle when you don't know what you want from it. (MPG, horsepower, ect)
Even though the cycle isn't massive or long, IMO you should run HCG and do arimidex with either cycle, but if you don't have SET goals in mind than don't do a cycle. Thats like buying a vehicle when you don't know what you want from it. (MPG, horsepower, ect)
polebot
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sugashane said:
i definately have set goals.but when it comes to my bf i dont have a goal since i dont know where its at.i will be going to a university to figure it out before i start of course,they have the under water test.other than that i have my PRs in mind and i know i want to make it to 240.im at 215 now.biggest ive been is 225
sugashane
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polebot said:
Thats good then. Yeah hydrostatic weighing is the most exact. If you don't want to wait that long, bioelectrical impedence machines are easy to use and a lot of gyms have them. They're pretty accurate too. I don't like the exhaling while underwater with the HS weighing, I get anxious. lol
Good luck with your goals, in a short time you've made great progress too. Train that hard and you'll grow like a weed.
cyp and enth are the same thing.
cobracock1979
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polebot said:
No Bro, Clomid is fine for PCT 50mged 4 weeks- just dont use nolva. I would run the HCG from mid cycle, 500iu twice a week up till PCT.
Others prefer to start HCG in PCT but for me it makes sense to stop atrophy happening, rather than allow it then reverse it.
cobracock1979 said:
It's not "fine" for a lot of people. Clomid can cause PMS like symtoms in men. It makes me very anxious, moody, almost bi-polar. Yes it works, but why risk feeling like a bitch on the rag???
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