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clanabis

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Hi, I'd like to formally introduce my noobness to the board.

M-5"11-265-33yrs old (Big Boned)

Some Background: I'm a former U.S. paratrooper who mysteriously morphed into a pathetic tub of gelatin over the last ten years. I suspect the strain of starting a family and trying to keep the bills paid may have had something to do with this remarkable transformation. Ahhh who the hell am I kidding? Twinkies, chili dogs, soda pop, and mostly laziness are to blame but I digress. At one time could bench around 315lbs. and squat around 450lbs. and run 2 miles in 12 minutes while weighing about 215. I was pretty much your average combat ready jump school goon.

Currently: I've been working hard at the gym to regain some former glory and most importantly the happiness I will need to bring in a 40th birthday without having a "goodnight sweet prince" revolver in my nightstand ready to rock incase the depression of being a pathetic miserable fat f*** is too much to bare.

I have lost some flab and have been feeling hard a strong and have been mixing in cardio for 30 minutes 4 or 5 times a week. My diet is far from perfect but alot better than it has been. I've been drinking whey protien shakes in the morning, carbs around workout time, and things like tuna fish or turkey sandwiches and protien shakes the rest of the day. My rules are simple; No sweets, carbs only right before I plan to be active, and protein anytime and frequently.

Goals:First and foremost I want to feel good and be as confident as my mind and body will allow my soul to be. In order to achieve this confidence it wouldn't hurt to make my abs visible through this disgusting flabalanche that I call my belly. It's not terrible but unsightly to say the least but getting better everyday. Naturally(poor choice of words), I also am ready to pack on some quality muscle and strength on what I already have.

Situation and Questions I have 2000mg of oxandrogen(anavar hopefully) and some nolva to add to my supplemantation in the coming months.
First, at what point of my conditioning should I start a cycle? Like I said, I'm 260 but literally big boned 8.5 inches around the wrist. I'm probably around 25% body fat maybe more. I could probably make some natural strength gains still but having the cycle in my possession may be too tempting plus I want to be the best I can be by summer not to mention the motivational reasons for getting good workouts.
Second, I'm pretty sure gyno is an issue with me, since puberty I've had puffy nips and I've never even done steroids before. With this history would Nolva be an option throughout the cycle or should I save it for the PCT after I have an idea after fat loss how big the problem actually is?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions,
clanabis
 
Anavar will NOT cause you to have any gyno issues. However please state you current weight, height, age and goals. Oh and the most important thing is post your diet on a daily basis
 
Var ain;t gonna do shit. It would be like adding expensive polish to an old rusty dirty car. You have to get your training in order first. There are also some good supps that will help.

Get the vehicle in top condition before adding gear. Learn more about gear. You dont even know that Var and nolva would never be used together.

Stick around. There's a lot to learn. If you're serious, you will.
 
Var ain;t gonna do shit. It would be like adding expensive polish to an old rusty dirty car. You have to get your training in order first. There are also some good supps that will help.

Get the vehicle in top condition before adding gear. Learn more about gear. You dont even know that Var and nolva would never be used together.

Stick around. There's a lot to learn. If you're serious, you will.

I can handle the old a rusty, but the dirty made me want to smack you where you stand sir!

Anyways, I'm not trying to be pro, I just wants some strength added, some fat lost, and I want the process expidited. So oxandrogen will not help me at all unless I can get to peak natural condition first? Is that what you're saying?

Also, I'e been reading that nolva will help with gyno whether you are on gear or not. This nolva thing is of interest to me whether or not I choose to use Oxandrogen. My puffy nipples have been a source of embarrassement for as long as I can remember, I think it has even altered my posture.

I'm trying to post my pic for an avatar but the upload keeps failing, I'll figure it out eventually.
 
So oxandrogen will not help me at all unless I can get to peak natural condition first? Is that what you're saying?


That is exactly what he is saying. To be honest, Anavar should only be ran with a bodyfat around 10%. That is where you see the gold.

For right now, you should focus on your diet and workout routine. Post them up in the correct sections so we can help you.
 
That is exactly what he is saying. To be honest, Anavar should only be ran with a bodyfat around 10%. That is where you see the gold.

For right now, you should focus on your diet and workout routine. Post them up in the correct sections so we can help you.

but seeing the magic and feeling the magic are two different things.

If I start now will I "feel" the magic?
 
you might feel the magic, but you wont see the magic at that high of a bf.
better to get down naturally first then consider your options
 
you might feel the magic, but you wont see the magic at that high of a bf.
better to get down naturally first then consider your options

Thanks,

I'm starting to see that I have alot of potential naturally to consider before anavar will be needed to get me over a proverbial hump. I was also interested in Anavar's fat cutting qualities, I partly acquired it for this reason. I mean strength is great but fat melting off at a higher rate than normal is a pretty tempting side effect of taking this product even though I could've found a cheaper way to do it but what the heck. Either way, I'm bumping the cardio up and tweaking the diet to get this shit off of me.
 
I can handle the old a rusty, but the dirty made me want to smack you where you stand sir!

Anyways, I'm not trying to be pro, I just wants some strength added, some fat lost, and I want the process expidited. So oxandrogen will not help me at all unless I can get to peak natural condition first? Is that what you're saying?

Also, I'e been reading that nolva will help with gyno whether you are on gear or not. This nolva thing is of interest to me whether or not I choose to use Oxandrogen. My puffy nipples have been a source of embarrassement for as long as I can remember, I think it has even altered my posture.

I'm trying to post my pic for an avatar but the upload keeps failing, I'll figure it out eventually.

It's called an analogy. Don't get off on the wrong foot bro.
 
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