What's your take on nice guy's finishing last?

[seizer]

I think it's because ( as stated eariler) it seeems like they think they will be able to change him and turn him in to a better person.

I guess it's just the reverse of a guy going the girl who is in need.

 

[hanselthecaretaker]

american males have forgotten how to do that. Esp. in today's age of EMO.

You lost me.....what's EMO?

 

[heatherrae]

A man of quality simply must wait until he finds a match and/or young women grow up more. I watch so many young women turn their backs on a "good guy" because he is not exciting or dangerous. They make a train wreck of their lives. If they go too far, no man with character will want them, especially if they have children by a bum.

"Messed up women" can be fascinating with almost a siren draw to them. I learned the hard way to look, but not touch. Marrying them is a sure path to your personal and financial destruction.

Wait ... have patience ... frequent places that women of substance go to ... be forgiving of past mistakes if real change has taken place ... look at women from other cultures or countries ... look at care givers, nurses, waitresses.

While you wait, go ahead and give of yourself TO A LIMIT. Then, stop. You may be looking at a person in great need that you can not help ... a person who will run back to the tough guy who beats her.

Finish last? Not really. Who really lost?

Wow! Wisest advice I've heard on this board, so far. So true.

 

[seizer]

Wow! Wisest advice I've heard on this board, so far. So true.

You know the lion from "The Lion, the Witch and the wardrobe"


...that's him...

 

[digimon7068]

My training partner is 23 yoa and single. He has a college degree, played sports in college and is still jacked, he owns a couple of businesses and makes good money for a young kid, his dad died unexpectedly a couple of years ago and so, he helps his mom pay his brother and sister's college tuition, he's one of the nicest people that I've ever met (probably explains his success in business) and he looks like Brad Pitt before he got friggin weird. . . my wife and all her friends just think he's adorable.

He's been shelved by three different women in the last couple of months. He looks to me for advice cause I'm an old married geezer but I still remember what it was like to be 23 and I recently told him that maybe he was being a little too nice. He's been acting a little more aloof lately. . .I'll let you know how that works out.

 

[Delinquent]

You lost me.....what's EMO?

EMO = http://www.bofunk.com/video/2675/you_must_be_emo.html

 

[biteme]

they always do,one day bro a good girl will come along,thats what I truly believe,id rather spend this time alone then with the wrong girls making all kinds of mistakes just to fill time

You;ll be far more likely to have a successful marriage if you wait until the woman is 30. They go through too many changes. Heck, might even want to wait until they're 50 and desperate. LOL

 

[seizer]

My training partner is 23 yoa and single. He has a college degree, played sports in college and is still jacked, he owns a couple of businesses and makes good money for a young kid, his dad died unexpectedly a couple of years ago and so, he helps his mom pay his brother and sister's college tuition, he's one of the nicest people that I've ever met (probably explains his success in business) and he looks like Brad Pitt before he got friggin weird. . . my wife and all her friends just think he's adorable.

He's been shelved by three different women in the last couple of months. He looks to me for advice cause I'm an old married geezer but I still remember what it was like to be 23 and I recently told him that maybe he was being a little too nice. He's been acting a little more aloof lately. . .I'll let you know how that works out.

Being nice has done him really well in his life, it doesnt make sense to change for women.

Everybody loves nice people. If you're nice to people, they cant argue with you, infact, they come to you, feed off what you got. With the women though, (with regards to you friend) I'm guessing, they probably get a little better treatment because he's trying to form a relation with him (which makes sense), but I'm gonna say they abuse the great character that he has to offer. That's what people do when the circumstances are too much in their favour. They cant control themselves and they cant make the best of the situation. The most wholesome person is usually the one to lose the most.

 

[megamania500]

I'll say it once, and I'll say it again: be too nice to a woman, and she interprets that as kissing her ass. A woman isn't going to respect any man who kisses her ass. And a woman certainly isn't going to have wild, passionate desires for any man she doesn't respect.
In a woman's eyes: too nice=spineless

 

[velvett]

My training partner is 23 yoa and single. He has a college degree, played sports in college and is still jacked, he owns a couple of businesses and makes good money for a young kid, his dad died unexpectedly a couple of years ago and so, he helps his mom pay his brother and sister's college tuition, he's one of the nicest people that I've ever met (probably explains his success in business) and he looks like Brad Pitt before he got friggin weird. . . my wife and all her friends just think he's adorable.

He's been shelved by three different women in the last couple of months. He looks to me for advice cause I'm an old married geezer but I still remember what it was like to be 23 and I recently told him that maybe he was being a little too nice. He's been acting a little more aloof lately. . .I'll let you know how that works out.

If he's dating girls his age he may just be running into the ones that want to be the center of attention and being that he is so close and seemingly responsible for his family there is where the problem stems from.

I would just tell him to be himself, enjoy life and wait for that one woman that knocks his socks off and see the value in him as a person.