You guys are full of shit. You think cuz you are 200+ that no one else can be skinny? It should be opposite, you guys who are 210+ SHOUL NOT be on teh juice, you are big enough. Me, Im 4'10, 31 years old and 3 weeks ago my max weight was 150. This was after a year of training and eating big with 250 grams of protien a day. I went from 143 to 150 in a year. You say I shouldnt Juice? Hell, Im on my 1st cycle of dbol/sus250 and into week 3. Training HARD, eating BIG, and my protien intake is more than enough. For us hard gainers it is not as easy as drinking milk and eating peanut butter. It does not work like that. I think if someone is 135lb at 5'10 and over 21 they should juice if they want to, not be deterred by a 210lb guy with good genetics. No the juice is not a miracle pill, but if it helps me pack on 10-15lbs of permanant muscle Ill be happy. My goal is 175-180, Im now at 164. In High School I was 5'10 118lbs. This was at my graduation. I got to 130 when I was 26, and 140 when I was 29 (fat gut) didnt hit the 150 till I trained for a year. SO to all of you who think small frame guys shouldnt juice, who do you think it benefits more? A skinny guy that can go from 130-175 or a genetic freak who is already big just to look bigger?