What would you do? (Light planning for future cycle)

[Izzman]

I was thinking sometime in the future I plan to run a good mass building stack. I am currently on 1.25mg finasteride EOD (and I dont plan to come off it) since I am MPB prone. Here is what I have and am planning:

Test E @ 200mg/20ML 1/2CC E3D (200mg/week mainly for libido and hair protection from deca & finasteride use)
NPP @ 200mg/ 20ML 1cc & 1/2 E3D
EQ @ 200mg/ 20ML 1cc & 1/2 E3D (or would 1cc E3D @ 400mg/week be sufficent? Same with NPP?)
Dbol @ 10-15mg ED (low dose at first to see if I shed) For weeks 1-4

I plan on running this for 10-12 weeks tops. Now I have read all around that Deca and Finasteride are a no-no, now even though I am MPB prone I have run fina in the past with virtually no hair problems (Using hair protectants: spiro, minox, folligen, shampoos and still am), and am hoping that I will be okay here since using finasteride with Deca actually results in a compound much similar to fina. I also plan to ramp the dbol dosage up to 15-20mg ED if its kind to my hair. If not I will drop that as well entirely and switch to M1T instead @ 10-15mg ED (I have plenty and it doesn't make me shed). Also, do yous think this is too much gear? Maybe I should just up the Test to 500mg/week and run it with the NPP @ 400mg/week and save the EQ? So any feedback here would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

[solidspine]

Is this your first cycle? For your goals Diet and Training are just important, but it does not seem like you are using too much gear, I would up the EC. d-bol and test

After 4-5 cycles of combined Fina and Deca, I did a bout with serious deca dick and loss of libdo.

Okay at first, but when it happend -----surprised the heck out of me, and made me stay away from Deca.

 

[Izzman]

Is this your first cycle? For your goals Diet and Training are just important, but it does not seem like you are using too much gear, I would up the EC. d-bol and test

After 4-5 cycles of combined Fina and Deca, I did a bout with serious deca dick and loss of libdo.

Okay at first, but when it happend -----surprised the heck out of me, and made me stay away from Deca.

This isn't my first cycle (if I were to run it, it would be my third), my diet and training are coming along on point as I am natty bulking and making terrific gains. Just doing some planning thats all. So would the EQ be good to keep @ 400mg/week or should I just drop it and bump the test to 500mg/week? Or should I just leave the cycle as is? I don't want to run all these compounds if I dont have to.

 

[Izzman]

This isn't my first cycle (if I were to run it, it would be my third), my diet and training are coming along on point as I am natty bulking and making terrific gains. Just doing some planning thats all. So would the EQ be good to keep @ 400mg/week or should I just drop it and bump the test to 500mg/week? Or should I just leave the cycle as is? I don't want to run all these compounds if I dont have to.

Bumparoo. Any thoughts?

 

[Tryn2]

If you know the sides and how deca treats you why run NPP. Especially since your running EQ and Enanthate. Id hit regular deca and save the change. I think test at 200 is fine since deca/eq stacks are suppoes to work so well anyway. My libido was throught the roof on deca.
I think if your bulking id run test 500 deca 400 and dbol first 4 weeks....
I think Id save the eq and run it at 600 with test as my fourth cycle. But if you want I dont see anything wrong with what you have....I love deca if the sides arent bad why not ???

 

[Izzman]

If you know the sides and how deca treats you why run NPP. Especially since your running EQ and Enanthate. Id hit regular deca and save the change. I think test at 200 is fine since deca/eq stacks are suppoes to work so well anyway. My libido was throught the roof on deca.
I think if your bulking id run test 500 deca 400 and dbol first 4 weeks....
I think Id save the eq and run it at 600 with test as my fourth cycle. But if you want I dont see anything wrong with what you have....I love deca if the sides arent bad why not ???

Thanks bro, K for a good response. When I do run this cycle in the future, it will actually be my very first time trying out deca, so I guess I just want to see how I react to it, thats why I chose NPP, because its fast acting and then if I really like it, Ill definitely include it in future cycles (I have some reg deca on the side). So you think EQ should be dropped? Would the 500mg Test/ 400mg Deca Stack be way better anyhow? Somehow the idea of running three compounds simultaneously scares me, lol.

 

[Tryn2]

I have heard of bros saying test/eq is a good stack. So you could run it with test at a low dose like you stated and it probably will be fine. NPP is nice that way if you do run into problems you can get out fast. Im not sure yet but I like running only like one thing with test right now. It lets me know what is working and what isnt. If you do run all of them you may not know which one is the standout choice for you. Thats why running say deca now then a fourth test/dbol/eq then maybe all of them as a fifth. BUt really any of those choices should make you grow.
Some bros think if your going to do it, just do it and they never do less than 400 mgs test.....But its proven deca/test/dbol will make you grow and thats probably what Ill run next...Good luck

 

[psychedout]

I was thinking sometime in the future I plan to run a good mass building stack. I am currently on 1.25mg finasteride EOD (and I dont plan to come off it) since I am MPB prone. Here is what I have and am planning:

Test E @ 200mg/20ML 1/2CC E3D (200mg/week mainly for libido and hair protection from deca & finasteride use)
NPP @ 200mg/ 20ML 1cc & 1/2 E3D
EQ @ 200mg/ 20ML 1cc & 1/2 E3D (or would 1cc E3D @ 400mg/week be sufficent? Same with NPP?)
Dbol @ 10-15mg ED (low dose at first to see if I shed) For weeks 1-4

I plan on running this for 10-12 weeks tops. Now I have read all around that Deca and Finasteride are a no-no, now even though I am MPB prone I have run fina in the past with virtually no hair problems (Using hair protectants: spiro, minox, folligen, shampoos and still am), and am hoping that I will be okay here since using finasteride with Deca actually results in a compound much similar to fina. I also plan to ramp the dbol dosage up to 15-20mg ED if its kind to my hair. If not I will drop that as well entirely and switch to M1T instead @ 10-15mg ED (I have plenty and it doesn't make me shed). Also, do yous think this is too much gear? Maybe I should just up the Test to 500mg/week and run it with the NPP @ 400mg/week and save the EQ? So any feedback here would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

To tell you the truth bro.... that looks like an awesome cycle!

I am loving the test/deca/dbol right now. I can forsee myself using lots of deca in the future.

As for deca + finasteride being a no-no, this is only true if test is not used. Ulter made a superb post on this. Can a plat member dig it up?

IMO, I would start the dbol at 20mg. And with all your hair protectors, I really think you will be fine. I think at 10-15 mg, it would be hard to notice a difference.

I wouldn't change anything in that cycle, except straight run the dbol from weeks 1-4 at 20mg, and maybe bump to 30mg.