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What supplament made you shake your head, and what sup made you go wow!!!
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BAD - Nitrotech Hardcore, muscle milk, weider weight gainers, prohormones. They all sucked!! Waste of money.
GOOD - BEASTDROL, DIESOBOLAN, ANABOLIC XTREME SUPERDROL, are and were amazing!! BIGBLAST has been the Best protein I have ever taken and I feel it!! NEEDTO BeterBars are the Best tasing and quality protein bar on the planet!
GOOD - BEASTDROL, DIESOBOLAN, ANABOLIC XTREME SUPERDROL, are and were amazing!! BIGBLAST has been the Best protein I have ever taken and I feel it!! NEEDTO BeterBars are the Best tasing and quality protein bar on the planet!
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How would you compare ZIP to amp02? I need a good pre w/o for PCT
Also Big Blast is just too expensive for me right now I do want to try it when I get a chance. As far as creatine goes I am going to get Sci-Fit creatine kre-alkalyn really only because the studies show its better than any other creatine and you take 1/10th the dose of monohydrate.
I'd like to see those studies... I would like to see how they were conducted and what "results" they had...
I can post studies that say the total opposite. Furthermore, CrM has a lot of studies on it saying that it's effective, so why mess with it? CrM is dirt cheap and it works.
LOL i am not going to sit here on google and find studies to argue with you I will try CrM? Whateverthat is?
I have never taken creatine so I dont know where to go, but I have just read everywhere that you only need 3g of kre alkalyn for every 30g of monohydrate. I know monohydrate sucks just because they have come out with a lot of new kinds of creatine.
Where can I find this CrM? Thanks
haha... CrM = Monohydrate
I love reading studies, I love arguing, and I love learning and if that means being corrected, then so be it... but from the studies I've read (countless), I can say that Monohydrate is the most tried and true version of creatine you can find.
Why do new forms of creatine come out? - I guess I can't answer that question without a dollar sign popping into my head. As far as CEE and Kre go, I'd rather not take creatine, than submit myself to one of them (perhaps that's being ignorant..which I wouldn't put past myself)
This is straight from LN on the effets of CEE
CEE is claimed to provide several advantages over CM because of increased solubility and stability. In practice, the addition of the ethyl group to creatine actually reduces acid stability and accelerates its breakdown to creatinine. This substantially reduces creatine availability in its esterified form and as a consequence creatines such as San CM2 and CE2 are inferior to CM as a source of free creatine.
Here is a review on the studies of Kre
In contrast to the claims of All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp., the rate of creatinine formation from CM was found to be less than 1% of the initial dose, demonstrating that CM is extremely stable under acidic conditions that replicate those of the stomach. This study also showed that KA supplementation actually resulted in 35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM. In conclusion the conversion of creatine to creatinine is not a limitation in the delivery of creatine from CM and KA is less stable than CM in the acid conditions of the stomach.
Both of these studies were done by Tallon and if you want the full study just let me know.
haha... CrM = Monohydrate
I love reading studies, I love arguing, and I love learning and if that means being corrected, then so be it... but from the studies I've read (countless), I can say that Monohydrate is the most tried and true version of creatine you can find.
Why do new forms of creatine come out? - I guess I can't answer that question without a dollar sign popping into my head. As far as CEE and Kre go, I'd rather not take creatine, than submit myself to one of them (perhaps that's being ignorant..which I wouldn't put past myself)
This is straight from LN on the effets of CEE
CEE is claimed to provide several advantages over CM because of increased solubility and stability. In practice, the addition of the ethyl group to creatine actually reduces acid stability and accelerates its breakdown to creatinine. This substantially reduces creatine availability in its esterified form and as a consequence creatines such as San CM2 and CE2 are inferior to CM as a source of free creatine.
Here is a review on the studies of Kre
In contrast to the claims of All American Pharmaceutical and Natural Foods Corp., the rate of creatinine formation from CM was found to be less than 1% of the initial dose, demonstrating that CM is extremely stable under acidic conditions that replicate those of the stomach. This study also showed that KA supplementation actually resulted in 35% greater conversion of creatine to creatinine than CM. In conclusion the conversion of creatine to creatinine is not a limitation in the delivery of creatine from CM and KA is less stable than CM in the acid conditions of the stomach.
Both of these studies were done by Tallon and if you want the full study just let me know.
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Your the man bro, thx for the studies. I cant flame monohydrate because i have never taken it, just read it was garbage. I just dont want to bloat, but obviously that hasnt been an issue with test/dbol so i guess it wont be much diff with some creatine.
What is the best kind? Hook a brotha up
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