What really separates the PLer from the BBer?

[bblazer]

I'm sitting here thinking about when it really comes right down to it, other than a layer of fat, what really separates a BBer from a PLer?

1) The core exercises are the same
2) Diet (at least in the bulking phase) is very similar
3) Days/time in the gym are roughly the same
4) Muscle volume (with some obvious exceptions) is roughly the same

Does it really just come down to something as simple as I (as a PLer) don't do curls or other isolation exercises?

B-

 

[joe d]

I'm sitting here thinking about when it really comes right down to it, other than a layer of fat, what really separates a BBer from a PLer?

1) The core exercises are the same
2) Diet (at least in the bulking phase) is very similar
3) Days/time in the gym are roughly the same
4) Muscle volume (with some obvious exceptions) is roughly the same

Does it really just come down to something as simple as I (as a PLer) don't do curls or other isolation exercises?

B-

i think thats about it. no peak. that and you pl'er guys are to fucking ugly to get into bb'ing there would be no insentive.

 

[OneBreath]

I think there's also a state of mind that enables the difference. One gets the high of looking in the mirror, the other, gets the high of putting up big numbers. Pure speculation of course. I like to train like a PLer and diet/cardio like a BBer. The best of both worlds.

 

[mwm5]

p.l.ers like to eat too much to cut...i know a few guys who started in b.b. but once they did one show and found out what it took to get competition ready they switched to p.l.ing. it's tougher than most think getting competition ready. i also agree it has to do with the isolation movements.

 

[iggy]

PLers care about numbers, BBers care about symmetry and proportion and mass

 

[bblazer]

i think thats about it. no peak. that and you pl'er guys are to fucking ugly to get into bb'ing there would be no insentive.

What d'ya mean ugly. Gene Rychlak is a stud!

 

[SouthernLord]

Gene Rychlak is possibly the ugliest person alive. Did you know both his parents are deaf?

 

[SouthernLord]

I think there's also a state of mind that enables the difference. One gets the high of looking in the mirror, the other, gets the high of putting up big numbers. Pure speculation of course. I like to train like a PLer and diet/cardio like a BBer. The best of both worlds.

You could lump me in this catagory too. I get off on heavy weights and PRs, but I also care about my diet/appearence.

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[bblazer]

Gene Rychlak is possibly the ugliest person alive. Did you know both his parents are deaf?

No I didn't. You learn something every day.

B-

 

[Big_BK]

You seriously do not need all that fat to be a powerlifter, thats just disgusting, shit diet and shit genetics.

 

[bblazer]

You seriously do not need all that fat to be a powerlifter, thats just disgusting, shit diet and shit genetics.

How do you think they get the 2" bench press without that gut?

B-

 

[dabuffguy]

Let's clone Arnold.

 

[fortunatesun]

I think there's more to it than just ripping each other, even if it is in good fun.

There's a cultural difference. It's just easier to align yourself in one camp and then spend your time overcoming prejudices about the other.

Which can be a good thing. Iron is what it is and exchanging information will make you a better player.

 

[the_alcatraz]

different workout routine, one lifts very heavy one doesn't, one is about asthetics one is about strength and size, diet is different for sure - even during bulking a bodybuilder shouldnt eat like a powerlifter...

 

[SouthernLord]

different workout routine, one lifts very heavy one doesn't, one is about asthetics one is about strength and size, diet is different for sure - even during bulking a bodybuilder shouldnt eat like a powerlifter...

Don't forget PLers lift in weight classes. The 242's and down for the most part stay fairly lean and watch their diets. The 308s and SHW are a different story though.

 

[ExtraMile]

You could lump me in this catagory too. I get off on heavy weights and PRs, but I also care about my diet/appearence.

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me too but loosing BF is the hardest thing I have done so far...

 

[needtogetaas]

How about we all give needto some karma?

 

[ExtraMile]

How about we all give ExtraMile some karma?

sounds like a good idea

 

[bblazer]

How about we all give needto some karma?

If you wouldn't loose all your karma at the bookie, you wouldn't be wandering the streets begging for more...

B-

 

[SaiBoT]

The pump!!!

 

[LucSulla]

I guess I fall into the PL catagory simply because I don't care about ever having my body fat below 14 or 15 percent. While that is squishy by BB standards, as far as healthiness it is perfectly fine. I've never really cared about having a perfectly sculpted body - just good joints, good blood pressure, a shit load of usable strength, and keeping my waist somewhere around 34-36. The jump from accomplishing those goals to really pushing for the ultimate physique is a whole other level of dedication, and frankly, it doesn't hold enough appeal for me to do it. I entirely understand the compulsion however and see nothing wrong with it at all as long as someone can embrace it as a way to explore one's potential and not fall into a chasm of narcissism. It's fun seeing of what you are capable, unfortunately there are a handful of lifters in both camps that forget there are a myriad of ways to challenge one's self both in and out of a gym.

 

[SaiBoT]

I guess I fall into the PL catagory simply because I don't care about ever having my body fat below 14 or 15 percent. While that is squishy by BB standards, as far as healthiness it is perfectly fine. I've never really cared about having a perfectly sculpted body - just good joints, good blood pressure, a shit load of usable strength, and keeping my waist somewhere around 34-36. The jump from accomplishing those goals to really pushing for the ultimate physique is a whole other level of dedication, and frankly, it doesn't hold enough appeal for me to do it. I entirely understand the compulsion however and see nothing wrong with it at all as long as someone can embrace it as a way to explore one's potential and not fall into a chasm of narcissism. It's fun seeing of what you are capable, unfortunately there are a handful of lifters in both camps that forget there are a myriad of ways to challenge one's self both in and out of a gym.

You mean, you don't kiss your bis?

 

[djeclipse]

I'm sitting here thinking about when it really comes right down to it, other than a layer of fat, what really separates a BBer from a PLer?

1) The core exercises are the same
2) Diet (at least in the bulking phase) is very similar
3) Days/time in the gym are roughly the same
4) Muscle volume (with some obvious exceptions) is roughly the same

Does it really just come down to something as simple as I (as a PLer) don't do curls or other isolation exercises?

B-

The only differences are.

Power lifters are typically much, stronger as that is their main focus.

Body fat %

There was a thread a few years back that showed a powerlifter that decided to actually cut. He kept his training the same, didn't do curls, took some test to keep his strength and cut. He was ripped and looked like a BB'er when he was done, but he was still strong.

Curls and other isolation exercises weren't a factor.

 

[LucSulla]

You mean, you don't kiss your bis?

Only when I have a really sweet pump!

I have been known to get next to the guy who insists on checking out his abs in the mirror after he gets done with his killer set of 5 quarter squats on the smith machine with 135 on the bar and pull up my shirt to admire my hairy gut.

 

[MsBeverlyHills]

bodybuilders- must look good in a speedo.

powerlifters- must hit big numbers in a suit.

cheers

 

[lookinfit75]

Only when I have a really sweet pump!

I have been known to get next to the guy who insists on checking out his abs in the mirror after he gets done with his killer set of 5 quarter squats on the smith machine with 135 on the bar and pull up my shirt to admire my hairy gut.

RFLAO!
I thought PL'ers were more massive just because of the the weight they had to push around. BB'ers are usually not as big as PL'ers. Let's not forget that BB'ing is the art of illusion. Just the right tan, right lighting, and lower your BF% enough and on print you look like a monster.

 

[b fold the truth]

A LOT of Powerlifters cut weight too...

I'd say speed and explosiveness being the center of training could be the biggest difference.

 

[djeclipse]

RFLAO!
I thought PL'ers were more massive just because of the the weight they had to push around. BB'ers are usually not as big as PL'ers. Let's not forget that BB'ing is the art of illusion. Just the right tan, right lighting, and lower your BF% enough and on print you look like a monster.

So true, with different lighting I can either look like the Before picture, or the after picture.