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what is your opinion of the fence/wall/barrier that Isreal is building around itself?
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Best thing that ever happened.
It furthers peace by making it more difficult for some of these attacks to occur. That has already been demonstrably proven where the fence exists.
It also puts pressure on the Palestinians to reach some kind of accord, and effectively seperates the majority of them from their Israeli countreparts.
There is some land grabbing taking place, depending on perspective, but there is a recognition within Israel that concessions will need to be made. From their perspective it also serves as a bargaining chip they can wield when serious negotiations begin
It furthers peace by making it more difficult for some of these attacks to occur. That has already been demonstrably proven where the fence exists.
It also puts pressure on the Palestinians to reach some kind of accord, and effectively seperates the majority of them from their Israeli countreparts.
There is some land grabbing taking place, depending on perspective, but there is a recognition within Israel that concessions will need to be made. From their perspective it also serves as a bargaining chip they can wield when serious negotiations begin
Allon
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eat big said:
Not true, Arabs and jews only started fighting since the 20's when zionism started. Always got on quite well b4 that.
The wall does cut into their territory. But what exactly is their territory is yet to truly be defined and agreed upon. That is part of the problem with the wall as the arabs say that Israel is using the wall to define the territory.
The worst part is when it cuts through farmland so palestinians who have a field they need to harvest, when part of it is on the other side of the wall have to travel to the nearest checkpoint, wait for hours and get searched as well as get a permit to enter Israel b4 this, and then travel back to their field on the other side of the wall, and then return home at the end of the day... imagine it, it sucks, as well as the humiliation. Sometimes they don't even get to go do the work and lose crops...
The reason the wall is built in some of these places is often due to the fact that if the wall is built in a certain place and to continue it you have to go around a certain area makes it much less practicle to build it as well as making it close to Israeli settlements. Obviously Israel who controls the territories called palestine will always choose the option that suits Israel best and not consider some Palestinian farmers. It sucks but thats life...
As an Israeli I might add that I have no solid opinion about this wall.
I hate the fact it exists and everything I stand for is against this kind of thing.
On the other hand, if it saves lives?.....
All in all, the majority of Israeli's (including myself at times) feel that the palestinians are the ones who caused us to build it. until they "grow up" and accept Israels superiority and right to exist, they are sealing their own fate behind this wall apart from any other inconveniance that their people are going through.
Hey, they had a democratic election this week, the first arab state ever to do this, so maybe there is hope?
Dirk Howat
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jestros said:
Jews are hypocrites. They are like modern Nazi's going for living space "lebensraum", creating ghettos for palastinians, segregation, government sponsered attempts at eugenics and racial breeding with their rural community. They are all for that in Israel
But do they recommend a fence in Mexico or Canada or the same policies for other groups, like Arabs?
When dealing with Jews:
Do as Jews do/recommend for themselves (Isrealie policies benefiting their own group)
not
what Jews recommend for non-Jews (their t.v./movie propaganda).
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