What is your IQ?

[Tiervexx]

I can smell the bullshit of this thread through the monitor.

I really am in the top one or two percent, but I don't think that is anything to brag about.

IQ tests are sort of like the ACT test in that it is a very accurate measure of how good you are at taking that particular test. The whole idea of standardized testing is extremely flawed. You can test for a specific skill, but anyone who thinks you can test intelligence has to be retarded.

 

[Robert Jan]

An interesting fact: People do better on games when there are some mock consequences. For instance, one person may do poorly at a logic puzzle dealing with "Objects with property A relative to Trinkets" but do well at a logic puzzle dealing with "People with the desire to steal Poker chips". Some very useful mock consequences are cheating and financial gain. People become better detectives when making believe they are dealing with consequential issues.

The ability to reason with a complete lack of mock consequences is very important. When you can figure something out that has no example, you can apply that logic to anything where it fits. This is the whole difference between intelligence and experience.

I know what you mean by the way it gets easier. I saw on TV once that they interviewed young kids who worked on the market for a living in Brazil or so, and they had no idea what 5.00 minus 2.65 was, but when you paid them money they would know instantly how much change they are to give you.
So these kids work in life, but not on an IQ test. the whole interesting thing is though, somebody who is good at IQ tests could take over their work and learn it almost instantly, and not vice versa. These kids would have a hard time adapting to a new situation, whereas a person with a lot of abstract, IQ intelligence can apply his correct universal logic in new situations.

 

[w8lifterchick]

The ability to reason with a complete lack of mock consequences is very important. When you can figure something out that has no example, you can apply that logic to anything where it fits. This is the whole difference between intelligence and experience.

very good points.
creativity and logic play a large roll in IQ for that reason- being able to be creative enough to come up with more than one solution to a problem, especially one you've had no experience with before, will give you more choices for the RIGHT answer.
i could know every fact in the library, but if i can't put together a simple puzzle, am i really that smart?
and if i can do both, but can't maintain healthy relationships and can't interact with society enough to hold a job or keep friends or remember to pay my bills- is that smart?

 

[The Shadow]

>145

 

[plornive]

The ability to reason with a complete lack of mock consequences is very important. When you can figure something out that has no example, you can apply that logic to anything where it fits. This is the whole difference between intelligence and experience.

I know what you mean by the way it gets easier. I saw on TV once that they interviewed young kids who worked on the market for a living in Brazil or so, and they had no idea what 5.00 minus 2.65 was, but when you paid them money they would know instantly how much change they are to give you.
So these kids work in life, but not on an IQ test. the whole interesting thing is though, somebody who is good at IQ tests could take over their work and learn it almost instantly, and not vice versa. These kids would have a hard time adapting to a new situation, whereas a person with a lot of abstract, IQ intelligence can apply his correct universal logic in new situations.

I would say that it takes a certain type of experience and education to be able to do well on IQ tests, as well as perhaps a certain type of brain. Perhaps you would agree.

Let's take an example: Game theory. It can be used to analyze many things from evolution and economics to poker. It is universal and abstract. Is it appliable to IQ tests? I'm curious, myself. Who decides which patterns, logics, problems and solutions are emphasized?

Are the logics of social engineering or other specific or applied logics the same as those measured by IQ tests? Is creativity measured by IQ tests? I have much doubt about this, considering part of creativity is accepting contradictions in order to arrive at new truths which are finally consistent with the old contradictions (is this measured by IQ tests?). (Above a certain IQ, creativity is purportedly not correlated with IQ.)

 

[tuc biscuit]

lmao at some of you chodes and whores on this thread

I would like to see the results of digger, supersizeme and nathan, probably some true 140+'s there.

 

[Robert Jan]

I would say that it takes a certain type of experience and education to be able to do well on IQ tests, as well as perhaps a certain type of brain. Perhaps you would agree.

Let's take an example: Game theory. It can be used to analyze many things from evolution and economics to poker. It is universal and abstract. Is it appliable to IQ tests? I'm curious, myself. Who decides which patterns, logics, problems and solutions are emphasized?

Are the logics of social engineering or other specific or applied logics the same as those measured by IQ tests? Is creativity measured by IQ tests? I have much doubt about this, considering part of creativity is accepting contradictions in order to arrive at new truths which are finally consistent with the old contradictions (is this measured by IQ tests?). (Above a certain IQ, creativity is purportedly not correlated with IQ.)

Why is part of creativity accepting contradictions?

 

[GoldenDelicious]

who cares

 

[Robert Jan]

who cares

God cares. people with low IQ's go to hell. did you not get the memo?

 

[plornive]

Why is part of creativity accepting contradictions?

Researchers in certain fields need to entertain hypotheses which contradict what they currently know. After experimentation or analysis, they may find that a contradiction is based on an idea they would like to change, and the corresponding hypothesis may actually be correct. I guess you could say that it is a certain type of search strategy, quite necessary in certain fields... phylogeny and even... physics. Some people are actually good at thinking in this way while others are not.

Anyway, I'm not saying that IQ tests are worthless or bad. However, there are just some significant things that they do not measure.