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What is your IQ?

What is your IQ?

  • Below 100

    Votes: 3 6.4%
  • 111 - 115

    Votes: 3 6.4%
  • 116 - 125

    Votes: 1 2.1%
  • 126 - 135

    Votes: 9 19.1%
  • 136 - 145

    Votes: 16 34.0%
  • Above 145

    Votes: 15 31.9%

  • Total voters
    47
LOL. You bitches would all whine that I was lying
 
We told you we were smart
 
Stop trying to steal my thunder Dougly. My pimples are smarter than you. They're also bigger than your penis
 
This is a good thread topic. I`m glad someone asked.
 
Should be the funniest thread ever
 
JerseyArt said:
Should be the funniest thread ever


This question gets posted an average of about once a month. I could bump all 75 threads if you like. lol
 
GL,

LOL

But it should be so funny reading the answers
 
JerseyArt said:
GL,

LOL

But it should be so funny reading the answers


Yeah every thread has it`s potential. There are some good discussions though on certain Online IQ tests that are better than others. not worth anything... etc. etc..
 
this is gonna end up like the penis size poll, I know it....
 
fiddy-eleven
 
It's funnier because a higher than 130 IQ is so rare, and measuring accurately above 140 is next to impossible.

Any online test is just for fun. But I cant wait to read the list of mensa alumni
 
JerseyArt said:
It's funnier because a higher than 130 IQ is so rare, and measuring accurately above 140 is next to impossible.

Any online test is just for fun. But I cant wait to read the list of mensa alumni


Charter Member (Mensa) here.......... :supercool

Did I mention I got an eleventeen ???

IQ test are way too subjective to be worth abny merit. :)
 
pitbullstl said:
Charter Member (Mensa) here.......... :supercool

Did I mention I got an eleventeen ???

IQ test are way too subjective to be worth abny merit. :)


I believe you bor.

Im having a hard time believing though that Tiger scored over a 30
 
LMAO at this thread bors.

Does anyone understand what IQ is?

Intelligence is roughly spread by normal (spread... what do you call this in english... Gauss curve)
It's human intelligence measured on a scale where 100 is average and the standard deviation is 15. This means that 68% of people are between 85-115.

16% are below 85% and 16% are above 115.

This means that either this site, EF C&C, predominantly attracts the top 1% of the population in intelligence, or the people here are FULL OF SHIT.

Please keep in mind that 99% of online IQ tests are crap.
Since when does everyone even know their IQ?
How many people even ever took a real, written, timed, psychologist done IQ test?
This poll should have an option "I don't know" and 80% should vote on it.
It doesn't even have a stupid option
 
I usually test in the 127 range on casual, unsupervised IQ tests. I think that's optimistic, so I voted 116-125.
 
Do people even know what it means to be 160ish in IQ?
I know a kid like that, his life is fucked up. He skipped three years in school and he can't make any friends because they're either too mature compared to him, or too stupid. He ends up hanging out with the people in the middle of his intellectual and emotional age and never really has fulfilling human contact. He's developed an array of personality disorders by now.
 
Robert Jan said:
LMAO at this thread bors.

Does anyone understand what IQ is?

Intelligence is roughly spread by normal (spread... what do you call this in english... Gauss curve)
It's human intelligence measured on a scale where 100 is average and the standard deviation is 15. This means that 68% of people are between 85-115.

16% are below 85% and 16% are above 115.

This means that either this site, EF C&C, predominantly attracts the top 1% of the population in intelligence, or the people here are FULL OF SHIT.

Please keep in mind that 99% of online IQ tests are crap.
Since when does everyone even know their IQ?
How many people even ever took a real, written, timed, psychologist done IQ test?
This poll should have an option "I don't know" and 80% should vote on it.
It doesn't even have a stupid option

:worried:
 
JerseyArt said:
LOL. You bitches would all whine that I was lying

You never struck me as a genius. I've talked to bunches of them. Not a stupid bor either. You're too emotional and you have too much faith. :D :chomp:

What do you have to show for your great intellect?
 
Robert Jan said:
Do people even know what it means to be 160ish in IQ?
I know a kid like that, his life is fucked up. He skipped three years in school and he can't make any friends because they're either too mature compared to him, or too stupid. He ends up hanging out with the people in the middle of his intellectual and emotional age and never really has fulfilling human contact. He's developed an array of personality disorders by now.

I knew a person like this too, your got that right!
 
ManOfArms said:
I knew a person like this too, your got that right!
He drove me mad. I found him interesting because I'm a bit of an intelligence freak I really think intellect is cool... It's probably because I have a lot of my confidence invested in me being bright...

Anyway it so happened that I was the only person who gave him the time of day in school and the only one who would take him up on his nice but tiresome and pointless debates about irrelevant issues.

This lead to him pretty much stalking me for a while. He'd steal from me so that I'd come to over to his place to get something back. I'd tell him he's a total cuntfart and he has to stop it and that I understand what he is doing and why but then he'd either make a joke out of it, or pull the pity card.

Luckily this "friendship" ended quite soon. I pretty much stopped ever being nice to him after he'd crossed the line. At first he pretended as though it was my problem and I was grumpy about something or some shit. He was just tiresome altogether. The guy came to our highschool 8 years old with long blonde hair with clips in it. You can imagine the consequences.

My GF thinks he's "cute"
 
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I had a best friend in high school named Peter. I've never encountered a more exceptional intellect, and since we were all tested at that school, I know his was ranked at the top.

He had a photographic memory and most keen reasoning skills I have ever seen He was so far beyond any of the rest of us it was amazing to witness. But you guys are right, it made him a social misfit, and even in competitions that should have served him well, such as debate, he was routinely beaten. The judges couldn't even keep up with him. I recall thinking am I the only one who recognizes how far beyond his opponents this kid has evidenced.

He became I believe a Trappist monk, if not them, then one of the other silent contemplative orders
 
JerseyArt said:
I had a best friend in high school named Peter. I've never encountered a more exceptional intellect, and since we were all tested at that school, I know his was ranked at the top.

He had a photographic memory and most keen reasoning skills I have ever seen He was so far beyond any of the rest of us it was amazing to witness. But you guys are right, it made him a social misfit, and even in competitions that should have served him well, such as debate, he was routinely beaten. The judges couldn't even keep up with him. I recall thinking am I the only one who recognizes how far beyond his opponents this kid has evidenced.

He became I believe a Trappist monk, if not them, then one of the other silent contemplative orders

My Biology teacher in High School was a genius... He had studied medicine, geology and biology all in far less than the usual time.
He had trouble teaching people anything though. He would, in the eyes of students, skip steps in reasoning, that were apparently to obvious for him to note.

Then there is the janitor who is borderline retarded. Then here and there he has fractions of unexpected experience-built smarts.
 
Robert Jan said:
You never struck me as a genius. I've talked to bunches of them. Not a stupid bor either. You're too emotional and you have too much faith. :D :chomp:

What do you have to show for your great intellect?

So you believe that you have the ability to decipher whether or not someone has a genius level intellect by what you gather from their chat board persona???

Amazing...please don't waste your time with medical school, your talents would be put to much better use at a carnival sideshow.......you know guessing people's weight, favorite color....so on...so on.......

You seem to have a vague understanding of true IQ tests, but an overwhelming ability to copy and paste blurbs you discover on the net.


160 is not the norm I'll give you that, but for you to disregard the general publics ability to score in the 120-140 range is quite ignorant on your part.

There are plenty of people with extremely high IQ's dropping your fries in hot grease as we speak.



Did I mention I scored an eleventeen on the test in the back of my Highlights Magazine????? :chomp:
 
IQ is DEFINED as average = 100 and standard deviation is 15 pitbull.

If the general population can do average 120-140, then the test is false.

My post to Jersey was very tongue in cheek. I used BOTH the :chomp: AND the :D to indicate that.
 
I discord the scaling system's validity.
Half the quotient is chronological age,
and age is not directly proportional
to intellectual aptitude.
 
pitbullstl said:
...but an overwhelming ability to copy and paste blurbs you discover on the net.


There are plenty of people with extremely high IQ's dropping your fries in hot grease as we speak.
I didn't paste anything

I know, many people with a low IQ make it to reach great things by exceptional inspiration and interest and hard work and many people with high IQ'sare absolutely not going anywhere due to their personality.

In fact I could very well see the beforementioned brilliant kid I befriended apply for welfare some time during his life.
 
Robert Jan said:
IQ is DEFINED as average = 100 and standard deviation is 15 pitbull.

If the general population can do average 120-140, then the test is false.

My post to Jersey was very tongue in cheek. I used BOTH the :chomp: AND the :D to indicate that.

I wasn't implying that the general population scored a 120-140 as an average, but was rather stating that if you disregard someone in the general population as being able to score a 120-140, than that is a severe oversight.

Some of the best philosophical debates I have ever had, were with my Fed-Ex guy. :)
 
Isn't everyone a member of the general population Pitbull?
I'm not saying it's impossible for the outcome of this poll to be correct, but the chance is just incredibly small. The chance to people lying is certainly greater.
Here's all the info for you with scientific literature references and everything...

http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/IQBasics.html

70-80 Borderline deficiency
50-69 Moron
20-49 Imbecile
below 20 Idiot

I wonder how many people realise what they're saying when they call someone an idiot. An IQ of below 20 is comparable to the abstract reasoning capacities of a small rodent.
 
Robert Jan said:
The guy came to our highschool 8 years old with long blonde hair with clips in it. You can imagine the consequences.

My GF thinks he's "cute"

You should have taught him the concept of the "swirley"....
 
Robert Jan said:
I believe you. I can tell from your avi you like brunettes. that scores points. :)


O yeh...hit me up with that jennifer connelly karma broly....:)

Being in the 120-140 range is really nothing spectacular......160 on the other hand :artist:

LMFAO at this poll results....if this is true you guys need to stop wasting time posting and start figuring out complicated shit
 
http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/criteria.html

God damn. Look at these elite IQ societies and what scores they require.

the last one is for the people who have a higher IQ than 99.9999999 % of people.

So there are likely to be only 6 people in the world who may join. Probably only 2 or 3 of them have found this group and chosen to join it.

what the fuck are they gonna do? Sit it room together and think about how fucking smart they are?

The founder of this society is a Dutch guy. great. It says he also started the society for one in a thousand people. great. I guess he doesn;t have much else going for him.
 
Robert Jan said:
http://members.shaw.ca/delajara/criteria.html

God damn. Look at these elite IQ societies and what scores they require.

the last one is for the people who have a higher IQ than 99.9999999 % of people.

So there are likely to be only 6 people in the world who may join. Probably only 2 or 3 of them have found this group and chosen to join it.

what the fuck are they gonna do? Sit it room together and think about how fucking smart they are?

The founder of this society is a Dutch guy. great. It says he also started the society for one in a thousand people. great. I guess he doesn;t have much else going for him.

I say we show up to a meeting with strippers and kegs in tow, and then proceed to argue that the world is flat. Just to see their heads explode. :)
 
pitbullstl said:
Robert Jan said:
Isn't everyone a member of the general population Pitbull?
QUOTE]

Semantics do not make for a great debate.

I'm not attempting such it was a point. you said I dismissed a member of the general populace to be able to do something but we're all part of that
 
Here you can find some "Very Exceptionally Difficult IQ Tests"
http://members.brabant.chello.nl/p.cooijmans/tests/

The mission statement of giga society is to demonstrate to the other elite societies that they too are limited, which they seem to forget according to giga. PIssing contest anyone?
The dutch guy who founded the giga society of one in a billion smart people is looking for a job as a web programmer.

anybody wanna employ a supergenius lol
 
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JerseyArt said:
It's funnier because a higher than 130 IQ is so rare, and measuring accurately above 140 is next to impossible.

Any online test is just for fun. But I cant wait to read the list of mensa alumni

i joined mensa at 16, when i graduated high school a year early (i had already started college at that point).
the only tests i've ever had were one on one by a certified tester.
 
I qualified for mensa too, well not officially, I downloaded one of their tests to make as a practise for my "MCAT's" and I scored sufficiently to join.

I dont see why I should though.

What has it ever gotten you w8?
 
Robert Jan said:
Do people even know what it means to be 160ish in IQ?
I know a kid like that, his life is fucked up. He skipped three years in school and he can't make any friends because they're either too mature compared to him, or too stupid. He ends up hanging out with the people in the middle of his intellectual and emotional age and never really has fulfilling human contact. He's developed an array of personality disorders by now.

I skipped 2, and i agree that there is a stigma that goes with higher intelligence, but not everyone that has a higher IQ has the social disorders that are common.
Intelligence isn't necessarily knowledge of facts- there's been a study for a long time that intelligence can be increased with a higher degree of creativity. Problem solving, lateral thinking, and reasoning are not something that can be memorized (which is good because i have a HORRIBLE memory). Intelligence is the ability to analyse this information to the persons advantages, i.e. answering correctly in the exam by making best use of the information you know.
so no, i don't have any personality disorders and i have friends who i would consider much smarter than me in a lot of ways, but put me in a room of physicists and i can bluff my way along.
 
Robert Jan said:
I qualified for mensa too, well not officially, I downloaded one of their tests to make as a practise for my "MCAT's" and I scored sufficiently to join.

I dont see why I should though.

What has it ever gotten you w8?

lol... a discount on my car insurance ( GEICO) and a reduced rate on a credit card which i don't use. oh, and the newsletter. I don't believe in the on line tests- and frankly don't give much credit to the personal ones either. I've been tested twice in my life (both in person) but its been years. EQ (emotional Quota) holds a lot more water in my opinion.
both my parents had high IQs- my fathers being the same as mine and he never worked a day in his life and ended up in prison, and still thought he was better than everyone else. but, i think he was just messed up anyway- his intelligence just made him think he was normal.
 
JerseyArt said:
LOL. You bitches would all whine that I was lying


I wouldn't man. From what I have seen of your posts you have shown good insight and reasoning ability, when you aren't telling someone they are a pussy or something.
 
pitbullstl said:
Charter Member (Mensa) here.......... :supercool

Did I mention I got an eleventeen ???

IQ test are way too subjective to be worth abny merit. :)

I agree. They are pretty subjective.
 
w8lifterchick said:
lol... a discount on my car insurance ( GEICO) and a reduced rate on a credit card which i don't use. oh, and the newsletter. I don't believe in the on line tests- and frankly don't give much credit to the personal ones either. I've been tested twice in my life (both in person) but its been years. EQ (emotional Quota) holds a lot more water in my opinion.
both my parents had high IQs- my fathers being the same as mine and he never worked a day in his life and ended up in prison, and still thought he was better than everyone else. but, i think he was just messed up anyway- his intelligence just made him think he was normal.
I never really understood what EQ is all about.

I just made an EQ test and I could simply have scored perfect or near perfect if I allowed myself to lie. Its easy to see what they want to hear.

now I was as honest as possible and got only 80 points.
The fact honesty comes into play dismisses the whole test. There's also a case of opinion here. Somehow whoever wrote this test knows what is the best emotional decision for ME to take?
 
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w8lifterchick said:
lol... a discount on my car insurance ( GEICO) and a reduced rate on a credit card which i don't use. oh, and the newsletter. I don't believe in the on line tests- and frankly don't give much credit to the personal ones either. I've been tested twice in my life (both in person) but its been years. EQ (emotional Quota) holds a lot more water in my opinion.
both my parents had high IQs- my fathers being the same as mine and he never worked a day in his life and ended up in prison, and still thought he was better than everyone else. but, i think he was just messed up anyway- his intelligence just made him think he was normal.


Yep. I'm sure you know, but IQ is a poor factor for determining success. There are so many other characteristics that come into play. I also think that intelligence is pretty overated, in general. I belive that life is simpler for simple people. Just my two cents...
 
BradG said:
Yep. I'm sure you know, but IQ is a poor factor for determining success. There are so many other characteristics that come into play. I also think that intelligence is pretty overated, in general. I belive that life is simpler for simple people. Just my two cents...

I dont think most people really believe IQ is the main factor to success
 
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Robert Jan said:
I don't really see the line of reason here. Perhaps success is overrated?

Two different lines of thought. One was that IQ is not a good determining factor of success. The other was a couple of my beliefs on intelligence.
 
BradG said:
Two different lines of thought. One was that IQ is not a good determining factor of success. The other was a couple of my beliefs on intelligence.
yip i already edited but you beat me to it and still quoted me
 
Robert Jan said:
I never really understood what EQ is all about.

I just made an EQ test and I could simply have scored perfect or near perfect if I allowed myself to lie. Its easy to see what they want to hear.

now I was as honest as possible and got only 80 points.
The fact honesty comes into play dismisses the whole test. There's also a case of opinion here. Somehow whoever wrote this test knows what is the best emotional decision for ME to take?

like the IQ test, the EQ test is subjective.
emotional quota i think is the ability to be wealthy emotionally- a trait that might be worth more than knowing how to split gamma rays or divide by pi faster than a calculator.
 
Ahh, sorry robert. Maybe I should be more patient. That may be true, but from what I have judged many seem to put it high on the list. It is very possible they just consider it an important attribute.
 
w8lifterchick said:
like the IQ test, the EQ test is subjective.
emotional quota i think is the ability to be wealthy emotionally- a trait that might be worth more than knowing how to split gamma rays or divide by pi faster than a calculator.

Of course it's worth more, but intelligence can be measured and emotional qualities can't, IMO.

Wealthy emotionally... Do you mean happy or what? New Age lingo? :D

Even if this could be measured, it would be assuming that my goal in life is to be as happy as possible. If this were true, I'd be on LSD and a stack of anti-D's right now, not posting on some message forum.
 
Robert Jan said:
Of course it's worth more, but intelligence can be measured and emotional qualities can't, IMO.

Wealthy emotionally... Do you mean happy or what? New Age lingo? :D

Even if this could be measured, it would be assuming that my goal in life is to be as happy as possible. If this were true, I'd be on LSD and a stack of anti-D's right now, not posting on some message forum.


I doubt that. YOu weight the consequenses of your actions and those consequenses are probably what keep you off those things because you realize that you would not be happier long term.

Happiness is the goal of every person/action, even those who kill themselves.
 
BradG said:
I doubt that. YOu weight the consequenses of your actions and those consequenses are probably what keep you off those things because you realize that you would not be happier long term.

Happiness is the goal of every person/action, even those who kill themselves.

Much like Jesus (as quoted at least), you wrongfully assume people love themselves.

PS. It's quite medically possible to survive for longer periods of time on a thorough "happy-stack". You would not spend much money in this state, so it's not really unaccessable or unrealistic.
 
Robert Jan said:
Much like Jesus (as quoted at least), you wrongfully assume people love themselves.

PS. It's quite medically possible to survive for longer periods of time on a thorough "happy-stack". You would not spend much money in this state, so it's not really unaccessable or unrealistic.


But do harmful actions make the self hating person happy? If they didn't why would they do them. It is really a philoshophical debate.
 
BradG said:
But do harmful actions make the self hating person happy? If they didn't why would they do them. It is really a philoshophical debate.
Good question.
If anything I'd say it's a question of whether or not it makes them less sad.
I think it does, actually. At least on short term, in the act and the planning.
So you're right. Self hating people want to be happier too.

What about people who see their happiness as irrelevant and don't love or hate themselves?
 
Our brains have sets of recipes operating on our animal machinery, much like functions on a serial computer (although ours can run in parallel and with more flexibility). Although I will grant that it is conceivable for someone to learn, develop or have brain recipes (reasoning skills) more quickly and readily than others, these brain recipes (reasoning skills) are still generally developed with experience and education (learned). The idea that genius just happens without outside help has been around for a long time, so I thought I would mention that it does not happen that way. If you had never received education (had brain recipes "installed") from others, you would have weak reasoning abilities.

The idea that genius usually "appears" (by magic?) early in life is also a misconception. A child displaying genius is considered a prodigy, while genius has "appeared" later in many peoples' lives. Perhaps they didn't have opportunity for education when they were younger. Perhaps these slower geniuses finally found what they were interested in after much misdirection. Albert Einstein is an example (lets not assume his genius was simply not recognized early in life).

An interesting fact: People do better on games when there are some mock consequences. For instance, one person may do poorly at a logic puzzle dealing with "Objects with property A relative to Trinkets" but do well at a logic puzzle dealing with "People with the desire to steal Poker chips". Some very useful mock consequences are cheating and financial gain. People become better detectives when making believe they are dealing with consequential issues.

Some peoples' "brain recipes" work with certain objects and types of patterns more readily. There are certainly people with high social intelligence but low mathematical reasoning abilities, for example.
 
BradG said:
Happiness is the goal of every person/action, even those who kill themselves.
False. Nothing has shown that the "goal" of every person is happiness.

Happiness is an idea created by society. A very good idea, of course. Pleasure, on the other hand, often guides actions.

Addicticts follow addictive patterns involving short-term pleasure and inflict short-term pain in order to gain short-term pleasure later on. Or, a CEO may decide that happiness can take a back seat to his feeling of power derived from success - he may feel stress, pain and no stability, but he keeps going for some reason.

People often take actions for reasons outside of themselves - reasons from without that are taught to them somehow. For example, religion. It is a common assumption (especially among economists) that all of the actions of individuals are "selfish" and logical, but it is not an accurate assumption for all contexts. People may find ideas attractive, leading them to help the actual ideas instead of themselves. You may claim that they hope to find happiness in this way, but their reasons can include many things: fear, short-term hunger, anger, or other long-term goals not leading to happiness (that CEO I mentioned earlier) etc. To assume a mythical underlying goal of happiness is nonsense.
 
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I can smell the bullshit of this thread through the monitor.

I really am in the top one or two percent, but I don't think that is anything to brag about.

IQ tests are sort of like the ACT test in that it is a very accurate measure of how good you are at taking that particular test. The whole idea of standardized testing is extremely flawed. You can test for a specific skill, but anyone who thinks you can test intelligence has to be retarded.
 
plornive said:
An interesting fact: People do better on games when there are some mock consequences. For instance, one person may do poorly at a logic puzzle dealing with "Objects with property A relative to Trinkets" but do well at a logic puzzle dealing with "People with the desire to steal Poker chips". Some very useful mock consequences are cheating and financial gain. People become better detectives when making believe they are dealing with consequential issues.

The ability to reason with a complete lack of mock consequences is very important. When you can figure something out that has no example, you can apply that logic to anything where it fits. This is the whole difference between intelligence and experience.

I know what you mean by the way it gets easier. I saw on TV once that they interviewed young kids who worked on the market for a living in Brazil or so, and they had no idea what 5.00 minus 2.65 was, but when you paid them money they would know instantly how much change they are to give you.
So these kids work in life, but not on an IQ test. the whole interesting thing is though, somebody who is good at IQ tests could take over their work and learn it almost instantly, and not vice versa. These kids would have a hard time adapting to a new situation, whereas a person with a lot of abstract, IQ intelligence can apply his correct universal logic in new situations.
 
Robert Jan said:
The ability to reason with a complete lack of mock consequences is very important. When you can figure something out that has no example, you can apply that logic to anything where it fits. This is the whole difference between intelligence and experience.

very good points.
creativity and logic play a large roll in IQ for that reason- being able to be creative enough to come up with more than one solution to a problem, especially one you've had no experience with before, will give you more choices for the RIGHT answer.
i could know every fact in the library, but if i can't put together a simple puzzle, am i really that smart?
and if i can do both, but can't maintain healthy relationships and can't interact with society enough to hold a job or keep friends or remember to pay my bills- is that smart?
 
Robert Jan said:
The ability to reason with a complete lack of mock consequences is very important. When you can figure something out that has no example, you can apply that logic to anything where it fits. This is the whole difference between intelligence and experience.

I know what you mean by the way it gets easier. I saw on TV once that they interviewed young kids who worked on the market for a living in Brazil or so, and they had no idea what 5.00 minus 2.65 was, but when you paid them money they would know instantly how much change they are to give you.
So these kids work in life, but not on an IQ test. the whole interesting thing is though, somebody who is good at IQ tests could take over their work and learn it almost instantly, and not vice versa. These kids would have a hard time adapting to a new situation, whereas a person with a lot of abstract, IQ intelligence can apply his correct universal logic in new situations.
I would say that it takes a certain type of experience and education to be able to do well on IQ tests, as well as perhaps a certain type of brain. Perhaps you would agree.

Let's take an example: Game theory. It can be used to analyze many things from evolution and economics to poker. It is universal and abstract. Is it appliable to IQ tests? I'm curious, myself. Who decides which patterns, logics, problems and solutions are emphasized?

Are the logics of social engineering or other specific or applied logics the same as those measured by IQ tests? Is creativity measured by IQ tests? I have much doubt about this, considering part of creativity is accepting contradictions in order to arrive at new truths which are finally consistent with the old contradictions (is this measured by IQ tests?). (Above a certain IQ, creativity is purportedly not correlated with IQ.)
 
lmao at some of you chodes and whores on this thread

I would like to see the results of digger, supersizeme and nathan, probably some true 140+'s there.
 
plornive said:
I would say that it takes a certain type of experience and education to be able to do well on IQ tests, as well as perhaps a certain type of brain. Perhaps you would agree.

Let's take an example: Game theory. It can be used to analyze many things from evolution and economics to poker. It is universal and abstract. Is it appliable to IQ tests? I'm curious, myself. Who decides which patterns, logics, problems and solutions are emphasized?

Are the logics of social engineering or other specific or applied logics the same as those measured by IQ tests? Is creativity measured by IQ tests? I have much doubt about this, considering part of creativity is accepting contradictions in order to arrive at new truths which are finally consistent with the old contradictions (is this measured by IQ tests?). (Above a certain IQ, creativity is purportedly not correlated with IQ.)

Why is part of creativity accepting contradictions?
 
Robert Jan said:
Why is part of creativity accepting contradictions?
Researchers in certain fields need to entertain hypotheses which contradict what they currently know. After experimentation or analysis, they may find that a contradiction is based on an idea they would like to change, and the corresponding hypothesis may actually be correct. I guess you could say that it is a certain type of search strategy, quite necessary in certain fields... phylogeny and even... physics. Some people are actually good at thinking in this way while others are not.

Anyway, I'm not saying that IQ tests are worthless or bad. However, there are just some significant things that they do not measure.
 
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Robert Jan said:
God cares. people with low IQ's go to hell. did you not get the memo?
dont make me hit you on the head with my IQ RJ, i dunno if youd survive ;)

but really, who cares. i know people with massive IQs and theyre in jail. i know people who are so stupid that i cant take more than 5 minutes at a time with them, and theyre millionaires.

some number given you by some test devised by some people makes sweet fuck all difference in the real world. dwelling on it will probably only give you a complex.

mental horsepower is meaningless unless you can apply it optimally in real world scenarios. and that seldom happens.

its usually people with high IQs that give a shit about high IQs. i have a high IQ, but really, i just want to have fun, and that usually happens when i get tipsy and lose about 30 IQ points ;)

go figure ;)
 
GoldenDelicious said:
dont make me hit you on the head with my IQ RJ, i dunno if youd survive ;)

but really, who cares. i know people with massive IQs and theyre in jail. i know people who are so stupid that i cant take more than 5 minutes at a time with them, and theyre millionaires.

some number given you by some test devised by some people makes sweet fuck all difference in the real world. dwelling on it will probably only give you a complex.

mental horsepower is meaningless unless you can apply it optimally in real world scenarios. and that seldom happens.

its usually people with high IQs that give a shit about high IQs. i have a high IQ, but really, i just want to have fun, and that usually happens when i get tipsy and lose about 30 IQ points ;)

go figure ;)


Yeah, crack can do that too you, get off the pipe son! :p
 
IQ is somewhat meaningless.

Personal effectiveness is what it is all about.


My IQ is rarely a factor though it would be helpful if it exceeded 90.



Seriously..........I do bone headed things all the damned time yet enjoy a rep for being too talented and having too much going for me.



Improvement and progress is expensive....I just can't afford to do it all the time.



I'll bet that many of you, if asked to think about it, would note that many of the biggest jack asses in your lives have been those who ran around patting themselves on the back about their IQ.


Personal effectiveness.....never mentioned because it can not be measured.
So we have to listen to MTS talk about money, Tuc talk about women, BBF talk about his penis, Lestat talk about his sex life, Tiervexx talk about economics, Robert Jan talk about anything, AAP talk about AAP etc, etc.


I suspect the most personally effective people are not noteworthy in any singular respect but do fine in almost every respect.



Besides.....it is who you know. We elected Bush as Supreme Planetary Overlord for crying out loud.
 
i think i am like a 128 or 132 or something....my mom told me my score a while ago from school IQ tests, but i forget


whatever it is, i'm still pretty much a waste of a human being
 
GoldenDelicious said:
its usually people with high IQs that give a shit about high IQs. i have a high IQ, but really, i just want to have fun, and that usually happens when i get tipsy and lose about 30 IQ points ;)

go figure ;)

like I said earlier, I think life is simpler for simple people.
 
I got officially tested by a psycologist. 132. My dad's is 162. He's a grad. of Notre Dame, and an Anesthesiologist.
 
Testosterone boy said:
Sounds like he married a Harvard/Yale alumni?

Lol.
Nope, Actually she was a registered nurse from St. Mary's University (Of San Antonio, TX). Actually, St. Mary's has one of the highest rates of undergrad acceptance to Med School in the country.

In any case, the IQ test really doesn't test anything besides your test taking capabilities. They call it an intelligence quotient, but that's pretty much bullshit. It's about your logic and reasoning skills. Even though my dad is one smart mofo.
 
I don't understand what you mean by saying it does not measure intelligence only test taking abilities. Intelligence is the ability to absorb and apply information and reason and I think the IQ test is very good at measuring it.

If people with low IQ scores become very rich or very happy or make great accomplishments that does not discredit the IQ test, it (arguably) discredits intelligence.
 
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