What do you think?

[pudding]

NO ramping at all. I have to use 45mg of D-bol before I feel anything. I am suggesting that you find "Your dose" You may grow great on 20 but you may need 40. That is one reason that I don't like an all oral First cycle. It may take you a couple of cycles to find your optimum dose.

I suggest starting @ 25...if in the first 1 1/2 weeks, you feel nothing as far as lower back pumps...some bloating...and or calf muscle and shin pumps....then you may need to increase your dose.
D-bol has a certain feel to it...maily it is "Pumps" I can say for 100% certainty that you will not be growing if you don't feel them....but from the things that I have read, and from personal experiences, I did not gain any weight until I was feeling those effects.

Makes sense. I'll up it today, see what happens over next week. Thanks

 

[genarr3]

NO ramping at all. I have to use 45mg of D-bol before I feel anything. I am suggesting that you find "Your dose" You may grow great on 20 but you may need 40. That is one reason that I don't like an all oral First cycle. It may take you a couple of cycles to find your optimum dose.

I suggest starting @ 25...if in the first 1 1/2 weeks, you feel nothing as far as lower back pumps...some bloating...and or calf muscle and shin pumps....then you may need to increase your dose.
D-bol has a certain feel to it...maily it is "Pumps" I can say for 100% certainty that you will not be growing if you don't feel them....but from the things that I have read, and from personal experiences, I did not gain any weight until I was feeling those effects.

Yep, this is what I was going to write.

 

[pudding]

Yep, this is what I was going to write.

Does your build have anything to do with dosage effectivness or is it just a matter of how each individuals body reacts to the drug?

 

[RADAR]

Provirion is a hardening agent i doubt if it will do much in combatting bloat you need armidex/liquidex for that.
Besides good luck holding on to the old hairline provirion will eat it up.


RADAR

 

[satchboogie]

Provirion is a hardening agent i doubt if it will do much in combatting bloat you need armidex/liquidex for that.
Besides good luck holding on to the old hairline provirion will eat it up.


RADAR

partially true my main man RADAR...
but proviron is also a good anti estrogen and if stacked with nolvadex can do a decent jump preventing bloat.

in fact, i rarely bloat nor get any sides even from heavy dosed cycles, and i strongly believe its due to proviron/nolvadex.

i prefer 50mg proviron and 20-40mg nolva per day throughout each and every cycle.

am i shorting gains?
probably so but id rather short my body a few extra pounds of muscle than get gyno or acne.

btw.. thanks for that one hook up with that hottee!!

 

[Goldprospector]

Does your build have anything to do with dosage effectivness or is it just a matter of how each individuals body reacts to the drug?

I don't know if it is size of body chemistry...But I am 6'5" and 250lbs

 

[RADAR]

partially true my main man RADAR...
but proviron is also a good anti estrogen and if stacked with nolvadex can do a decent jump preventing bloat.

in fact, i rarely bloat nor get any sides even from heavy dosed cycles, and i strongly believe its due to proviron/nolvadex.

i prefer 50mg proviron and 20-40mg nolva per day throughout each and every cycle.

am i shorting gains?
probably so but id rather short my body a few extra pounds of muscle than get gyno or acne.

btw.. thanks for that one hook up with that hottee!!

Ah! But you said Nolvadex, i was referring to provirion alone..........

hee hee! did she rock your boat? i thought you would like that!

RADAR

 

[satchboogie]

Ah! But you said Nolvadex, i was referring to provirion alone..........

hee hee! did she rock your boat? i thought you would like that!

RADAR

yes true..
proviron ALONE wont do much to prevent bloat.

 

[pudding]

Lots of great stuff guys. I'm definetly not ramping(good advise), full dose all way through, but only 6 week now. I was going to run nolva whole way then add prov week 2 till end of cycle, I not worried about hair(real thick) The thing I can't completely decide is pct, thinking nolva and clomid. Some people love this combo others seem down on it.

 

[AnabolicSA]

Good Luck Pudding, you will get VERY GOOD results since this is your first cycle and anybody need more than that in the first one....