What do yall take with your PCT?

[Fudge Tunnel]

i do hcg all thru out the cycle as small dosages (500iu weekly), then for pct im a strong believer of clomid and aromasin. This has been proven over and over again to work. None of these supplements that are popular on this forum will do anything close to what clomid (or nolvadex, whatever you choose) and aromasin (or arimidex) will do for your recovery.

I know makes some people feel shitty, but fuck, it works.

Edit, i also like to use creatine monohydrate when i come off.

thank you, a voice of reason!!!

 

[Fudge Tunnel]

I spoke out about Clomid and wrote about how the research was skewed over 10 years ago when everybody thought I was nuts. Now, it's becoming accepted.

It's too complicated to get into but it's essentially the same reasons why Nolva sucks. Chemically, they're actually similar.

Yeah, right. It's too complicated because you're misinformed.

The reason nolva is so bad is due to the fact that it suppresses IGF-1 levels as well as GH. It does improve cholesterol levels, but it is still a poor choice.

 

[wolfman87]

Yeah, right. It's too complicated because you're misinformed.

The reason nolva is so bad is due to the fact that it suppresses IGF-1 levels as well as GH. It does improve cholesterol levels, but it is still a poor choice.

i can't help but lol at this. can you elaborate on why you think clomid is soooooo much better that you felt the need to say we're misinformed? what does it do that the TRS, aromasin, unleashed/forged, liv 52, proper calorie intake doesn't do better?

throw in hcg and it's over, but i prefer to run it during the cycle myself.

 

[Fudge Tunnel]

i can't help but lol at this. can you elaborate on why you think clomid is soooooo much better that you felt the need to say we're misinformed? what does it do that the TRS, aromasin, unleashed/forged, liv 52, proper calorie intake doesn't do better?

throw in hcg and it's over, but i prefer to run it during the cycle myself.

You can easily google a seach on clomid an the studies which prove it works, can you say the same about these OTC products?

I never said anything negative about aromasin, it is the best A/I in my opinion.

 

[hooverdeuce]

So how do you feel about toremifene Nelson?

 

[wolfman87]

You can easily google a seach on clomid an the studies which prove it works, can you say the same about these OTC products?

I never said anything negative about aromasin, it is the best A/I in my opinion.

i already know what it does. i just wanted to hear your opinion on why you think it's so much better than the products i listed. just because something is otc doesn't mean it's worthless, hence the fact why many many people prefer them to clomid and nolva. not all of course just quite a bit. i chalk it up to not being converted by using them yet lol, but again that's just my opinion.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Yeah, right. It's too complicated because you're misinformed.

Arrogance mixed with ignorance. Bad combo bro.

 

[hooverdeuce]

bump

So how do you feel about toremifene Nelson?

 

[Jhotsauce7]

Torem is the shit. I did PCT from an 8 week test/tren cycle.. my first run with tren, and came back magically. Kept good gains and felt way better than on nolva/clomid combo. plus those two are both hepatoxic. Never use HCG either unless you've been on for 6 months or something

 

[hooverdeuce]

Why do you say not to use HCG?