well if you really think about it ,and the drugs that these guys have today ,and u look at the guyz in the 70,s doing dbol and winny and some deka ,arnold takes it ,if he were 19 years old today ,it wouldnt even be funny ,he was 240 at 18 years old ,and the guyz today look like freaks to big to bloated.arnold and franco were awsome,man you guyz need to look at some old pic,s,even there protine powder was crappy ,i say arnold