Yeah, that thread has gotten pretty long. It take forever to read through everything, but I think it's well worth it.
For Massive, the bodyfat % that you shoot at depends on what kind of photo shoot it is and how you look. Some guys can get away with being 7-8%, while others need to be 4%. I have a shoot in two days and I'm about 4.5-5% right now. That's where I need to be for the mag that I'm shooting for. Yes, you need to drop your water, but you don't necessarily have to carb load. I didn't carb load for the shoot I posted here and I won't for this one either. I don't need to be full and looking like I'm going to burst. I need to be dry and hard. So that's what I do. If you are a freak and are shooting for Flex, then I would recommend carb loading as that's what they want to see.