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Been using my real name on WU for years. It's when you use a fake name you run into trouble. It's called mail fraud. Why do people get so freaked about ordering gear. WU is private info. Like the guy earlier said it would take a subpoena to pry out that info. Who the hell is going to bother? The only people that care about are the local distributors , if you ain't one don't worry.
 
On another note there is billions of dollars that flow electronically all over the world. America has millions of immigrants that send money home to support their relatives etc. Heck, 50 billion USD goes to Mexico every year. I bet that amount is greater in funds going to Europe.

There is no doubt there are tracking systems in place (all it takes is a computer program) but they go after the big guys. A guy who sends $500 here and there to China is not going to get hit except in rare circumstances.

BTW use a FAKE name and address when sending money WU. Also keep the orders small.
 
my_pain said:
Been using my real name on WU for years. It's when you use a fake name you run into trouble. It's called mail fraud. Why do people get so freaked about ordering gear. WU is private info. Like the guy earlier said it would take a subpoena to pry out that info. Who the hell is going to bother? The only people that care about are the local distributors , if you ain't one don't worry.
No, it is called wire fraud. The Patriot Act allows the feds full access to international money transfers....no warrant or subpoena needed. Proving wire fraud would require a picture of you making the transfer under a false name. If you use your real name you are in a federal database 100% guaranteed.
 
medical said:
No, it is called wire fraud. The Patriot Act allows the feds full access to international money transfers....no warrant or subpoena needed. Proving wire fraud would require a picture of you making the transfer under a false name. If you use your real name you are in a federal database 100% guaranteed.


Big deal, you are in a federal database along with 150 million other people who use WU !!!!! I am paranoid, but not that paraonoid. It may matter if you are wiring money to Iran in large amounts.
 
Twoguns said:
Big deal, you are in a federal database along with 150 million other people who use WU !!!!! I am paranoid, but not that paraonoid. It may matter if you are wiring money to Iran in large amounts.


agree but many of these international sources use the same name for months even years at a time. I have a feeling the LE agencies know these names and it would be very easy for them to monitor it. If we can get a name to send cash to im pretty sure they can too!!
 
No matter what we may do to prevent any form of legal action to be taken against us, the one thing we need to remember is: If you play with fire, the chances are that you might get burned. All we can do is be as cautious as we can.
 
about 5 years ago i got a letter from w/u i opened it they wanted me to respond seems they had been cuaght skimming money during the pay out in chezch republic and paid out in local currency to low versus the usa exchange rate.
sent money on a monday and the reciever got it 7 days later and the american dollar had fallen so they paid out the lower rate of the day he collected rather then the day i sent the usa currency.Wich is illegal or some how cuaght and w/u was ordered to give refunds to customers.I had 4 trasactions to collect on.

i got nervous at first thinking it was a usa govt way of getting me to admit to w/u and see if i'll take the money that way it could incriminate me

well that was the first few orders at amscott and they required a person sending money over seas to have a photo id. company regulations not w/u but amscott corporate policey.

so now i use sweetbay and the girl up front will send as much as i need with no id at all i think she does not know about the 500$ max then id needed she just takes the info types and ask for cash.

so w/u does keep track of all the records I imagine they are not to hard to get.
 
I always use Western Union to send my donations to the missionaries in different countries. Giving is good for you. Donate as much as you can to spread the word.

:)
 
my_pain said:
Been using my real name on WU for years. It's when you use a fake name you run into trouble. It's called mail fraud. Why do people get so freaked about ordering gear. WU is private info. Like the guy earlier said it would take a subpoena to pry out that info. Who the hell is going to bother? The only people that care about are the local distributors , if you ain't one don't worry.
its not mail fruad. you can use a fake name on the w/u but still have it mailed to your real name and adress.
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hrlydvdson1 said:
hypothetical question...lets say that as a newbie someone (in their own name) sent western unions to another country, never more than $1000 at any time. as time passed and more was learned about the game concern could set in. they have never been investigated in any regard. however, rumors are rampant around work that he must be "on". These records are easily attained? What possible reason would one have to send money to a foreign country? Just a question i would like some insight on. thanks for your well informed answers....................HD 1


Just curious why so many people still mess with overseas gear besides human grade stuff? Just use domestic, fast, easy, and less risks. Just my 2.543cc
 
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