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Well, That Didn't Take Long.

Nelson Montana said:
GET THIS THORUGH YOUR STUPID FUCKING THICK HEAD JA.

SLANDERING SOMEONES REPUTATION IS NOT "GOOD FUN".

CALLING SOMEONE A PLAGERIST IS NOT "ENTERTAINING."

LET'S RE-CAP OUR HISTORY.


YOU ARGUED WITH ME ABOUT CLOMID. THEN WHEN IT DIDN'T WORK FOR YOU YOU CAME CRYING FOR HELP.

YOU APPOLOGIZED ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS FOR FLAMING ONCE THE TIDE OF THE BOARD MEMEBERS TURNED AGAINST YOU . AS SOON AS YOU WERE FORGIVEN, YOU STARTED RIGHT UP AGAIN.

YOU MADE CLAIMS THAT SOMETHING WAS A "KNOWN FACT" AND THEN WHEN YOU WERE PROVEN WRONG YOU SAY; "JUST KIDDING!"

DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT DO THIS!!!


The list goes on and on. I have no problem with disagreements. But I have no time for jackasses who just want to make trouble.

It's obvious JA will continue this until the Mods stop him. So here we go. Mods? All I ask is that JA be banned from this board. As far as I'm concerned he can post on any other EF forum. Fair enough?

:bawling: :bawling:


Who fuck said it didn't work? I was completely shutdown and I crashed hard off a very androgenic cycle (Note: I was doing mroe than 2g's a week). Clomid is not a miracle drug but has been shown (under controlled medical studies I might add) to speed up the recovery process.

So the board "forgave me" for flaming you? LOL. You are you fucking delusional???

"YOU MADE CLAIMS THAT SOMETHING WAS A "KNOWN FACT" AND THEN WHEN YOU WERE PROVEN WRONG YOU SAY; "JUST KIDDING!"

Are you talking about your plagiarizing of Bill Roberts? I still say you did and backed it up. The burden of proof is on you now. Post your earliest article about it and I will post and earlier article written by Bill.

"It's obvious JA will continue this until the Mods stop him. So here we go. Mods? All I ask is that JA be banned from this board. As far as I'm concerned he can post on any other EF forum. Fair enough?"

I don't see it happening Nelson. Maybe if you got down on your knees and begged they might take pity on your ass and politely ask me to leave but until then I'm here to stay and call you on your shit!
 
Juice Authority said:
That's a piss poor example if you ask me. I gave you the site where I got the information and the scientific journal that it came from.

http://nsinte1.moe.edu.sg/project/wt/readroom.nsf/0/2584a93ffcecf3844825671200125558?OpenDocument

Article from Nutrition Science News March 1997 - Volume 2 No 3


Oh..ok. I thought in that discussion you were advocating high protein diets in order to gain weight (I think some people were talking like 2+g/lb or something.)

My mistake...although that link was nowhere near being scientific. I agree with you on the 3x RDA thing.

And I'm not going to search for times when you couldn't back somethng up...i got no time for that. Although, on that same thread you said this:

"lets address the insulin issue. Your pancreas secretes insulin into the bloodstream in response to the food you eat. Insulin drives nutrients into muscles by stimulating the sodium/potassium pump located within the cell surface. Stimulating this pump is required for active transports of essential nutrients (carbohydrates and amino acids) into cells. The presence of insulin channels nutritional materials toward cell anabolism (growth) and prevents catabolism."



Try backing that up...LOL.
 
Bulldog_10 said:
"lets address the insulin issue. Your pancreas secretes insulin into the bloodstream in response to the food you eat. Insulin drives nutrients into muscles by stimulating the sodium/potassium pump located within the cell surface. Stimulating this pump is required for active transports of essential nutrients (carbohydrates and amino acids) into cells. The presence of insulin channels nutritional materials toward cell anabolism (growth) and prevents catabolism."

Try backing that up...LOL.

You're can be a real ass, you know that? Here's your fucking proof straight from Paul Cribb B.H.Sci.HMS - word from word!

http://www.ast-ss.com/dev/qa_search/full_text.asp?ID=1853

Q: I always hear talk in bodybuilding magazines and chat rooms about insulin. In plain English, can you tell me what insulin does and why spiking insulin levels are beneficial to building muscle?


A: "Getting phenomenal results from resistance training depends on how you manage insulin secretion. You won't grow muscle simply because you've decided that's what you want to do! You have to slant every nutritional component in your favor. This starts and ends with managing your body’s natural secretion of insulin.

Your pancreas secretes insulin into the bloodstream in response to the food you eat. Insulin drives nutrients into muscles by stimulating the sodium/potassium pump located within the cell surface. Stimulating this pump is required for active transport of essential nutrients (carbohydrates and amino acids) into cells. The presence of insulin in the blood channels nutritional materials toward cell anabolism (growth) and prevents catabolism (breakdown). Regarding insulin manipulation for muscle growth, there are two aspects we need to concern ourselves with:"

Now, how do your credentials size up to Paul Cribb?

Paul Cribb B.H.Sci.HMS.
AST Director of Research
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Paul is an Exercise Physiologist currently working toward his Doctorate at the Footscray Campus of Victoria University, Australia.

A native Australian, he has been an athlete his entire life. Blending hands-on athleticism with his intellectual astuteness is a perfect compliment to the AST Sports Science philosophy.

Paul has earned a Bachelor's degree in Health Science (Exercise Physiology) and another Bachelor's degree in Chemical Science (Biochemistry) with honors. He is currently a Ph.D candidate examining the effects of nutritional supplementation on body composition and athletic performance.
 
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So you plageurized some misinformation? Nelson...Have a field day.

BTW, Na,K-ATPases are what cause muscle cell depolarization in the sarcolemma. They transport exactly what they say they transport...sodium and potassium, via the breakdown of ATP for energy.

Insulin on the other hand causes glut-4 receptors (glucose transporter proteins) to be translocated from the sarcoplasm to the cell membrane (in the transverse-tubules), which allow glucose and other nutrients into the cell.

I'd like to know where that MD got his degree.
 
Bulldog_10 said:
So you plageurized some misinformation? Nelson...Have a field day.

BTW, Na,K-ATPases are what cause muscle cell depolarization in the sarcolemma. They transport exactly what they say they transport...sodium and potassium, via the breakdown of ATP for energy.

Insulin on the other hand causes glut-4 receptors (glucose transporter proteins) to be translocated from the sarcoplasm to the cell membrane (in the transverse-tubules), which allow glucose and other nutrients into the cell.

I'd like to know where that MD got his degree.

Plaigerized??? I never passed that off as my own knowledge you moron!
 
Bulldog_10 said:
So first you say he's an MD...now he's jsut an exercise physiologist? (Which I will be in 3 months, BTW).


Ph.D!!!
 
Juice Authority said:
Plaigerized??? I never passed that off as my own knowledge you moron!

Did you mention where you got that info the first time you posted it? No. You were trying to sound smart, and got called on it.
 
Bulldog_10 said:
Did you mention where you got that info the first time you posted it? No. You were trying to sound smart, and got called on it.

You called me on what?? You asked me to bck up that statement and I just did. So if anything, I called myself on it since I just posted where I got it? When did I pass that off as my own knowledge?? When??? I posted the info I read not as my opinion but as a substantiated fact. You asked me to back up my statement, which wasn’t mine to begin with, and I posted the link. Now, defeated in your accusation you call it plagiarism. How lame!
 
Oh...and might I mention that your "expert" Pual CRibb is trying to sell supplements when he is talking about this stuff...so take it for what you will.

And if you think I'm a "real ass" just think about how nelson feels about you! LOL!
 
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