Well, That Didn't Take Long.

[Wrongun]

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As far as I'm concerned, JA and Nelson are on a level playing field. You came here to box, let's see a clean fight. Break clean when the ref says "break" and go back to a neutral corner on a knockdown.

Have to say i think that is a shame. Yes even playing field and yes Nelson can be and is very abrubt when challenged but i did think this was still part of a body building discussion and not chat. If the ''gloves off'' was all to do with specific debate surrounding training, AAS, Supplements etc then great but i think the point is it has become simply a mud slinging exercise (not singling out JA but with many) and so we do lose the benefit of Nelsons thoughts

Looks like i was wrong and it is an extension of the chat board so there is nothing to see here

Wrongun!

 

[manny78]

Digger is right. This board rocks and as long as no one falls into the "your daughter is a bitch" thing, then we wont be banning anyone. Naeblis got caught with both hands in the cookie jar ahahahahaha... so funny.

Btw, could someone go on AF and bring E2 here ?

 

[Juice Authority]

Have to say i think that is a shame. Yes even playing field and yes Nelson can be and is very abrubt when challenged but i did think this was still part of a body building discussion and not chat. If the ''gloves off'' was all to do with specific debate surrounding training, AAS, Supplements etc then great but i think the point is it has become simply a mud slinging exercise (not singling out JA but with many) and so we do lose the benefit of Nelsons thoughts

Looks like i was wrong and it is an extension of the chat board so there is nothing to see here

Wrongun!

Wrongun Bro,

You know the history between Nelson and me. Yeah there's an occasional flame or two but if you look back at most of the posts I made in this forum in you'll notice that I've tried debating Nelson's comments with evidence to the contrary and he has yet to address any of my points. Sure, I admit I enjoy getting a rise out of him but I also enjoy debating his theories/opinions. Now the BS regarding Bill Roberts was meant to bust his balls. I'll admit that but I've also tried to discuss and debate many of statements and he either ignores it or discredits the source of the information.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I appreciate digger looking out for things and I always respect mannys comments. But I think the issue is misunderstood in this case.

I'm all for an even playing field -- as long as it has to do with training, supplements, anabolcis or anything related to bodybuilding. The truth of the matter is, what has occured here is EXACTLY of the "your daughter's a bitch" variety.

I don't give a flying fuck if JA thinks this is fun. The guy admits he is being antgonistic with no end in site. He admits to arguing just for the sake of arguing. And he admits to lying. Then, he tries to save face by saying 'I was just busting your balls."

THIS IS NOT WHY I HAVE THIS BOARD AND I WILL NOT CONTINUE IT UNDER THESE CONDITIONS.

If you want a board to just aimlessy insult other people, go find some grade school chat board for losers.

Naiblis was ridiculous but at least he was amusing. It was so over the top , no one took it seriously. JA is a pathological trouble maker. He's been that way every day for years. As far as I'm concerned, the wrong guy was banned.

 

[Juice Authority]

I appreciate digger looking out for things and I always respect mannys comments. But I think the issue is misunderstood in this case.

I'm all for an even playing field -- as long as it has to do with training, supplements, anabolcis or anything related to bodybuilding. The truth of the matter is, what has occured here is EXACTLY of the "your daughter's a bitch" variety.

I don't give a flying fuck if JA thinks this is fun. The guy admits he is being antgonistic with no end in site. He admits to arguing just for the sake of arguing. And he admits to lying. Then, he tries to save face by saying 'I was just busting your balls."

THIS IS NOT WHY I HAVE THIS BOARD AND I WILL NOT CONTINUE IT UNDER THESE CONDITIONS.

If you want a board to just aimlessy insult other people, go find some grade school chat board for losers.

Naiblis was ridiculous but at least he was amusing. It was so over the top , no one took it seriously. JA is a pathological trouble maker. He's been that way every day for years. As far as I'm concerned, the wrong guy was banned.

Ok, now that your panties are in an uproar let me clarify the following:

1) I honestly disagree with many of your claims so you're wrong I don't just argue for the sake of arguing. I find some of your theories and advice terribly flawed and I make an effort to point that out. Let's face Nelson; you just don’t like being criticized. You can’t handle it.

2) I NEVER admitted to lying! I admitted to busting your balls with the Bill Roberts thing mainly because I found the fact that you plagiarized his work entertaining.

3) Pathological troublemaker? Why, because I ask your back up you theories with proven facts or data that substantiates your position?

4) And lastly, if digger or one of the Mods find what I'm doing here harmful to the integrity of the board I'm sure they will tell me to stop. Until then, the party continues....

 

[Bulldog_10]

Most of Nelson's ideas are right on the money...if you disagree, back it up. You always just give your opinions...rarely do you back it up with any evidence.

Once again I will sum up what Nelson is trying to inculcate into the minds of the uninformed:

Hard work is what gets you results. Not supplements, not steroids, not nutrient timing. You can try all the gimics you want...none of them are going to work. If you want to work hard in the gym, then do it and see results...if not, try all the miracle diets and drugs you want...but it ain't gonna get you nowhere.

If you disagree with that...well, you need to come back to reality...see you then.

 

[Nelson Montana]

GET THIS THORUGH YOUR STUPID FUCKING THICK HEAD JA.

SLANDERING SOMEONES REPUTATION IS NOT "GOOD FUN".

CALLING SOMEONE A PLAGERIST IS NOT "ENTERTAINING."

LET'S RE-CAP OUR HISTORY.


YOU ARGUED WITH ME ABOUT CLOMID. THEN WHEN IT DIDN'T WORK FOR YOU YOU CAME CRYING FOR HELP.

YOU APPOLOGIZED ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS FOR FLAMING ONCE THE TIDE OF THE BOARD MEMEBERS TURNED AGAINST YOU . AS SOON AS YOU WERE FORGIVEN, YOU STARTED RIGHT UP AGAIN.

YOU MADE CLAIMS THAT SOMETHING WAS A "KNOWN FACT" AND THEN WHEN YOU WERE PROVEN WRONG YOU SAY; "JUST KIDDING!"

DECENT PEOPLE DO NOT DO THIS!!!


The list goes on and on. I have no problem with disagreements. But I have no time for jackasses who just want to make trouble.

It's obvious JA will continue this until the Mods stop him. So here we go. Mods? All I ask is that JA be banned from this board. As far as I'm concerned he can post on any other EF forum. Fair enough?

 

[Juice Authority]

You always just give your opinions...rarely do you back it up with any evidence.

Really?? Show me where.

 

[Bulldog_10]

I know this doesn't count...because you sort of half-assed a reference...but I've been wondering about this. You told me you read a study where it showed that 3g/lb of protein was not overkill or something like that. You gave me the issue of something, but I'm not sure it was a journal...

I'm not saying you didn't back it up...beacuse I haven't been able to fnd the study...but could you help me out finding it? Or copy and paste it?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310858&page=2&pp=40&highlight=links/refs

 

[Juice Authority]

I know this doesn't count...because you sort of half-assed a reference...but I've been wondering about this. You told me you read a study where it showed that 3g/lb of protein was not overkill or something like that. You gave me the issue of something, but I'm not sure it was a journal...

I'm not saying you didn't back it up...beacuse I haven't been able to fnd the study...but could you help me out finding it? Or copy and paste it?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=310858&page=2&pp=40&highlight=links/refs

That's a piss poor example if you ask me. I gave you the site where I got the information and the scientific journal that it came from.

http://nsinte1.moe.edu.sg/project/wt/readroom.nsf/0/2584a93ffcecf3844825671200125558?OpenDocument

Article from Nutrition Science News March 1997 - Volume 2 No 3