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Lupercal CATS
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markshark said:
Don't start a cycle without allll your shit.
i thought i was fucking crazy for crying about my damn car...jesus man get some help...u sound like u abuse steroids...do u stay on year round?markshark said:
markshark, first off don't even think about starting a cycle until u have everything, including PCT. 2nd, what are u insane, can't leave the house unless u have test pumping through your body??? i hope you're kidding. what u NEED is to get out of the house to clear your head. go to fucking class u warped fuck. sitting around thinking about it will not do shit except stress yourself out which is not good for muscle growth. 3rd, if u are serious, go see a psychologist. think about getting a new reliable source. don't forget what i said first though.
Lupercal CATS
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markshark said:
Woahhhhhhhhhhhh. It's not the end of the world. Go out, get some fresh air and go to class.
dude dont put that shit in your head....thats why ur going to fuck up...go in the gym knowing your going to tear the shit out of some weightsmarkshark said:
ur fucked up bro...im guessing u stay on year roundmarkshark said:
Stainless_Steel
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WTF? You need some help brother. What are you going to do when your cycle is over or do you never come off? I'm not busting your balls but you need need to wake the fuck up and get that shit " I can't live without test" out of your head. You sound like a crackhead.
this is only my second cycle in 4 years. but now that im on it i realize how good it is and that going to a big university where there are girls everywhere and not getting any every year ive been up here, the test is actually doing me good, and if im not on it i cant live with myself. its been a living hell without it for the last 3 years. and now that im on it i have the chance of looking like a normal person.
sooo basically what ur saying is youre going to stay on forever? get help...
BigCracker
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If I quit cold turkey I don't think I'd feel the pinch for about 6 weeks.
just talk to someone bro...ur mom...ur dad...fuck PM some1 on this site...vent...think about how you can help yourself ...i know i sometimes have girl problems and i vent to some1 on this site and i feel a whole lot better after wards..try it...markshark said:
Lupercal CATS
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markshark said:
Man feel free to PM me. Sounds like you need to talk about some shit. Missing 3 test shots isn't the end of the world and certainly doesn't mean you don't have any test. No one looking at you is going to think, "Oh that man doesn't have any testosterone."
PM me if you want to talk. Acctually fuck that, PM me because you NEED to talk.
dks_pimpin_lexus
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Im glad I am a member of my home board. Just strolling though and I read this. Sitting here shaking my head. THis dude's got serious mental issues and this is only his second cycle?
Dude, listen to this and listen good. Steroids don't make the man, the man makes the man. Think about this. Look at all the people that get into accidents and the docs say they will never walk again. These miraculous people have the self discipline to make their bodies do what they demand of it. Point is, when one pushes themself pasts a certain point, you will get a reaction. You say you can feel normal now. I do feel what you are saying. I think the fact that people know they are on AAS puts something in the heads and makes them push harder with lifting.
The mind is a very strong part of the overall body. Steroids don't help you get the girl, going after her cause you want her helps you get her. Don't be shy. It will get you no where in life. Go for what you want in life. People will see this and have a certain respect for you thereafter believe it or not.
Oh yeah, don't give a fuck what people think. If you want to do something that will improve your life, do it. Just be smart about all things!
Good luck Bro
dks_pimpin_lexus
Dude, listen to this and listen good. Steroids don't make the man, the man makes the man. Think about this. Look at all the people that get into accidents and the docs say they will never walk again. These miraculous people have the self discipline to make their bodies do what they demand of it. Point is, when one pushes themself pasts a certain point, you will get a reaction. You say you can feel normal now. I do feel what you are saying. I think the fact that people know they are on AAS puts something in the heads and makes them push harder with lifting.
The mind is a very strong part of the overall body. Steroids don't help you get the girl, going after her cause you want her helps you get her. Don't be shy. It will get you no where in life. Go for what you want in life. People will see this and have a certain respect for you thereafter believe it or not.
Oh yeah, don't give a fuck what people think. If you want to do something that will improve your life, do it. Just be smart about all things!
Good luck Bro
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satchboogie
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i think otherwise than most here on this thread....
if the gear is making him feel good, then i think he should certainly stay on it for the TIME BEING!
but its quite clear that the good bro is using the steroids just like a drug addict uses drugs... to escape reality..
in such case, stay on the steroids but at the same time talk to a professional shrink about your situation bro...
i mean i understand where youre coming from believe me..
but you really dont want to be dependent on steroids forever...
so please do yourself a favor and take my advice seriously.
in the meantime, focus on training hard.
set a 2 year goal bro and dont let ANYTHING get in your way..
time above ground while on steroids is better than 6 feet under...
if the gear is making him feel good, then i think he should certainly stay on it for the TIME BEING!
but its quite clear that the good bro is using the steroids just like a drug addict uses drugs... to escape reality..
in such case, stay on the steroids but at the same time talk to a professional shrink about your situation bro...
i mean i understand where youre coming from believe me..
but you really dont want to be dependent on steroids forever...
so please do yourself a favor and take my advice seriously.
in the meantime, focus on training hard.
set a 2 year goal bro and dont let ANYTHING get in your way..
time above ground while on steroids is better than 6 feet under...
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satchboogie
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and why is everybody talkin about mental issues..
that certainly doesnt help the bro!!!!
so please be supportive and sympathize with the situation instead of dogging a good bro in need of slight direction...
that certainly doesnt help the bro!!!!
so please be supportive and sympathize with the situation instead of dogging a good bro in need of slight direction...
bro he has a problem that he needs to realize...by telling him that hes ok isnt going to help him at allsatchboogie said:
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satchboogie
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newbiebynature said:
there are certain ways to convey a point...
its not what you say..
its how you say it.
Bruce
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yeah but the last thing we want to hear is that a good bro is gonna kill himself over a few shots of test. thats why we are what we are; responsble for the most part on our cycles and advice. non biased and willing to help if we feel someone is not gonna hurt themselves. just don't convey the possibility that you do damage to yourself over some testosterone
Outtlaw
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What dose are you taking and what is your injection schedule like? If you're doing 2 shots a week, you're hardly in any trouble. Plus you've still got deca in your system. You could even throw in an oral for the time being. Stop over reacting.
A word of advice. AAS can accentuate depression problems. Steroids dont cause people to shoot themselves, but it can make people who are already suicidal much more likely to go through with it. If you have a problem, get off the gear and fix the problem before you run another cycle. Get on some medication if need be. These psychaitrist that are giving you pills.... TAKE THEM. They are trying to help you, so dont just disregard their diagnosis' and try to fix the problem yourself... because obviously you cant handle it.
A word of advice. AAS can accentuate depression problems. Steroids dont cause people to shoot themselves, but it can make people who are already suicidal much more likely to go through with it. If you have a problem, get off the gear and fix the problem before you run another cycle. Get on some medication if need be. These psychaitrist that are giving you pills.... TAKE THEM. They are trying to help you, so dont just disregard their diagnosis' and try to fix the problem yourself... because obviously you cant handle it.
growthspurt
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markshark said:
Bro,
I spoke to you a few weks back in a thread and I thought you were unstable then. You told me you were still a Virgin and it was because of how ugly you were. Ugly or not, your self-esteem sucks! Steroids are meant to bring you to the next level physically; not to bring you out of a mental gutter.
I said it to you before and I'll say it again; you wait until those roids show their ugly side when you finnally do get a girl in the sack and you can't get it up. What do you think that is going to do to someone with a fragile mental state like yourself? Not knowing shit about the compounds your using(and I don't think you do) sets you up for scenarios like that. Time to straighten out and wake up smell the coffee man! We're all here to help, but I think you need to talk to a doctor and get a plan in life. Take care.
fleabag711
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LoL. My luck hasn't been all that better. Anyway, I read the posts here and something that should be said is that people who are pre-disposed to mental problems certainly can feel suicidal and depressed when they are coming off. As some one stated earlier.. Their is a good way to convey advice and a bad way. So That being said. We can't presume to know your situation or know if you have serious issues. Anabolics put stress on the brain and users may later even develope manic states, their are psychiatrists set up for AS users specifically because of it's effect. You may have some self-esteem issues, but that can alway's be fixed. Things will get better. Get your test for now, but talk to someone like a psychologists and explain your situation like you did to these people. I had too...
BigCracker
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Outtlaw said:
Don't come to Phoenix for escorts then, for $110 you'll be lucky to get a smile and a polite hello. Streetwalker hookers are a different story-the charge $30-$40 for a bj but they might be a dude dressed like a girl.
growthspurt
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BigCracker said:Don't come to Phoenix for escorts then, for $110 you'll be lucky to get a smile and a polite hello. Streetwalker hookers are a different story-the charge $30-$40 for a bj but they might be a dude dressed like a girl.
Hey!! No discussing prices on this site! Jeeeez!
Big_Joe
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I didn't start a cycle until I was fifty and I got laid when ever I wanted it. It's not the test that gets you laid it's the self confidence you feel on test. But guess what, that's not the test either. You feel strong from the test and that gives you confidence. The confidence comes from you not the test. Change the way you look at yourself. If you can do it on test you can do it off. And change the way you look at women. Women want a man that treats them like a person not something warm and wet that slides up and down. If you don't think of them as objects but as people, treat them nice and make them feel safe you'll get more ass then you can handle.
no offense big joe, but assuming ur over 50, do u remember what it was like when u were 23? do you remember how horny u were? do u know how horny girls are at my age? how horny guys are? today girls want a cocky good-looking asshole to overtake them for one night, not to be a nice good guy pussy. i cant afford to be a nice guy anymore.
cdownie927
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Bro, give yourself a make over change your hair, by new cloths, change your cologne... Dont walk around with your head down hold it high, be nice but not to nice to girls, girls want a guy who is confident they want a guy who is nice to them but also one that keeps them thinking, thinking that they need you, not you need them, it will all come soon especially in school keep training and eating right, they will see
theprofessor
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first off bro, psychiatrists are the biggest joke in the world, have you guys ever known one and seen all the medications that they take? ridduculous (sp?) ammounts of crap that just messes up your head worse. if you believe in God/Jesus, I reccomend the Bible as a good source to comfort your situation. if not and you are interested in knowing about Him, PM me and we can talk.
Getting laid wont solve your problems, you want to feel accepted and loved and i know how that feels...i had parents that didnt want me... sex is not the same thing as love. take your time and find someone that loves YOU for YOU, not you jacked on roids. i got married 5 yrs ago and now im on my first cycle ever, i was a little guy then and im still no superman, but i know that my wife loved me way before i got a little bigger and she'll love me still after i get old and small
and as far as your workouts go, its all in your head. finding a good workout parttner would definately help push you though. and if i know right, the test should still be in your system a bit and missing workouts wont help at all
Good luck and God bless
Getting laid wont solve your problems, you want to feel accepted and loved and i know how that feels...i had parents that didnt want me... sex is not the same thing as love. take your time and find someone that loves YOU for YOU, not you jacked on roids. i got married 5 yrs ago and now im on my first cycle ever, i was a little guy then and im still no superman, but i know that my wife loved me way before i got a little bigger and she'll love me still after i get old and small
and as far as your workouts go, its all in your head. finding a good workout parttner would definately help push you though. and if i know right, the test should still be in your system a bit and missing workouts wont help at all
Good luck and God bless
IMO I rather you be addicted to gear then spending your life all all these bullshit pharmacuticals like anti-depressants, etc. that just cover up our unhappiness, it doesn't truly make us happy on a holistic level. Hell, we don't even know the long term effects of the pharms, yet they are prescribed like candy.
I say do whatever makes you happy bro as long as you're not hurting anyone else, just know the consequences of your actions and be ready to accept them when/if they happens.
I say do whatever makes you happy bro as long as you're not hurting anyone else, just know the consequences of your actions and be ready to accept them when/if they happens.
used2juice
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Am I the only one who thinks this thread is rediculous?
Take offense if necessary, but this is not a psych ward, this is a bbing forum. Infact this PARTICULAR forum is for discussions on AAS, not for discussions on why pitiful people can't get laid and why it's okay to stay on year round if it'll make him feel better.
If I came on here saying I'm depressed and only snorting a ball of coke everynight gets me through it, would you guys really tell me that it's okay for now?
Is this really the kind of person we want to bring into our community? Anyone feel free to take him on as a private mission if you will, but I don't think this forum or board should be here to cater to his psychological shortcomings.
Take offense if necessary, but this is not a psych ward, this is a bbing forum. Infact this PARTICULAR forum is for discussions on AAS, not for discussions on why pitiful people can't get laid and why it's okay to stay on year round if it'll make him feel better.
If I came on here saying I'm depressed and only snorting a ball of coke everynight gets me through it, would you guys really tell me that it's okay for now?Is this really the kind of person we want to bring into our community? Anyone feel free to take him on as a private mission if you will, but I don't think this forum or board should be here to cater to his psychological shortcomings.
BigCracker
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used2juice said:Am I the only one who thinks this thread is rediculous?
Take offense if necessary, but this is not a psych ward, this is a bbing forum. Infact this PARTICULAR forum is for discussions on AAS, not for discussions on why pitiful people can't get laid and why it's okay to stay on year round if it'll make him feel better.
Is this really the kind of person we want to bring into our community? Anyone feel free to take him on as a private mission if you will, but I don't think this forum or board should be here to cater to his psychological shortcomings.
I would.
I've said this before and now I'm saying it again. RX Drugs, recreational drugs, alcohol, tobacco, caffeine, sex, porn, food, gambling, shopping, the internet, video games, shopping, religion-it's all dope to somebody out there. Anyone that overindulges in any of these things to the point where it effects their life, health, or emotional well being, in a negative way is an addict-and shouldn't be pointing their fingers. Just because some of these things are more socially acceptable to some people than others doesn't make their use/abuse any better or worse. As individuals we all have our quirks. One man's meat is another man's poison. Some guys use roids, others smoke crack. One's abilities to manage these things responsibly is the only thing that set's one apart from the rest.
This thread poster puts his pants on one leg at a time just like every other guy here. Granted, he needs to pull it the fuck together, but slamming him isn't what he needs. He needs a better source or a relocation to Mexico. If that doesn't help him, I doubt anything will. I just hope he realizes this.
Steve The Bluesman
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First of all, missing three shots of sust is not going to make you shrivel up, esp when still on deca. Many bros do deca alone and grow plenty. Get your gear, and start the test right back up.
The bigger issue though is this connection you have of being on and being attractive and confident. That is not the way it works. You have to examine honestly why you are on gear in the first place. Everyone has different reasons (for me it was to increase my game) but I also enjoy the other benefits - high libido, confidence, feeling of well being...but when I am not on gear, I really don't have problems with libido, confidence, or genreally feeling good. In other words, I do not use it as a crutch - or as someone else said, a recreational drug that is abused for the wrong reasons.
If you are on gear to try and make up for some pshychological issues that you have (I assume this is an issue, as you said you have been to shrinks who just prescribe you pills), then you have a problem, simple as that.
You need to get some help, and not from this board, either. We don't know you and there are things you may not be telling us.
Family, friends, pastor, doctor, shink...you have to talk to someone and lay it all out on the line. It will be the only way to get your head straight.
It sounds like gear for you is a band aid, and the damage you have sounds far too extensive to be fixed with a band aid.
Good luck bro,
Bluesman
The bigger issue though is this connection you have of being on and being attractive and confident. That is not the way it works. You have to examine honestly why you are on gear in the first place. Everyone has different reasons (for me it was to increase my game) but I also enjoy the other benefits - high libido, confidence, feeling of well being...but when I am not on gear, I really don't have problems with libido, confidence, or genreally feeling good. In other words, I do not use it as a crutch - or as someone else said, a recreational drug that is abused for the wrong reasons.
If you are on gear to try and make up for some pshychological issues that you have (I assume this is an issue, as you said you have been to shrinks who just prescribe you pills), then you have a problem, simple as that.
You need to get some help, and not from this board, either. We don't know you and there are things you may not be telling us.
Family, friends, pastor, doctor, shink...you have to talk to someone and lay it all out on the line. It will be the only way to get your head straight.
It sounds like gear for you is a band aid, and the damage you have sounds far too extensive to be fixed with a band aid.
Good luck bro,
Bluesman
Dude the reality is getting more muscular isn't going to get you the ladies anymore than it does now.
I have slept with about 50-60 chics and I was a poor mother fucker. But I was decent looking - and skinny as fuck. Now that I am bigger and a lot more muscular, I think I scare the ladies away more than anything. Or you just get the nasty ones that want to feel your arms lol.
It is all in your head - try not to think about it. Or at least save up some more money and get laid next time and you will see its not everything in the world.
I have slept with about 50-60 chics and I was a poor mother fucker. But I was decent looking - and skinny as fuck. Now that I am bigger and a lot more muscular, I think I scare the ladies away more than anything. Or you just get the nasty ones that want to feel your arms lol.
It is all in your head - try not to think about it. Or at least save up some more money and get laid next time and you will see its not everything in the world.
Big_Joe
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markshark said:
Of course I remember. You think cause I'm fifty I'm feeble??? I know what insecurity is like, that's why I am saying what I am saying to you. It's the insecurity that is bring you down.
When I was twenty I set a goal for myself to own or operate my own business by the time I was twenty five. I did it when I was twenty three and it was easy and I was successful!! That's a great confedence builder. Have you set any goals in your life?? Anything at all?? I have seen so many people fail because they didn't try. Not because they couldn't do it but because they didn't try. Set a goal and make it your mission in life to attain it. DO that once and you will see what I am saying.
And this shit that "today girls want a cocky good-looking asshole to overtake them for one night, not to be a nice good guy pussy. " Is a bunch of crap from your own head. Do you think that there has been a massive change in the human animal in the last twenty five years that has somehow changed relationships between men and women??? Here's the secret, women use sex to get love! They go through the same shit you are going through, insecurity. That's why they spend so much time and money on makeup and clothes. They want to be loved and they think that the only way they can get that is by using sex. They are just as insecure as you are so they want someone that's secure in themselves not someone that's insecure as they are.
I knew a young man that worked at the shooting range I go to. He was all scared about having to take algebra. It told him how to ace it. I said everyday after lecture go to the math lab and do all the problems for the section you just studied in lecture. Not just the homework problems but all of them. If you do it right after lecture it will be fresh in your head and it will be easy. I didn't see him again for almost a year. When I say him again it was across a big parking lot. He ran full tilt up to me shouting "I did what you said and I got an A." I could tell he was not used to getting A's.
SO here is my suggestion for you. Pick a hard science class, not some liberal arts limp dick class, but something that will make you work. Everyday work on that class, and I mean everyday. Make office hours for the prof your second home. Put all of yourself into it, all of yourself. You will be amazed at what you can do.
There will be times that you are going to tell yourself you can't go it. Don't listen!! Know you can do it, see yourself doing it, believe in yourself and don't give up!!!
awol1
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I don't know if I can lend anymore advice than already given...IMO steroids are not the answer for you, BUT to suddenly stop taking them may give your mind and body and unbearable amount of stress. It could easily be disasterous. You are not quite ready for that.
You say you have seen shrinks before but say they aren't working. Fine. I can understand that sentiment. But there are a lot of shrinks out there you haven't seen yet. Point is, many follow their own paradigm which may not jive with what you need to accomplish.
Go to another one. If you don't like him/her, move on to the next. Do not feel obligated to any one doctor. A good therapist would much rather surrender you to another before putting your health in jeopardy or do bad work.
And drugs (pharmaceutical intervention not steriods or coke) are not for everyone. I personally feel there is plenty of scientific evidence which proves they can have a dramatic effect on a person. They wouldnt be prescribed unless there wasn't.
And any good psychiatrist would change meds on you after they realize it is not working. Unfortunately it can take time to find the right "cocktail" and take a while to see results.
In any event...good luck. Try to figure things out. There are people out there that will help you.
You say you have seen shrinks before but say they aren't working. Fine. I can understand that sentiment. But there are a lot of shrinks out there you haven't seen yet. Point is, many follow their own paradigm which may not jive with what you need to accomplish.
Go to another one. If you don't like him/her, move on to the next. Do not feel obligated to any one doctor. A good therapist would much rather surrender you to another before putting your health in jeopardy or do bad work.
And drugs (pharmaceutical intervention not steriods or coke) are not for everyone. I personally feel there is plenty of scientific evidence which proves they can have a dramatic effect on a person. They wouldnt be prescribed unless there wasn't.
And any good psychiatrist would change meds on you after they realize it is not working. Unfortunately it can take time to find the right "cocktail" and take a while to see results.
In any event...good luck. Try to figure things out. There are people out there that will help you.
Will young
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cdownie927 said:
IMO the best advice here, also I risk getting flamed here but IMO you're weak bro WTF man-up, being a slave to roids aint the answer. I aint a don with the ladies either but I find my pleasures elsewhere theres more to life. Its hard but stay strong and I do hope your sort it bro it aint nice!
Lupercal CATS
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Big_Joe said:
Very good advice.
fleabag711
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awol1. Well said.
Bruce
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pussy is all about confidence, some of the ugliest people i know get tons of pussy and quality pussy at that. girls can smell weakness or shyness. you cant give a fuck my friend, if a girl turns you down its her loss. keep your head up, think more highly of yourself. i am personally very cocky, i do not give a shit about what people think. approach whatever girl you want, you will get turned down but you will also pull ass if you are sure of yourself. you won't win them all no one does, but quit calling yourself ugly because if you can't respect yourself no one is going to. i hope you get laid tonight bro take care
Gman1
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dude they gym is not life.... its a hobbie even ronnie wouldnt kill himself if he couldnt juice, juice isnt everthing in life man... and IMO until you realize theres more to life than the gym and juice i wouldnt get back on... i love bb but i know theres more to life than looking good.. dont be so vein, be a little dementional... and FOR GOSH SAKES if you kill yourself for a few missed shots damn dude, get some help...
Easier said the done. I got one good small order from BigD Deca and Anadrol now 4 weeks later it appears he kept my money on the bigger order after calling him out on the fraud site eroids.Shouldn't have started. Now I have the night sweats bad and I guess I have to try quitting and some PCT. Just find a reliable source he says. But you can't trust anyone. Great.
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