Weighted Dips

[Behemoth]

Anyone doing weighted dips?

I workout with the godfather of old school training. He is a monster for his age and weight.

He is 54. 5'10 and weighs around 185. He's repping 315 on bench for 5.

And he believes in these weighted dips. He's straps on 2 45lb plates for 2x10.

Ive been doing them for the last month. I can finally get 2x10 with one 45lb plate. Figure into this equation I weigh 289 lbs.

AM I WASTING MY TIME WITH THIS??

 

[s8nlilhlpr]

weighted dips are a greater exercise for your chest. Just watch your elbows, try to keep em in, and any shoulder pain. they are horrible for some peoples shoulders, but I think they just do em wrong.

 

[xblitz44x]

It's a great exercise. Unfortunately, the dip bar at my gym happens to be the same stupid bench they use for abdominal leg raises so a) we have to basically fight skinny, spikey haired abercrombie dudes looking to get in beach shape for the bench, and b) the bars are a little too wide for me and I do often experience said shoulder pain.

 

[s8nlilhlpr]

It's a great exercise. Unfortunately, the dip bar at my gym happens to be the same stupid bench they use for abdominal leg raises so a) we have to basically fight skinny, spikey haired abercrombie dudes looking to get in beach shape for the bench, and b) the bars are a little too wide for me and I do often experience said shoulder pain.

You could always pull 2 benchs together and do dips that way. Just sit a plate on your legs. Makes em a&f boy's stare.

 

[Tweakle]

I'm doing them as my 2nd rotation chest exercise right now and pretty much all my ME work is with dips as they're way less stressful on my shoulders than barbell work.. but my bodytype is suited for them, by the sound of it yours isn't (you're tall with long arms)

Marvin Eder apparently did 7 reps with an extra 400lbs in the 50's.. something to think on.

 

[BiggT]

I love dips, I'm not doing them this training cycle just because there is only room to focus on so much, but your old school buddy is right on, they will do wonders for your upper body pressing, provided they don't cause any pain/irritation.

 

[Anthrax Invasion]

Dips are the upper body squat.

Tweakle - 400 lbs? I really doubt that.

 

[al420]

weighted dips are a greater exercise for your chest. Just watch your elbows, try to keep em in, and any shoulder pain. they are horrible for some peoples shoulders, but I think they just do em wrong.

I thought you wanted wide elbows for chest dips - if I pull in my elbows I an only using my triceps and shoulders to move myself up - I think elbows out is the way to go - and I do wide grip dips as the 3rd and final chest exercise weekly.

 

[Protobuilder]

Well doubt in one hand and shit in the other, turd. LoL

 

[lifersfc]

Personally, dips just fuck with my shoulders. Everytime I go heavy (3 plates for 6-8 reps), my rotator cuffs get strained or something. Neither flat, incline, nor decline bother my shoulders though.

 

[al420]

Well doubt in one hand and shit in the other, turd. LoL

I bet I can do them elbows-out w/ your Mommy strapped to my belt - what's she tippin the scales at these days?

 

[Dposey]

I thought you wanted wide elbows for chest dips - if I pull in my elbows I an only using my triceps and shoulders to move myself up - I think elbows out is the way to go - and I do wide grip dips as the 3rd and final chest exercise weekly.

If you want dips to work more of your chest you lean forward, if you want more tricep you try and stay upright I believe. I'm not sure if hand spacing has much to do with it.

 

[Tweakle]

AI - Eder wasn't human, bear in mind he was bench pressing over 500lbs in (allegedly, but who knows) pre-juice days at a bodyweight of under 200lbs. It was also pre-video footage days so who can tell... It's like paul andersons claims of 1000lb deadlifts, take it as you will

He could also do 8 reps in the wide grip chin with 200lbs attatched and do 11 one arm chins.

 

[Guinness5.0]

Personally, dips just fuck with my shoulders. Everytime I go heavy (3 plates for 6-8 reps), my rotator cuffs get strained or something. Neither flat, incline, nor decline bother my shoulders though.

It could be a depth issue - dips used to do the same to me but I shortened the movement a bt and no more pain. HTH

 

[s8nlilhlpr]

I assumed dips are similiar to bench press. Elbows out, your asking for a blown rotator. Just because you use triceps/lats to press up, its still going to hit your chest. kinda like when people relearn how to bench properly. 1st they insist on flaring their elbows out, but after a few sessions the groove hits and its much easier to do properly.

 

[Behemoth]

I like them. Now. It took a while to get use too.

But I will keep them in our routine.

 

[perp69]

When I do them I start with a shorter range of motion and then progress to a deeper one which seems to help the shoulder problem for me.

 

[Behemoth]

I have to start with a limited range of motion. Have to get things use to that movement.

 

[elitft_bouncer]

my personal experience with dips when i had once prioritized them in my 2nd year of training.
1 plate - pretty good size gains and some carryover into my bench
2 plates - size gains slowed, no carry over into bench
3 plates - no size gains, no carry over into bench
3.5 plates - shoulders/clavicle/collarbone started hurting, same as above

in conclusion (my personal opinion) --> good for beginners, gets less effective with the more plates u can attach on.

 

[theprofessor]

i like to do my dips with a dumbell "curled" between my legs

 

[Behemoth]

i like to do my dips with a dumbell "curled" between my legs

Every man wants to feel like he has something between his legs. If thats what it takes...go for it.

Just bustin yer ballz.

I have been using 45 lb plates. I saw a guy using a dumbell the other night and it look easier to handle.

 

[Extra_Strong]

well i love em.. Dips are my fav for tries

 

[vin01]

I found this method easier..

Instead of stringing plates thru the weight belt's chain, attach the chain with no plates, then take the chain (while a DB of choice is sitting in front of you on end) and use the chain's slack to hook over the far end (from your body). When you stand, the DB will hold.

If you can picture it, I find this method much more convenient and quicker then plates. Assuming your gym has DBs that go high enough (my gym has 120's and that's plenty enough weight for my dips).

 

[gstacker]

I found this method easier..

Instead of stringing plates thru the weight belt's chain, attach the chain with no plates, then take the chain (while a DB of choice is sitting in front of you on end) and use the chain's slack to hook over the far end (from your body). When you stand, the DB will hold.

If you can picture it, I find this method much more convenient and quicker then plates. Assuming your gym has DBs that go high enough (my gym has 120's and that's plenty enough weight for my dips).

thats a exellent idea only problem at the gym i use the dumbells are on the far side of the wall and only go up to 100

 

[Guinness5.0]

Vin01:

I agree 100%. After dropping plates and generally making a fool of myself for months I finally discovered that a DB will stay in there very securely.