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We should ad an advanced users and vets section to this board?

Wouldnt it be great if we had an advanced user and vets and mods section of this board for experienced users so we can discuss real doses and durations and techniques between ourselves with out fear of a noobie going on to trying it and hurting themselfs?Me for example I get tired of reading post after post of stuff that I have read 1 million times.You all know what I mean"Can I drink the Winy?"."Think I have Gyno help".Is this an abcess?I dont mind coming in here and helping the new guys out, but I myself dont ever see true doses or techniches from the big boys on here.We all know that most of us that have been using for a while dont do 8 week cycles of 500mg of test per week.Like myself most probably dont discuss cycles and things like this for fear that a novice might go out and do something wrong and hurt them selfs.Then it would be our fault for posting.It would be nice if we could have a separate section of the board for the veteran bros that stay on all year and go on cruising periods when off.
 
I agree it would be nice to bring back some advantages to being plat. I love the c and c forum but would also enjoy a forum that you had to earn your way in via the mods and vets. I am sure I am not there yet but think of the advantages of a clean forum based on contributions to EF. I feel it would just give EF one more advantage over the other boards.
 
While I don't consider myself a vet or advanced user, I do see this as a benefit. I know a lot of the guys on here are "professional" in their approach to gear and would like something like that not only to call their own, but to get some real or more experienced feedback.

The only drawback I see is that guys like myself get an awful lot out of reading posts from guys like needsize or radar, etc that have and are running larger doses/multiple compounds. Knowledge is power and I get a ton of it reading these posts.

Maybe it could be set up that unless you are a member of that paticular forum, you can only read and not post? Just a thought.
 
I agree....to a degree. What constitutes a vet? A newbie to the board does not necessarily mean the person is new to the AAS game. There are plenty of EF "newbies" that have a vast pool of knowledge. The number of posts under a persons avatar is not necessarily proportional to the amount of experience or knowledge that they have. Boards shut down and people find new boards. I used to be a "vet" at the anabolic zone.com. I still learned (and do learn) a l lot of info from newbs.
 
Great idea!!!! :Chef: :tuc:
 
I think that other bros will still come in here to help of course,I know I would always be in here helping and reading posts because this is and will always one of the busiest and most entertaining parts of the board.I just think they should be a part were every1 should be able to openly discuss their cycles and techniches and things like taht with out worrying about a first time user coming on and reading it and going out and lets say doing 15 ius of slin for a first time because some one like Needsize or a vet said they did it.I know a lot of bros dont discuss the truth on here because of fear of that.Some of us are at a level were we cant benefit from your regular cycling and need to tweak things and try things that most novice bros could grow with out.I know right now at 190 lbs and 5'6" bellow 10% bf I find it hard to believe I can benefit much from a novice cycle.But I know most of us would still live on this side of the board just because it feels good to help out even if were not learning much.
 
bilter said:
I agree....to a degree. What constitutes a vet? A newbie to the board does not necessarily mean the person is new to the AAS game. There are plenty of EF "newbies" that have a vast pool of knowledge. The number of posts under a persons avatar is not necessarily proportional to the amount of experience or knowledge that they have. Boards shut down and people find new boards. I used to be a "vet" at the anabolic zone.com. I still learned (and do learn) a l lot of info from newbs.
By seeing a few responses by a member you can usually tell if they are noobies or not though,regardless of the post count.For example you will never hear me ask "Can you drink winy?".
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gymratforlife said:
By seeing a few responses by a member you can usually tell if they are noobies or not though,regardless of the post count.For example you will never hear me ask "Can you drink winy?".
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Ok, now you've got me.............I agree. Not much else can say..................can I inject anavar???? :mix: J/K don't flame me :)

Really though if you could make it work it would be good, controlling it though may be tough. From what I have seen it works great in the beginnig and then before long you end up with what you had becasuse everyone wants in on a good thing.
 
gymratforlife said:
.Like myself most probably dont discuss cycles and things like this for fear that a novice might go out and do something wrong and hurt them selfs.Then it would be our fault for posting.


This isn't true. It's not your fault if someone else does something stupid it's their fault. If someone makes a post some like:
I am on my one hundred and forty seventh cycle and I think I need a little boost. So I was going to wash down one hundred and fifty dbol with quart of winny a day and do a gram each of test, eq and deca every hour. What do you guys think?

It's not your fault if some idiot with a brand new set of Joe Weider weights decides to do this. It's the same as if we were talking about motorcycle racing. If I post "Man I took deadmans curve laid way over at one seventy five yesterday." Then some idiot goes out and tries it himself and ends up donating his liver to someone that did to many orals. It's not my fault it's his fault.
 
wayneboard1 said:
While I don't consider myself a vet or advanced user, I do see this as a benefit. I know a lot of the guys on here are "professional" in their approach to gear and would like something like that not only to call their own, but to get some real or more experienced feedback.

The only drawback I see is that guys like myself get an awful lot out of reading posts from guys like needsize or radar, etc that have and are running larger doses/multiple compounds. Knowledge is power and I get a ton of it reading these posts.

Maybe it could be set up that unless you are a member of that paticular forum, you can only read and not post? Just a thought.

Amen. This board (right now) is here for the benefit of all. Why would you want to exclude 98% of the users. It would get real boring in a real hurry. . .my $.02. Plus, how the hell would you become "advanced" without the help of those that have already been there? That's like when you graduate from college and you go on your first job interview and they ask you if you have any experience. . .umm, no, isn't that kind of the point. . .at one time or another all of us had no experience.
 
Big_Joe said:
This isn't true. It's not your fault if someone else does something stupid it's their fault. If someone makes a post some like:
I am on my one hundred and forty seventh cycle and I think I need a little boost. So I was going to wash down one hundred and fifty dbol with quart of winny a day and do a gram each of test, eq and deca every hour. What do you guys think?

It's not your fault if some idiot with a brand new set of Joe Weider weights decides to do this. It's the same as if we were talking about motorcycle racing. If I post "Man I took deadmans curve laid way over at one seventy five yesterday." Then some idiot goes out and tries it himself and ends up donating his liver to someone that did to many orals. It's not my fault it's his fault.
Yeah but believe me people are not coming out openly here about their cycles on this board,just because the idea behind the board is to have a healthy enviroment and to grow by being safe and most of the bros that frequent the board are still learning about basic aa procedures.The bros that push the envelope and stay on all year are not discussing it out here because its not the message the board is trying to teach.I know for a fact that most bros that are on all year are not discussing it openly because it dosent look right in the eyes of most on here.Also a lot of beginers will go into thinking if I take 3 grams like that guy I can get that big,wich is definetly not what the idea is.
 
digimon7068 said:
Amen. This board (right now) is here for the benefit of all. Why would you want to exclude 98% of the users. It would get real boring in a real hurry. . .my $.02. Plus, how the hell would you become "advanced" without the help of those that have already been there? That's like when you graduate from college and you go on your first job interview and they ask you if you have any experience. . .umm, no, isn't that kind of the point. . .at one time or another all of us had no experience.
No one is saying to exclude any one.The advanced section would be pretty boring if it was the only part you would go to.It would just be a nice place to go and ask cycle questions and share ideas openly with brothers that have been on for a long time and have plenty of experience so you would know that a first time user wouldnt read it and go do it.I can guarantee you that all the advanced users would go to the regular board just as much because it is a very busy part of the board and will always be the most popular.I know most of these bros like helping others and would still go there to answer noob questions.It would be the same as everything is,there would just be a part were people that have extended experience and have ben on longer could go and discuss cycles and dosages with other experienced users with out getting flamed by beginer users or having to worry about some one getting hurt or picking up wrong advice.
 
Big_Joe said:
This isn't true. It's not your fault if someone else does something stupid it's their fault. If someone makes a post some like:
I am on my one hundred and forty seventh cycle and I think I need a little boost. So I was going to wash down one hundred and fifty dbol with quart of winny a day and do a gram each of test, eq and deca every hour. What do you guys think?

It's not your fault if some idiot with a brand new set of Joe Weider weights decides to do this. It's the same as if we were talking about motorcycle racing. If I post "Man I took deadmans curve laid way over at one seventy five yesterday." Then some idiot goes out and tries it himself and ends up donating his liver to someone that did to many orals. It's not my fault it's his fault.
Damn bro thats a lot gear.Did you really do that?How did that work out for ya lol?
:evil: :evil: :evil:
 
gymratforlife said:
No one is saying to exclude any one.The advanced section would be pretty boring if it was the only part you would go to.It would just be a nice place to go and ask cycle questions and share ideas openly with brothers that have been on for a long time and have plenty of experience so you would know that a first time user wouldnt read it and go do it.I can guarantee you that all the advanced users would go to the regular board just as much because it is a very busy part of the board and will always be the most popular.I know most of these bros like helping others and would still go there to answer noob questions.It would be the same as everything is,there would just be a part were people that have extended experience and have ben on longer could go and discuss cycles and dosages with other experienced users with out getting flamed by beginer users or having to worry about some one getting hurt or picking up wrong advice.

I posted a thread asking info about staying on all year and got very little response. And I think my reasons for staying on all year are very good. There was no flaming but there also was little help, but there was some and thanks to those that posted. I don't know if another forum is going to change that.
 
even if you had a vet's section there's no way you could stop newbs from posting there, so i guess i'm saying it's sorta pointless...
 
gymratforlife said:
Wouldnt it be great if we had an advanced user and vets and mods section of this board for experienced users so we can discuss real doses and durations and techniques between ourselves with out fear of a noobie going on to trying it and hurting themselfs?Me for example I get tired of reading post after post of stuff that I have read 1 million times.You all know what I mean"Can I drink the Winy?"."Think I have Gyno help".Is this an abcess?I dont mind coming in here and helping the new guys out, but I myself dont ever see true doses or techniches from the big boys on here.We all know that most of us that have been using for a while dont do 8 week cycles of 500mg of test per week.Like myself most probably dont discuss cycles and things like this for fear that a novice might go out and do something wrong and hurt them selfs.Then it would be our fault for posting.It would be nice if we could have a separate section of the board for the veteran bros that stay on all year and go on cruising periods when off.





Really good idea!! But i'm not sure if it should only be exclusive to plat members. I know for me I really don't want to be plat and have to pay for it because all of the extras is something I would have no use for. Maybe it could be Labelled different like another discussion board. I know that in the past I've asked for very specific info and asked that only those who really knew their gear to post only and I guess I sorta came across as being rude and was nailed to the wall for it so having this idea come to pass would be great, it would eliminate some of the more basic questions and minimize the responses to some of our posts. Good post and I hope it happens!!!!
 
i think anyone who shows a decent wealth of knowledge in aas should be considered in this, not necessarily vets and mods. i know guys that are new to the board but are advanced bbers who rarely even come on but when they do they know a ton, 2sick for example, you will rarely see him on here, but when it comes to gh he is the man to talk to. he knows alot but if you look at his posts and karma he seems like a newb. just using him as an example. if it were done i feel there should be a mod who decides if threads are worthy of the section and if they are not they get moved to the regular forum. i am so sick of what dose anavar should i take, and all the rest you bros know
 
I don't think a seperate board is neccessary for this. Instead, what if the mods (sorry bro's not trying to add more work for you) determined if you were worthy of being called a vet based on info in past posts and replies, and could in some way add an icon or label to your elite title that let others know you were a vet? That way it's mod approved and when you get advice you will know if it's a newbie or a vet. At the same time though, when you hang around this board long enough you can pretty much figure out whos who.
 
bruce410 said:
i think anyone who shows a decent wealth of knowledge in aas should be considered in this, not necessarily vets and mods. i know guys that are new to the board but are advanced bbers who rarely even come on but when they do they know a ton, 2sick for example, you will rarely see him on here, but when it comes to gh he is the man to talk to. he knows alot but if you look at his posts and karma he seems like a newb. just using him as an example. if it were done i feel there should be a mod who decides if threads are worthy of the section and if they are not they get moved to the regular forum. i am so sick of what dose anavar should i take, and all the rest you bros know
Thats why I said experienced bros,there is a lot of bros that have been juicing for a long time that know their shit and are not platinum members or vets or mods on here.I know the general concensus of the board is to stay safe and on time=off time and all that yada yada.But the truth is that bros that have done their share of juice know that things dont really go that way.It would be like a non child proof version of the Anabolic board for the bros that want to come out and discuss what its really all about with out fear of being flamed or giving noobs the wrong idea,a place were we can talk about doing 15ius of slin because we know that people there know about slin and respect it and have done it and know the risks.A place to talk about DNP use with out worrying about a noob going home and taking 3 caps and going on a stair master with out drinking any water.A no holds bared juice talk board with out fears or boundaries.Were we can let out the truth with no worries.
 
gymratforlife said:
Thats why I said experienced bros,there is a lot of bros that have been juicing for a long time that know their shit and are not platinum members or vets or mods on here.I know the general concensus of the board is to stay safe and on time=off time and all that yada yada.But the truth is that bros that have done their share of juice know that things dont really go that way.It would be like a non child proof version of the Anabolic board for the bros that want to come out and discuss what its really all about with out fear of being flamed or giving noobs the wrong idea,a place were we can talk about doing 15ius of slin because we know that people there know about slin and respect it and have done it and know the risks.A place to talk about DNP use with out worrying about a noob going home and taking 3 caps and going on a stair master with out drinking any water.A no holds bared juice talk board with out fears or boundaries.Were we can let out the truth with no worries.
i totally agree my friend.
 
hvywghtchamp said:
I don't think a seperate board is neccessary for this. Instead, what if the mods (sorry bro's not trying to add more work for you) determined if you were worthy of being called a vet based on info in past posts and replies, and could in some way add an icon or label to your elite title that let others know you were a vet? That way it's mod approved and when you get advice you will know if it's a newbie or a vet. At the same time though, when you hang around this board long enough you can pretty much figure out whos who.
This is not to distinguish any one from another though,the purpose is to go to a board were you can ask advanced questions on things like ok how to stay on all year at what doses what compounds with out worrying about getting flamed because every one there stays on all year and understands.Also giving advice with out worrying about some one hurting them selfs because the members are seasoned enough to respect they are playing with fire with some of these substances.A board were we can talk open on the bros that go on 2 grams of gear on a cycle.Were we can discuss the draw backs of certain compounds at higher dosages.Some of us are at a point were we are not going to grow from 400mg of test a week.Its just not going to happen no matter how hard we train and eat and how religious we are about our routines.For these bros we need a place to talk open with out any one going to try the advice and getting hurt.For example I have done 400mg of dnp and 2 hours of cardio a day when cutting and it has worked incredibly.Do you think I really want to share that info with every one on here?
 
gymratforlife said:
This is not to distinguish any one from another though,the purpose is to go to a board were you can ask advanced questions on things like ok how to stay on all year at what doses what compounds with out worrying about getting flamed because every one there stays on all year and understands.Also giving advice with out worrying about some one hurting them selfs because the members are seasoned enough to respect they are playing with fire with some of these substances.A board were we can talk open on the bros that go on 2 grams of gear on a cycle.Were we can discuss the draw backs of certain compounds at higher dosages.Some of us are at a point were we are not going to grow from 400mg of test a week.Its just not going to happen no matter how hard we train and eat and how religious we are about our routines.For these bros we need a place to talk open with out any one going to try the advice and getting hurt.For example I have done 400mg of dnp and 2 hours of cardio a day when cutting and it has worked incredibly.Do you think I really want to share that info with every one on here?


bro this whole idea is the best ive heard in a while bro....i couldnt agree more...i wanna talk big and right now this isnt the board to do so
 
bicepts101 said:
bro this whole idea is the best ive heard in a while bro....i couldnt agree more...i wanna talk big and right now this isnt the board to do so
hopefully enough bros will hear it and it will happen.
 
hvywghtchamp said:
I don't think a seperate board is neccessary for this. Instead, what if the mods (sorry bro's not trying to add more work for you) determined if you were worthy of being called a vet based on info in past posts and replies, and could in some way add an icon or label to your elite title that let others know you were a vet? That way it's mod approved and when you get advice you will know if it's a newbie or a vet. At the same time though, when you hang around this board long enough you can pretty much figure out whos who.

Word....
 
hvywghtchamp said:
I don't think a seperate board is neccessary for this. Instead, what if the mods (sorry bro's not trying to add more work for you) determined if you were worthy of being called a vet based on info in past posts and replies, and could in some way add an icon or label to your elite title that let others know you were a vet? That way it's mod approved and when you get advice you will know if it's a newbie or a vet. At the same time though, when you hang around this board long enough you can pretty much figure out whos who.

I think this is a better alternative to another forum/section. The giving and getting of advice is really the point in the end on a discussion board where people go to learn and also advise. If you truly want to talk on a more advanced level about cycles, etc. - is it not feasible to do this via PM, Email or Platinum Chat?

I realize the threads and questions can sometimes get tiresome when you are one who is in this forum regularly, but in the end its just the nature of the beast I guess.

Not dis'in, just askin'.
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Here's another problem with the idea.

Who are the guys that are doing year round for years at time? It's not the guy at the lunch counter. It's some guy that has turned pro or is beating his brains out trying to turn pro. This means money!!!

Lets say I'm one of those guys, don't worry I'm not. I've gotten a few photo shoots, I've opened the local Petsmart and Thriftys wants me to do an opening. SO finally after years of hard work I'm starting to get a couple of bucks coming in. I'm working my ass off to get into the top five at the Grand Prix. Through years of trial and error, lots of error, I have finally found the cycle that is getting me where I want to go.

Do you really think I'm going to tell some shmuck on an on-line forum what I have learned so he can get there before me??? That's really what you all are asking for. That great cycle of the pros that makes one "in the bucks." You want Hummers and planes and big houses. Well that shit aint easy. Remember to get to the top you have to knock the guy off that's there already, and he's not ready to go. Just ask Cutler.
 
hvywghtchamp said:
I don't think a seperate board is neccessary for this. Instead, what if the mods (sorry bro's not trying to add more work for you) determined if you were worthy of being called a vet based on info in past posts and replies, and could in some way add an icon or label to your elite title that let others know you were a vet? That way it's mod approved and when you get advice you will know if it's a newbie or a vet. At the same time though, when you hang around this board long enough you can pretty much figure out whos who.

they did have this, it was "elite mentor", but with all the custom titles, no one notices it anymore
 
i think its a good idea, but not very feasable. it would be too complicated trying to keep the right people in and the wrong out.
 
there are other AAS boards where more serious (aka not beach body look) cycles are discussed.
 
The only thing is that a tag above your name still wouldnt kep novice users from reading a post that says hey I took 60ius of slin every day this month and put on 15 pounds while doing 10 ius of growth per day.Some one would end up going out and trying that much slin with out knowing much about ot and killing them selfs.This is why the stuff is not over the counter.Thats why they took DNP off the market to begin with and also why they took ephedra.If people wouldnt have started droping from missuse it still would be sold.
 
If the concern is newbies, why not make a "Gear for Newbies: forum, where all stupid questions can be answered, and leave this forum to the more experienced users, as it should be. I think the hardcore 3g per week, slin, HGH users can get along just fine with the bread and butter test/deca/dbol users.


Bluesman
 
Ok, my 2 cents... I'll fully admit, I'm definitely not a vet... but have learned alot over the last 5 years and the cycles I've done...especially from the guys on here! Really grateful! But isn't the whole purpose of having a forum so that everyone can benefit from the knowledge that guys are willing to share?

If sections were "restricted", then alot of us wouldn't benefit from some good stuff on here and "advance". If you know who the "vets" are, which obviously there are much fewer of in our "community", then just go to them personally and ask your more advanced questions. Why separate yourselves from the rest of the board just because a select few know more about AAS than others?

Also, anyone that reads posts here should know that they take it upon themselves whenever they follow any advice from here... I know I do! And if someone is a true vet, he'll feel confident enough in what he's posting, should he decide to post....I've seen that vets usually make the distinction of whether their advice is for newbies or for more advanced users.... so the vet shouldn't necessarily worry that some newbie is going to screw up and take advanced advice...

Ok, hope I didn't tick-off too many people! :chainsaw:
 
hotnjmuscle said:
Ok, my 2 cents... I'll fully admit, I'm definitely not a vet... but have learned alot over the last 5 years and the cycles I've done...especially from the guys on here! Really grateful! But isn't the whole purpose of having a forum so that everyone can benefit from the knowledge that guys are willing to share?

If sections were "restricted", then alot of us wouldn't benefit from some good stuff on here and "advance". If you know who the "vets" are, which obviously there are much fewer of in our "community", then just go to them personally and ask your more advanced questions. Why separate yourselves from the rest of the board just because a select few know more about AAS than others?

Also, anyone that reads posts here should know that they take it upon themselves whenever they follow any advice from here... I know I do! And if someone is a true vet, he'll feel confident enough in what he's posting, should he decide to post....I've seen that vets usually make the distinction of whether their advice is for newbies or for more advanced users.... so the vet shouldn't necessarily worry that some newbie is going to screw up and take advanced advice...

Ok, hope I didn't tick-off too many people! :chainsaw:
lol I sound like a broken record.It wouldnt be restricting any info to any one.It would just be the more hardcore type coments would be kept to a hardcore user forum.The old school guys and vets would still come to the regular forum and help noobs and post.They would just go to this section of the board to discuss heavy duty hardcore cycles that they can share with the hardcore guys that understand and respect these kinds of chemicals and dosages.LoL I dont want to keep posting same thing 100 times.The fact of the matter is that the people that are advanced and do things a little on the edge need a place were they can openly talk and discuss.Dosent mean that every one is still not going to go to the anabolics board and post.
 
gymratforlife said:
No one is saying to exclude any one.The advanced section would be pretty boring if it was the only part you would go to.It would just be a nice place to go and ask cycle questions and share ideas openly with brothers that have been on for a long time and have plenty of experience so you would know that a first time user wouldnt read it and go do it.I can guarantee you that all the advanced users would go to the regular board just as much because it is a very busy part of the board and will always be the most popular.I know most of these bros like helping others and would still go there to answer noob questions.It would be the same as everything is,there would just be a part were people that have extended experience and have ben on longer could go and discuss cycles and dosages with other experienced users with out getting flamed by beginer users or having to worry about some one getting hurt or picking up wrong advice.

OK. Point taken.
 
I think it is a good idea. Fitnessgeared had one of these back in the day, and it was very, very nice. Lots of great info, and it was more personal.

FG had it where the admin would individually unlock the forum for certain members only. If you were unlocked, you could click on it as though you were entering any other forums, but no one else could get in.


The only people allowed had to be OK'ed by almost all the people that were in already to get in. The only people that started in there vets and mods. Polls were started randomly by people that were in the forum to allow others in. Members in this forum would vote in the poll to let, or not let the pollee in.

it was a very good system.
 
Guvna said:
I think it is a good idea. Fitnessgeared had one of these back in the day, and it was very, very nice. Lots of great info, and it was more personal.

FG had it where the admin would individually unlock the forum for certain members only. If you were unlocked, you could click on it as though you were entering any other forums, but no one else could get in.


The only people allowed had to be OK'ed by almost all the people that were in already to get in. The only people that started in there vets and mods. Polls were started randomly by people that were in the forum to allow others in. Members in this forum would vote in the poll to let, or not let the pollee in.

it was a very good system.


this is exactly what i though he was talking about. this is the only way to go with this IMO. some would feel left out but thats the way it goes. i maybe one of them u never know
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We should ad an advanced users and vets section to this board?

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Wouldnt it be great if we had an advanced user and vets and mods section of this board for experienced users so we can discuss real doses and durations and techniques between ourselves with out fear of a noobie going on to trying it and hurting themselfs?Me for example I get tired of reading post after post of stuff that I have read 1 million times.You all know what I mean"Can I drink the Winy?"."Think I have Gyno help".Is this an abcess?I dont mind coming in here and helping the new guys out, but I myself dont ever see true doses or techniches from the big boys on here.We all know that most of us that have been using for a while dont do 8 week cycles of 500mg of test per week.Like myself most probably dont discuss cycles and things like this for fear that a novice might go out and do something wrong and hurt them selfs.Then it would be our fault for posting.It would be nice if we could have a separate section of the board for the veteran bros that stay on all year and go on cruising periods when off.


OK I AM a newb ... to AAS and you wont see me post a comment about it ...but i have a poss idea ....everybody has seen the Karma threads where you can add K to the topic for replies ....(they have the yinyang on the topic)
to go with an earlier idea give the vets an Icon under the name ...when they want to talk unrestricted they can start a post with that Icon on it ....it would go in with the other topics so that would keep the people with good knowledge in the main forum and still let them post with no worry on there own advanced user topics ..only people with that icon could view or post on that thread ...just a thought
 
bicepts101 said:
this is exactly what i though he was talking about. this is the only way to go with this IMO. some would feel left out but thats the way it goes. i maybe one of them u never know
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where you get the picture???? I must know.....right now. :artist:
 
I feel something along these lines would be a good thing. I'm not the man to perfect it but I'm sure someone on here (ie george and the crew) can figure something out. My real objective would be to make EF a better board, you hear these other guys saying you can find these things elsewhere. I feel EF should be the only place you need to go, why can't EF offer it all? It really comes down to support, with it anything can happen. I guess the real question is where is EF's future? I hope it is bright.
 
pda321 said:
even if you had a vet's section there's no way you could stop newbs from posting there, so i guess i'm saying it's sorta pointless...


Only vet's could access the vet section. Other boards do have this feature
 
bw1 said:
Only vet's could access the vet section. Other boards do have this feature


What exactly constitutes a Vet? How would you decide who can view this section?

rizz
 
well, i have posted here and there as to what my cycles consist of and agree totally that if there were a forum made especially for advanced users that there should be some sort of requirment to be able to view that area. i now regret posting them in the beginning, thinking now as to exactly how many newbee/novices accually view. novices, no offense, more than likely do not take into concideration the amount research and years that it takes to get to those levels. mosts thinking process is this: I WANT IT NOW AND I WANT RESULTS QUICKLY.
 
bigtravis said:
well, i have posted here and there as to what my cycles consist of and agree totally that if there were a forum made especially for advanced users that there should be some sort of requirment to be able to view that area. i now regret posting them in the beginning, thinking now as to exactly how many newbee/novices accually view. novices, no offense, more than likely do not take into concideration the amount research and years that it takes to get to those levels. mosts thinking process is this: I WANT IT NOW AND I WANT RESULTS QUICKLY.
This is exactly the way I think,also they do not know the dangers involved with things like slin and DNP that some of us have plenty of experience with and know how to respect properly.People can get hurt
if we were to post things like that up there so we need a section to go and go all out hardcore with out worries.
 
bigtravis said:
well, i have posted here and there as to what my cycles consist of and agree totally that if there were a forum made especially for advanced users that there should be some sort of requirment to be able to view that area. i now regret posting them in the beginning, thinking now as to exactly how many newbee/novices accually view. novices, no offense, more than likely do not take into concideration the amount research and years that it takes to get to those levels. mosts thinking process is this: I WANT IT NOW AND I WANT RESULTS QUICKLY.
I agree. Also, a lot of em think that they are "experienced", just because they ran a cycle or two. And there are plenty that would use whatever doses and cycles they read about regardless of their personal gear history. Shit they don't even read the stickies... Personally, I think a lot of the new members shouldn't even touch steroids.

Maybe we could make it like getting a class A license at the DMV...pass an online test on your knowledge of gear before you can get into the vet section, where we don't have to worry your gonna hurt yourself. Its not like there is no info here if you want to learn! It wouldn't make more work for mods either. There could be questions about PCT, use of pins, etc. -- every stupid question that gets asked a million times should have to be answered, plus some more advanced questions. Thats my 2 cents.
 
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gymratforlife said:
Up for mod help on this.

I don't think your going to get to much help with a vet section. They usually get into open source talk etc. I don't think Elite's going to go there, but maybe I'm wrong
 
bw1 said:
I don't think your going to get to much help with a vet section. They usually get into open source talk etc. I don't think Elite's going to go there, but maybe I'm wrong

it would be the same rules as here..no source posting
 
bigtravis said:
well, i have posted here and there as to what my cycles consist of and agree totally that if there were a forum made especially for advanced users that there should be some sort of requirment to be able to view that area. i now regret posting them in the beginning, thinking now as to exactly how many newbee/novices accually view. novices, no offense, more than likely do not take into concideration the amount research and years that it takes to get to those levels. mosts thinking process is this: I WANT IT NOW AND I WANT RESULTS QUICKLY.
I dont see the point of doing this. With most advanced users, me especially, there's nothing really anyone can help me with when it comes to constructing my cycles. I already know what I need to take, and how much of it I need to take in order to achieve whatever goal Im looking for. Why would I want to post up my cycles just for the hell of it? I can do that in the "my cycle forum" if I really wanted to. I personally rarely even post questions on the boards becuase 99% of the people here dont have the knowledge or expertise to answer them. There are only a handfull of people on this forum of whom I value their opinions and advices.

We dont really need vets to help vets (most of them already know what they need to do), we need vets to help the newbies and lesser experienced users.
 
Outtlaw said:
I dont see the point of doing this. With most advanced users, me especially, there's nothing really anyone can help me with when it comes to constructing my cycles. I already know what I need to take, and how much of it I need to take in order to achieve whatever goal Im looking for. Why would I want to post up my cycles just for the hell of it? I can do that in the "my cycle forum" if I really wanted to. I personally rarely even post questions on the boards becuase 99% of the people here dont have the knowledge or expertise to answer them. There are only a handfull of people on this forum of whom I value their opinions and advices.

We dont really need vets to help vets (most of them already know what they need to do), we need vets to help the newbies and lesser experienced users.
i wasn't going towards vets giving vets advice but being able to speak freely with on another about cycles, etc. without have to be so low key in the discussions. because novices were reading in. yet still be able to give advice when needed on the discussion forum.
 
bigtravis said:
i wasn't going towards vets giving vets advice but being able to speak freely with on another about cycles, etc. without have to be so low key in the discussions. because novices were reading in. yet still be able to give advice when needed on the discussion forum.
I understand where you’re coming from, but I don’t have any holdups about speaking freely about anything I use on the boards. I even posted my current cycle in a thread a few wks ago. Im not really worried about newbies running expert cycles because there’s a lot of information and help given all over these boards telling people how to set up a good beginners cycle. If a newbie wants to run my current cycle because they saw me post it, then that’s on them not me. I do not hold myself accountable for what any moron chooses to do on this forum. Im only here to give advice and help people out where I can. Whether or not people choose to take that advice is up to them.
 
^^^^What Outlaw said. You can't feel liable for what some stupid bastard decides to do to his body. Ultimately, you are all responsible for your own decisions in life, no one else. GymRat, I see what you're saying but why not just use the hardcore platinum section for this?
 
bigtravis said:
i wasn't going towards vets giving vets advice but being able to speak freely with on another about cycles, etc. without have to be so low key in the discussions. because novices were reading in. yet still be able to give advice when needed on the discussion forum.
This is exactly what I am saying.Im glad at least some one understands me lol.Outlaw,you cant tell me you know absolutely everything there is to know about bodybuilding because that is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard in my whole life,there are things coming out every day that bros use and that pros use that none of us have a clue of what they do or how to use them.For example there is ways on using slin with out carbs that will have you in Ketosis within an hour.Do you know how to do this?IThere is many advanced methods that we can share amongst each other that can be very dangerous for some one that dosent respect these substances and is a first time user.For example I can tell you that if you do 2 hours of cardio per day whle taking 600mg of dnp you can drop about 5% total BF in about 10 days.I know this because i have done it.Do you think I want noobs reading that?Also IGF and other things that are out there that are fairly new that some of us have more knowledge than others from personal use.It would be nice to go and let it all out amongst peeeps that have been around for a minute and not worry about getting flamed by the guys that are just used to reading the boards and repeat what they have read,things like time on=time off,wich most of us know its BS if you want to g over the edge on gains.I dont want to start a flame fest but its just a fact that a lot of shit is kept out of the main board and I know this because I am in the loop with some serious bros and they dont run these 10-12 week cycles that are posted up here.
 
gymratforlife said:
This is exactly what I am saying.Im glad at least some one understands me lol.Outlaw,you cant tell me you know absolutely everything there is to know about bodybuilding because that is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard in my whole life,there are things coming out every day that bros use and that pros use that none of us have a clue of what they do or how to use them.For example there is ways on using slin with out carbs that will have you in Ketosis within an hour.Do you know how to do this?IThere is many advanced methods that we can share amongst each other that can be very dangerous for some one that dosent respect these substances and is a first time user.For example I can tell you that if you do 2 hours of cardio per day whle taking 600mg of dnp you can drop about 5% total BF in about 10 days.I know this because i have done it.Do you think I want noobs reading that?Also IGF and other things that are out there that are fairly new that some of us have more knowledge than others from personal use.It would be nice to go and let it all out amongst peeeps that have been around for a minute and not worry about getting flamed by the guys that are just used to reading the boards and repeat what they have read,things like time on=time off,wich most of us know its BS if you want to g over the edge on gains.I dont want to start a flame fest but its just a fact that a lot of shit is kept out of the main board and I know this because I am in the loop with some serious bros and they dont run these 10-12 week cycles that are posted up here.
I don’t run the normal cycles that are posted up here either. Nor do I claim to know everything about bodybuilding and anabolics. What I was saying is that no one can really critique my cycles to tell me anything that I don’t already know. And there are very few people on here that actually have the experience and knowledge to discuss complicated theories on gear use. I don’t use dnp, so Im sure there are a ton of people that know a lot more about that subject than I do. If you want to talk about different ways to run slin and dnp then do it. That’s what the forum is for… AAS discussion. I don’t know why you’re worried about getting flamed. I will completely support anyone starting threads about dnp, slin use, or anything else for that matter. If anyone has a problem with gear being discussed in the fucking ANABOLIC forum then they need to go find a different board to post on.
 
I agree with Outlaw on this I thought this forum was an open discussion on AAS so why should they create another board for the Vets? This board woudn't be the same without the Vets speaking freely and giving us advise on our cycles. I am learning new stuff everyday that I come on this board and guys like Outlaw & Bigtravis have so much knowledge that I look forward to their posts. So either way I hope you vets will remain here for us guys that really respect your opinions!
 
lol Im done with this i sound like a broken record.Already said 30000000000 times that it still wouldnt keep the vets out of the regular board and that most people are not posting the truth because of fear of novices getting hurt and thats never going to change.
 
I will continue to post the truth in all my post, as I always have been. I dont fear anyone doing the wrong thing from my post for the reasons I stated earlier, and will hold back absolutely nothing. For those who cant handle that... well that's not my problem.
 
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