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We need to get deadly serious with terrorist

Right...bomb all islamic countries because of political extremists...that makes sense.

Again, the US failed in Nam. They failed in Iraq. They're not nearly the world power they were long ago. They need to take care of their own and stop spending stupid money on wars that do not involve them in the first place.

Raging a war against islamic nations will give these nations a reason to stick together and fight alongside each other than fight one another, and that's not good for the US....

That war does involve us though, because we have the Jewish community under our wing which we'll pretty much protect at any cost. I'm surprised we've been beating around the bush for so long in the process though.
 
we are just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. i think this is an
oversimplification and even if it has merit, we can't walk on eggshells with
our fingers crossed thinking, " boy i hope we didn't piss off any crazy
muslims today."

again, defining what is and what is not our business is a concept of
such magnitude, i dare say we'd ever get it right. furthermore our
most benign action could be percieved as an egregious violation of
some obscure koranic law.

i do concede that we need to develop alternative energy sources and we
need to stay out of the middle east as much as possible.

So, not spending trillions of dollars and moving hundreds of thousands of military personnel to a certain part of the world where there is no direct threat to us as a country is "walking on eggshells?"

We may indeed have to agree to disagree.
 
This is a sound arguement. It's dispassionate and logical. Certainly more
reasonable than my proposition. I was very angry when i wrote my little
tirade.

You are clearly a level headed individual with an eloquent approach. Thank
you for your contribution.

Thanks, LB. :-)
 
I MADE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN MUSLIM AND CRAZY ASS MUSLIM IN EVERY
POST!

Do you remember when you first got to EF? You were being attacked for being
muslim and i defended you tooth and nail! I came close to getting bant!

Racism and the intolerance for other beliefs, cultures and the like is deplorable.
Traz, please go back and review my post on this thread.

I know you did bro, i'm just fuckin wid cha cause I know you :heart" me no homo lol
 
So, not spending trillions of dollars and moving hundreds of thousands of military personnel to a certain part of the world where there is no direct threat to us as a country is "walking on eggshells?"

We may indeed have to agree to disagree.

no no no! we are in agreement about the war in Iraque.
we've no business there. hu fukin mongous mistake.
 
lololol when u get money for blow jobs do the guys usually fix u a sammich or is that only when u pay them for the gay sex?

dude where do you come from with nasty remarks that have nothing to do with the conversation at hand or the topic discussed? do you just try to hijack threads with this bullshit? I've noticed this over the last couple of threads...you need to check yourself
 
dude where do you come from with nasty remarks that have nothing to do with the conversation at hand or the topic discussed? do you just try to hijack threads with this bullshit? I've noticed this over the last couple of threads...you need to check yourself

Traz, this dood is mean spirited. he's not like SB or mustang et al.
those guys are hilarious and it's part of their E persona. this cat's
a real downer with no contribution to our community.
 
I HAVENT READ THROUGH THIS WHOLE THREAD, SO INFO ME IF I MISSED A POINT OR ARGUEMENT

i think the idea of worrying about terrorism is over exaggerated,

secondly i dont understand why america trys to police the world and justify it

lets face it yous supplied billions of dollars to osama for him to capure oil whells in arab countries and he did so,

then later when yous turned your back on him and stopped funding his organistion and army coz yous had what yous needed he asked for more money for his work and yous had a dissagreement, few weeks later 911 happpens and theres evidence that it wasnt even planned or caused by saddam or even terrosists?

i mean lets face it, a plane hitting a building full or terroists and theres more eveidence to prove that this isnt the case?

then iraq is invaded after the afagan/osama incedent for basis of nuclear weapons?

1 month in its shown america seized 80% of all the oil whells in iraq, but hadent even visited 20% of the so claimed areas nuclear weapons were thought to exist? then seek out saddam for his so called criminal actions, capture and then hang him with video footage thats make it questionable whether or not it actually is Saddam? in the 20th century a billion dollar government couldnt even get a descent camera to film such a historical event? hmmm........

i think your civilisation has been fed fear about terrorists through media and propaganda by ur own government just so they have support to act the way the want

i think yous have bigger worries, your economy has relied on being powerful in order to function and thrive globaly, and has done this through its huge oil control over the last century

with china being the most powerful economy in the world atm, standing for communism, huge population power and a massivaly growing economy that supplies america more then 50% of what it consumes yearly aswell as the US is in 772 billion dollars debt to china just through export and import trade

i see americans fear everything (terrorosists, crime, diseases, epidemics etc) except what they really should.........

the fact they no longer are the gloanal economic power they once were in the world, which they have relied on for sooo long

that they no longer have the funding to support there army, shouldve figured that out when yous just recently withdrew your troops from iraq, couldnt have seriously thought they were withdrawn for peace reasons? btw all the oil whells yous seized during those times are still in control by some form of ur miliatary operations, so yous are still in iraq............

and that they are running out of oil very fast, and they dont even realise it.....................

PS; no i dont hate americans lol, im doing a masters in economics and accounting and studying global economics so this is why im argueing this point

Trust me bro, nobody here's talking much about terrorism. the economy
is the topic of conversation everywhere you go.
 
I HAVENT READ THROUGH THIS WHOLE THREAD, SO INFO ME IF I MISSED A POINT OR ARGUEMENT

i think the idea of worrying about terrorism is over exaggerated,

secondly i dont understand why america trys to police the world and justify it

lets face it yous supplied billions of dollars to osama for him to capure oil whells in arab countries and he did so,

then later when yous turned your back on him and stopped funding his organistion and army coz yous had what yous needed he asked for more money for his work and yous had a dissagreement, few weeks later 911 happpens and theres evidence that it wasnt even planned or caused by saddam or even terrosists?

i mean lets face it, a plane hitting a building full or terroists and theres more eveidence to prove that this isnt the case?

then iraq is invaded after the afagan/osama incedent for basis of nuclear weapons?

1 month in its shown america seized 80% of all the oil whells in iraq, but hadent even visited 20% of the so claimed areas nuclear weapons were thought to exist? then seek out saddam for his so called criminal actions, capture and then hang him with video footage thats make it questionable whether or not it actually is Saddam? in the 20th century a billion dollar government couldnt even get a descent camera to film such a historical event? hmmm........


i think your civilisation has been fed fear about terrorists through media and propaganda by ur own government just so they have support to act the way the want

i think yous have bigger worries, your economy has relied on being powerful in order to function and thrive globaly, and has done this through its huge oil control over the last century

with china being the most powerful economy in the world atm, standing for communism, huge population power and a massivaly growing economy that supplies america more then 50% of what it consumes yearly aswell as the US is in 772 billion dollars debt to china just through export and import trade

i see americans fear everything (terrorosists, crime, diseases, epidemics etc) except what they really should.........

the fact they no longer are the gloanal economic power they once were in the world, which they have relied on for sooo long

that they no longer have the funding to support there army, shouldve figured that out when yous just recently withdrew your troops from iraq, couldnt have seriously thought they were withdrawn for peace reasons? btw all the oil whells yous seized during those times are still in control by some form of ur miliatary operations, so yous are still in iraq............

and that they are running out of oil very fast, and they dont even realise it.....................

PS; no i dont hate americans lol, im doing a masters in economics and accounting and studying global economics so this is why im argueing this point

OH AND BTW,



ere are the facts:

The U.S. gets less oil today from Iraq than before 9/11
The largest source of crude oil for the United States is the United States
Iraq has never represented more than 4.5% of crude oil used in the United States
The United States' dependence on foreign oil has increased, but the amount of oil from the Persian Gulf has decreased.

The lightbulbs in your home, the car you drive, the airplane, the blues, rock
and roll etc.. etc.... it's all from us bro. we've faced down nazis, communist
and all sorts of world threats. shit, a handful of our farmers kicked englands
ass when they were the most powerful empire in the world. we'll beat this
piddly ass shit and resume our position as king of the hill.

however, we do appreciate the boomerang and crocodile dundee and we speak
for the world when we thank you for that.
 
ignore him bro. sb, he goes about the board startin shit and he post
bullshit on peeps profile. he's like the little boy in first grade who pulls
susy's pigtail for attention. he aint gettin no attention in real life so
it's easy to talk shit and stir a fuss on the internet.

we got better things to do sb! i'm gonna be down your way soon
and were gonna get together. we'll get us a 3 finger dip and talk
shit and you can hang with me and kathy at my sisters house in
savannah.
Im in buddy, just let me know when. :D
 
The U.S. gets less oil today from Iraq than before 9/11
The largest source of crude oil for the United States is the United States
Iraq has never represented more than 4.5% of crude oil used in the United States
The United States' dependence on foreign oil has increased, but the amount of oil from the Persian Gulf has decreased.

Word.

UK / Western Europe gets most of its oil from Russia & has done so for decades, fuck knows what all this "We invaded Iraq for teh oilz lalz!!11" stems from.
 
Word.

UK / Western Europe gets most of its oil from Russia & has done so for decades, fuck knows what all this "We invaded Iraq for teh oilz lalz!!11" stems from.

lol @ people who actually believe the invasion of Iraq was to find weapons of mass destruction lolololol...it was purely for money man...seriously
 
lol @ people who actually believe the invasion of Iraq was to find weapons of mass destruction lolololol...it was purely for money man...seriously
The invasion of Iraq was to free people of tyranny, nothing more nothing less. If you do not believe that those people were opressed and living in complete fear for their lives daily, then you honestly have no idea of what you are talking about. ( I'm not speaking to you directly Traz, just in general bro) All the hype over WMD's was an excuse to get the good graces of the world to do what needed to be done. But in my opinion who gives a fuck what France or Canada, or Spain thinks, what the fuck they gonna do buck and get beat down, I don't think so. We need no bodies good graces to free people from a tyrant, if we see fit. And those of you who disagree with me have no sense of what patriotism is all about, nor do have any understanding of where this country come from or the people who made it possible for some of you to voice your dumb fucking opinions. I know I have come off like an ego maniac here and I carry shit a lil too far sometimes, mostly just for the lolz, but I have shed my blood for each and every person on this site, as have my father, my grandfather and my great grandfather and on and on. I am sure some of you have done the same for me. But guys those of you who have this keep our nose in our own buisness attitude, number one you have prolly never given "US" the USA shit, other than your stupid as opinion. 2nd you have no sense of the words sacrafice and humanity, 3rd you are the fucking barbarians who would sit back and watch such things happen to human beings be them Muslim or what ever. Most of you guys base your opinions of foreign affairs on stupid shit and shit you hear in the media, or from your dumb ass friends who are equally as fucking stupid as you are. ASk yourself this if you seen a women being raped, would you mind your own fucking buisness or take action? Its just that simple, Bush chose not to watch a nation of people continue to be raped, murdered, tortured and opressed. I do not know one person who has been there who does not understand what we were there for, if you have not been there then STFU. And all of you HAve a Blessed Day :)
 
lol @ people who actually believe the invasion of Iraq was to find weapons of mass destruction lolololol...it was purely for money man...seriously

and how is this money supposed to be made?
it's cost us a fortune, not made us one...pretty obvious.
 
I'm still waiting for all those massive oil receipts we are getting from Iraq.
 
Bush chose not to watch a nation of people continue to be raped, murdered, tortured and opressed.

Apparently in our haste, in Afghanistan, we forgot to snuff out the rape part. The consideration of women and children needs to be paramount when re-shuffling a social paradigm, no way around it.

Afghanistan's dirty little secret


Western forces fighting in southern Afghanistan had a problem. Too often, soldiers on patrol passed an older man walking hand-in-hand with a pretty young boy. Their behavior suggested he was not the boy's father. Then, British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," military investigator AnnaMaria Cardinalli told me. "The soldiers didn't understand."

All of this was so disconcerting that the Defense Department hired Cardinalli, a social scientist, to examine this mystery. Her report, "Pashtun Sexuality," startled not even one Afghan. But Western forces were shocked - and repulsed.

For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.

"Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy."

Baghlan province is in the northeast, but Afghans say pedophilia is most prevalent among Pashtun men in the south. The Pashtun are Afghanistan's most important tribe. For centuries, the nation's leaders have been Pashtun.

President Hamid Karzai is Pashtun, from a village near Kandahar, and he has six brothers. So the natural question arises: Has anyone in the Karzai family been bacha baz? Two Afghans with close connections to the Karzai family told me they know that at least one family member and perhaps two were bacha baz. Afraid of retribution, both declined to be identified and would not be more specific for publication.

As for Karzai, an American who worked in and around his palace in an official capacity for many months told me that homosexual behavior "was rampant" among "soldiers and guys on the security detail. They talked about boys all the time."

He added, "I didn't see Karzai with anyone. He was in his palace most of the time." He, too, declined to be identified.

In Kandahar, population about 500,000, and other towns, dance parties are a popular, often weekly, pastime. Young boys dress up as girls, wearing makeup and bells on their feet, and dance for a dozen or more leering middle-aged men who throw money at them and then take them home. A recent State Department report called "dancing boys" a "widespread, culturally sanctioned form of male rape."

So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth? And how did Afghanistan become the pedophilia capital of Asia?

Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can't even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.

"How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful."

Even after marriage, many men keep their boys, suggesting a loveless life at home. A favored Afghan expression goes: "Women are for children, boys are for pleasure." Fundamentalist imams, exaggerating a biblical passage on menstruation, teach that women are "unclean" and therefore distasteful. One married man even asked Cardinalli's team "how his wife could become pregnant," her report said. When that was explained, he "reacted with disgust" and asked, "How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean?"

That helps explain why women are hidden away - and stoned to death if they are perceived to have misbehaved. Islamic law also forbids homosexuality. But the pedophiles explain that away. It's not homosexuality, they aver, because they aren't in love with their boys.

Addressing the loathsome mistreatment of Afghan women remains a primary goal for coalition governments, as it should be.

But what about the boys, thousands upon thousands of little boys who are victims of serial rape over many years, destroying their lives - and Afghan society.

"There's no issue more horrifying and more deserving of our attention than this," Cardinalli said. "I'm continually haunted by what I saw."

As one boy, in tow of a man he called "my lord," told the Reuters reporter: "Once I grow up, I will be an owner, and I will have my own boys."

© 2010 Joel Brinkley

Joel Brinkley is a professor of journalism at Stanford University and is a former Pulitzer Prize-winning foreign correspondent for the New York Times. Contact The Chronicle via our online form: sfgate.com/chronicle/submissions/#1.

Read more: Afghanistan's dirty little secret


Oh, yeah, please don't argue just 'cuz the Greeks instituted/sanctioned it, it must be....blah,blah, blah.......
 
and how is this money supposed to be made?
it's cost us a fortune, not made us one...pretty obvious.

It's cost you and me a fortune, but many people in the US made a killing...the kind of people that start wars and benefit from them.
 
It's cost you and me a fortune, but many people in the US made a killing...the kind of people that start wars and benefit from them.

Someone always wins and loses in war, be it financially or otherwise. That cant be avoided when an event as geopolitically large as a war occurs. Someone made a killing in Gulf War 1, Vietnam, Korea, WW2 (Oscar Schindler for starters), etc. The government will always need contractors in the private sector to do its bidding during war. Its just the way it is and isnt going to change anytime soon no matter where the war is or who the war is between.
 
Apparently in our haste, in Afghanistan, we forgot to snuff out the rape part. The consideration of women and children needs to be paramount when re-shuffling a social paradigm, no way around it.

Afghanistan's dirty little secret





Oh, yeah, please don't argue just 'cuz the Greeks instituted/sanctioned it, it must be....blah,blah, blah.......

now that shtuff is mad screwed up, whats even more messed up is these stupid donkey flippin religious traditions like celibacy for catholic priests or frickin women bein covered up from head to durn toe keep gettin passed from generation to generation.... good motherbleepin lord when is everyone gonna wake up and have common freaking sense no matter whatever goofy religious sheezy u wanna believe.... holy ship muslim womenz stop wearin that flippin ridiculous sheet outfit you're promoting lil boys gettin raped and u fartin catholics aren't much better with ur stupid assanine frackin traditions.... how bout lets get deadly serious about gettin rid of stupid bologna religious bullpoop that is the root cause for almost all terrorism and obviously lil boy rape too
 
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now that shit is mad fucked up, whats even more fucked up is these stupid ass fuckin religious traditions like celibacy for catholic priests or fuckin women bein covered up from head to fuckin toe keep gettin passed from generation to generation.... good motherfuckin lord when is everyone gonna wake up and have common fuckin sense no matter whatever goofy religious shit u wanna believe.... holy shit muslim womenz stop wearin that fuckin ridiculous sheet outfit you're promoting lil boys gettin raped and u fukin catholics aren't much better with ur stupid ass fuckin traditions.... how bout lets get deadly serious about gettin rid of stupid ass religious bullshit that is the root cause for almost all terrorism and obviously lil boy rape too

Before the Taliban, Afghanistan was a much more westernized culture one could say. Women weren't required to wear the burkah, and they could hold prestigious titles/careers. They were able to pursue higher education and even become professors themselves to teach future generations.

But, those backwoods religious extremists destroyed that nation. It's still in shambles today.
 
now that shit is mad fucked up, whats even more fucked up is these stupid ass fuckin religious traditions like celibacy for catholic priests or fuckin women bein covered up from head to fuckin toe keep gettin passed from generation to generation.... good motherfuckin lord when is everyone gonna wake up and have common fuckin sense no matter whatever goofy religious shit u wanna believe.... holy shit muslim womenz stop wearin that fuckin ridiculous sheet outfit you're promoting lil boys gettin raped and u fukin catholics aren't much better with ur stupid ass fuckin traditions.... how bout lets get deadly serious about gettin rid of stupid ass religious bullshit that is the root cause for almost all terrorism and obviously lil boy rape too
Dude you use the F word more than me. Clean up your act ngr.
 
Dude you use the F word more than me. Clean up your act ngr.

you're the motherfusser that made me fugginn think that it was o motherfreakin k to use that fartin language, must have took it too far though didn't mean to offend anyone ill edit my post....
 
holy ship muslim womenz stop wearin that flippin ridiculous sheet outfit you're promoting lil boys gettin raped

A perpetrator is responsible for their(his) acts regardless of how he tries to rationalize his motive for carrying out the crime.

Sheesh, talk about blaming women twice for a crime.
 
how would that rationalize the perps crime?

Rapists *rationalize* their crime by blaming the victim..."she dressed too provocatively, so she deserved what she got". "She wore a burka so I couldn't tell if she was pretty or not, therefore I had to take a beautiful child in her place."
 
Rapists *rationalize* their crime by blaming the victim..."she dressed too provocatively, so she deserved what she got". "She wore a burka so I couldn't tell if she was pretty or not, therefore I had to take a beautiful child in her place."

well im not a rapist so i wasn't rationalizing it and i definitely dont see how anyone could see that as rational, and i definitely wasn't blaming women i was blaming the tradition which women are conforming to and the men are imposing
 
well im not a rapist so i wasn't rationalizing it and i definitely dont see how anyone could see that as rational, and i definitely wasn't blaming women i was blaming the tradition which women are conforming to and the men are imposing
ugh, simmer down. I didn't accuse you of being a rapist.

Here is what you said:
Quote posted by bigpokey
holy ship muslim womenz stop wearin that flippin ridiculous sheet outfit you're promoting lil boys gettin raped

You implied it was the burka draped woman's fault that boys were getting raped. It is not, it is the perpetrator's fault, REGARDLESS of how they (the rapists) try to assign blame (ie: rationalize their criminal acts). I can't be any more clearer than that.

I absolutely agree that it's a deeeeeep abomination of Qu'ran law which contributes to the systematic abuse of these children.
 
ugh, simmer down. I didn't accuse you of being a rapist.

Here is what you said:


You implied it was the burka draped woman's fault that boys were getting raped. It is not, it is the perpetrator's fault, REGARDLESS of how they (the rapists) try to assign blame (ie: rationalize their criminal acts). I can't be any more clearer than that.

I absolutely agree that it's a deeeeeep abomination of Qu'ran law which contributes to the systematic abuse of these children.

well i can see how u would think i was implying that, but i didn't mean that at all, it is their choice to wear the attire though and i do believe the burka draped women are supporting one facet of a tradition/religion that ultimately fosters male perversion on little boys the same way that catholic celibacy on the basis of "purity" results in unnatural perversion on lil boys by catholic priests.... so just as i would say women stop wearing the burkas i would also say catholics stop going to churches that enforce/condone celibacy for priests which is also a contributing factor in lil boys getting raped.... my point wasn't gender/religion specific and of course it's just my opinion but i think the outcome of religions equating consensual hetero/homo sex with sin or impurity is ridiculous and also detrimental to the innocent children who end up being the victims

so basically if u support either of those systems or similar traditions you're indirectly supporting the molestation of children IMO... maybe there's no correlation it could be just coincidence i guess?
 
well i can see how u would think i was implying that, but i didn't mean that at all, it is their choice to wear the attire though and i do believe the burka draped women are supporting one facet of a tradition/religion that ultimately fosters male perversion on little boys the same way that catholic celibacy on the basis of "purity" results in unnatural perversion on lil boys by catholic priests.... so just as i would say women stop wearing the burkas i would also say catholics stop going to churches that enforce/condone celibacy for priests which is also a contributing factor in lil boys getting raped.... my point wasn't gender/religion specific and of course it's just my opinion but i think the outcome of religions equating consensual hetero/homo sex with sin or impurity is ridiculous and also detrimental to the innocent children who end up being the victims

so basically if u support either of those systems or similar traditions you're indirectly supporting the molestation of children IMO... maybe there's no correlation it could be just coincidence i guess?
Pokey now you are being a contributing member, and as for me teaching you to drop the F bomb, it would have taken me at least 3 posts to drop as many as you did in 1.
 
Pokey now you are being a contributing member, and as for me teaching you to drop the F bomb, it would have taken me at least 3 posts to drop as many as you did in 1.

is that an official blessing from the chosen one then??? and im pretty sure an ocean full of f bombs aren't as offensive as "fucked up as a 9 eyed ngr with a football bat" lolololl
 
is that an official blessing from the chosen one then??? and im pretty sure an ocean full of f bombs aren't as offensive as "fucked up as a 9 eyed ngr with a football bat" lolololl
LOLZ yea my blessings for now. Keep up the contribution to the site, you seem to be far more intelligent than you have lead the peeps to believe. Me, I am every bit the scholar they think I am. I have a poets way with words as well.:D And I am indeed The Chosen One
 
You implied it was the burka draped woman's fault that boys were getting raped. It is not, it is the perpetrator's fault, REGARDLESS of how they (the rapists) try to assign blame (ie: rationalize their criminal acts). I can't be any more clearer than that.

I think he wasn't trying to say it was their fault, but he got the idea from your story:

Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can't even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.

"How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful."

So blame 29-year-old Mohammed Daud, et.al. for saying it is the burka draped woman's fault that these men are raping boys.

And pokey, it's not always a choice for women to wear the burka. Most times it's a requirement. Any other choice would lead to their death in many of these societies.
 
And pokey, it's not always a choice for women to wear the burka. Most times it's a requirement. Any other choice would lead to their death in many of these societies.

no doubt, i realize the consequences to not wearing the burka in some countries make it a requirement not a choice, very sad deal the amount of oppression women still are faced with in these countries.... i live in texas and attend a public university and see young women with burkas on around campus every day, it kinda blows my mind and the burka wearing ladies ive met and interacted with in class seem really normal and cool which was kinda surprising to me i suppose.... its hard for me to understand why they still adhere to that tradition when they're really smart and educated, i think it kinda shows how deep the oppression really goes that even when women have a choice they're scared to break the mold.... maybe they feel like they don't have a choice cause they live at home and their families would disown them, i dunno and i dont really get it but i feel bad for emm... hopefully there will be an anti burka movement someday cause some of the girls i met were pretty hot but i mean i can't really get past the burka thing to wanna hit on emm and they sure are missin out on some good weiner id be willing to share
 
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