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Walmart looting = Reparations for Blacks

gjohnson5 said:
This is a general problem with education in America that tends to shy away from accomplishments and achievments of African Americans. Infact African American history doesn't get much press at all in schools except black ones.

Maybe this is the reason they demanded an MLK drive??


Infact the educational system here in America seems to be the genral problem with this thread. It really is a shame that Crispus Attucks gets more talk in history books then Maya Angelou. The fact that the first person to die in the revolutionary war was black may be in important point , but it seems as if the eductional system has been in denial ever since...

I would go so far as to say the only blacks that 'get discussed at the dinner table" would be professional athletes... This is also a travesty in my mind and an indication that race relations definitly still strained... With Latino populations rising in America , the "majority" may find themselves to be a minority. Infact I've already read threads about Texas where white has complained about the rising populations of latinos and the sole reason for this in thier words "illegal immigration".

The statement "can't we all just get along" How am I supposed to get along with people who make statements like "thier looting because they are black" While being 75% black?? Such a statement can only be viewed in one manner, but unfortunately there are mutiple people with similar feeling. I could turn a blind eye and just ignore. I feel that ignornace is 1/2 of the problem here and the sole reason why such statements have not been heavily punished to date.

Well I am going to leave this thread and head for less inflamatory and more intelligent speech.
 
GJ,

I attended primary school in a location where inner city kids were given opportunities that upper crust, suburban white kids could not buy if they tried. Without fail, the educational opportunites presented were rebuked with negative attitudes composed of feelings of being ''wronged'' and displaying attitudes similiar to the ''just want to hustle.'' Over 90% of these kids were black. I was a suburban white kid who was able to attend this school due to the fact that my mother taught in the district.

Want to know what happened to this district? The program folded due to abysmal achievement test scores.

The point of this post: In this example (lets not kid like it's isolated) numerous black kids were given the opportunity to learn a skill that would put them ahead of even private school educated kids, and most of them threw it away. Just fucking pissed on it. In my opinion it was their piss poor attitude about how they've been constantly wronged their whole life by a white male population. The same white male dominated population who funded the schools they threw away.

Before you start trying to pick apart my argument saying it's soley conjecture, take this into account: I attended those magnet schools, and my mom was a teacher representative to the school board.

To validate my claims, I invite you to google or do any search on the desegregation programs which took place in the Kansas City Missouri school district during the early to mid 90's.

I dont have to be a bigot to know that from my experience that it's the attitude, not aptitude of the black community which continues to ''keep them down''

A similar problem you illustrate yourself. Instead of focusing on positive steps society can take to paint a more fair (in your opinion) picture of the black community, you're argument is based soley on percieved prejudices in the educational (indoctrination) system in the US. Focus on ways the black community can better itself and its image; things like lower crime, less drug use, less ''hustler'' attitude.
 
WTF??? look what Websense fired back at me when opening your link

"The Websense category "Racism and Hate" is filtered."
 
Whoa, long thread...

Just my opinion - if this lawlessness continues for another 24 hours, we will see the NG collect every living person from the area and throw them in internment camps, both to get them food and water AND to keep them from causing further destruction in the city. Those that don't go, or resist, are going to be shot where they stand. The NG might have another Kent State on thier hands pretty soon, but it won't be their fault.

I am thinking this will look like the Cuban refugees living under the highways of Miami after the 1980 Cuban Boat Lift.

It is a bad situation - lack of water, food, clean clothes, beds, AC. On top of this you have people that are taking advantage of the situation by looting, shooting, robbing...it is shaping up to be a huge social disaster.

The People of NY took pride in their city and pride in being New Yorkers after 9/11. What we are seeing in NO is the complete opposite.


Bluesman
 
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juicedmohawk said:
GJ,

I attended primary school in a location where inner city kids were given opportunities that upper crust, suburban white kids could not buy if they tried. Without fail, the educational opportunites presented were rebuked with negative attitudes composed of feelings of being ''wronged'' and displaying attitudes similiar to the ''just want to hustle.'' Over 90% of these kids were black. I was a suburban white kid who was able to attend this school due to the fact that my mother taught in the district.

Want to know what happened to this district? The program folded due to abysmal achievement test scores.

The point of this post: In this example (lets not kid like it's isolated) numerous black kids were given the opportunity to learn a skill that would put them ahead of even private school educated kids, and most of them threw it away. Just fucking pissed on it. In my opinion it was their piss poor attitude about how they've been constantly wronged their whole life by a white male population. The same white male dominated population who funded the schools they threw away.

Before you start trying to pick apart my argument saying it's soley conjecture, take this into account: I attended those magnet schools, and my mom was a teacher representative to the school board.

To validate my claims, I invite you to google or do any search on the desegregation programs which took place in the Kansas City Missouri school district during the early to mid 90's.

I dont have to be a bigot to know that from my experience that it's the attitude, not aptitude of the black community which continues to ''keep them down''

A similar problem you illustrate yourself. Instead of focusing on positive steps society can take to paint a more fair (in your opinion) picture of the black community, you're argument is based soley on percieved prejudices in the educational (indoctrination) system in the US. Focus on ways the black community can better itself and its image; things like lower crime, less drug use, less ''hustler'' attitude.


Even if your assumptions were true....what does the Kansas City School System have to do with people of color overall ? Is it fair to say that what goes on in Kansas City applies to the masses ?



when you say keep them down...who exactly are you referring to ?
 
2ez said:
Even if your assumptions were true....what does the Kansas City School System have to do with people of color overall ? Is it fair to say that what goes on in Kansas City applies to the masses ?



when you say keep them down...who exactly are you referring to ?
Although I think there are certain aspects which apply to the spirited racial discussion that has been the prevailing theme of this thread, the post was directed at GJ's assessment (spelling?) of the american educational/indoctrination experience.

No, I dont think its that far of a jump to use KC as a representative sample of the attitude which plagues the black culture. I've since relocated and live in the Little Rock Arkansas area. Little Rock seems to be the invisible line between the midsouth and the dirty south. My experience hasn't been isolated. There was recently a 10 year follow up story done on some landmark investigative reporting/research in the Little Rock area having to do with gang violence which was started in 1995 (dont have the results handy, will try to find them). Because of it's strategic location along the intersection of Interstates 40 and 65, Little Rock has been a key location of major drug trafficking and violence in the midsouth.
 
Steve The Bluesman said:
The People of NY took pride in their city and pride in being New Yorkers after 9/11. What we are seeing in NO is the complete opposite.


Bluesman
I wonder why. Maybe the lack of civility in the majority of the NO population!
:Chef: :tuc:
 
juicedmohawk said:
Although I think there are certain aspects which apply to the spirited racial discussion that has been the prevailing theme of this thread, the post was directed at GJ's assessment (spelling?) of the american educational/indoctrination experience.

No, I dont think its that far of a jump to use KC as a representative sample of the attitude which plagues the black culture. I've since relocated and live in the Little Rock Arkansas area. Little Rock seems to be the invisible line between the midsouth and the dirty south. My experience hasn't been isolated. There was recently a 10 year follow up story done on some landmark investigative reporting/research in the Little Rock area having to do with gang violence which was started in 1995 (dont have the results handy, will try to find them). Because of it's strategic location along the intersection of Interstates 40 and 65, Little Rock has been a key location of major drug trafficking and gang violence in the midsouth.


Please explain the aspects which apply to the "spirited racial discussion." Just trying to get a clear understand of what you are saying.

Also, excuse my naievete, but can you explain to me what plagues the black culture and why are you mentioning a study that was done on gang violence ?


Any thoughts on why New Orleans was so poorly prepared for the hurricane ? Florida seems to always be better prepared for such a natural occurrence..what happened to New Orleans .
 
manny78 said:
Why dont they just drop some KFC here and there. That should calm down the situation for a day at least lol

Banned!
 
Any thoughts on why New Orleans was so poorly prepared for the hurricane ? Florida seems to always be better prepared for such a natural occurrence..what happened to New Orleans .


They warned everyone to get out of the city days in advance. They even said it was a mandatory evac in New Orleans. The people that stayed were either stubborn, stupid, or just plain couldn't afford it.

The cities levee system needed more funding from the federal government to make the levees taller or stronger. That would have stopped the "2ond wave" of flooding (the levee system held up for the hurricane, but had a few breaches the day after due to water pressure).

Basically, from my viewpoint, here are a few things that could have been done:

-proper calculation of the amount of busses/ambulances/nationalguardsmen that the city would need in the "worst case scenario" as far as how the hurricane would hit New Orleans (the hurricane didn't even hit us in the worst way...it would be off the map if it hit us like Biloxi..trust me).

-millitary on guard to contain the savages that stay back during hurricanes and goto the superdome (basically, downtown CBD of neworleans becomes the 2ond projects).

-more sandbagging in key areas in advance.

They also need to bring all of these things to Baton Rouge so they can move in IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STORM!!


Also people, when you see all the looters/assholes on tv, you are seeing the lowest of the low in New Orleans..these are basically the people that commit all of the murders. The suburbs of New Orleans, as well as many mid-upper class neighborhoods in New Orleans are just fine, the people are fine, and it is like any other suburb I have been to around the country. Hell, back home in Kenner I don't even put the house alarm on or lock the door all of the time. I know I don't have to worry about those savages that you see on TV.

Disclaimer: I'm not racist in any way. I am just being realistic. Look at who is commiting the acts and you have your answer. I have friends who are black. I am sure they are just as disgusted at these peices of shit as I am.
 
Ralph_Wiggum said:
They warned everyone to get out of the city days in advance. They even said it was a mandatory evac in New Orleans. The people that stayed were either stubborn, stupid, or just plain couldn't afford it.

The cities levee system needed more funding from the federal government to make the levees taller or stronger. That would have stopped the "2ond wave" of flooding (the levee system held up for the hurricane, but had a few breaches the day after due to water pressure).

Basically, from my viewpoint, here are a few things that could have been done:

-proper calculation of the amount of busses/ambulances/nationalguardsmen that the city would need in the "worst case scenario" as far as how the hurricane would hit New Orleans (the hurricane didn't even hit us in the worst way...it would be off the map if it hit us like Biloxi..trust me).

-millitary on guard to contain the savages that stay back during hurricanes and goto the superdome (basically, downtown CBD of neworleans becomes the 2ond projects).

-more sandbagging in key areas in advance.

They also need to bring all of these things to Baton Rouge so they can move in IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STORM!!


Also people, when you see all the looters/assholes on tv, you are seeing the lowest of the low in New Orleans..these are basically the people that commit all of the murders. The suburbs of New Orleans, as well as many mid-upper class neighborhoods in New Orleans are just fine, the people are fine, and it is like any other suburb I have been to around the country. Hell, back home in Kenner I don't even put the house alarm on or lock the door all of the time. I know I don't have to worry about those savages that you see on TV.

Disclaimer: I'm not racist in any way. I am just being realistic. Look at who is commiting the acts and you have your answer. I have friends who are black. I am sure they are just as disgusted at these peices of shit as I am.


This is in NO....I guess they forgot about these tools at their disposal.

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juicedmohawk said:
The point of this post: In this example (lets not kid like it's isolated) numerous black kids were given the opportunity to learn a skill that would put them ahead of even private school educated kids, and most of them threw it away. Just fucking pissed on it. In my opinion it was their piss poor attitude about how they've been constantly wronged their whole life by a white male population. The same white male dominated population who funded the schools they threw away.

This is the focus of your post. Do you understand that by using the term "black community" is a generalization. You are taking a whole group of people and applying an conclusion of peoples attitudes towards a whole community. Do you now see the error in this? You are basically making a general conclusion based on skin color.
 
Ralph_Wiggum said:
They warned everyone to get out of the city days in advance. They even said it was a mandatory evac in New Orleans. The people that stayed were either stubborn, stupid, or just plain couldn't afford it.

The cities levee system needed more funding from the federal government to make the levees taller or stronger. That would have stopped the "2ond wave" of flooding (the levee system held up for the hurricane, but had a few breaches the day after due to water pressure).

Basically, from my viewpoint, here are a few things that could have been done:

-proper calculation of the amount of busses/ambulances/nationalguardsmen that the city would need in the "worst case scenario" as far as how the hurricane would hit New Orleans (the hurricane didn't even hit us in the worst way...it would be off the map if it hit us like Biloxi..trust me).

-millitary on guard to contain the savages that stay back during hurricanes and goto the superdome (basically, downtown CBD of neworleans becomes the 2ond projects).

-more sandbagging in key areas in advance.

They also need to bring all of these things to Baton Rouge so they can move in IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STORM!!


Also people, when you see all the looters/assholes on tv, you are seeing the lowest of the low in New Orleans..these are basically the people that commit all of the murders. The suburbs of New Orleans, as well as many mid-upper class neighborhoods in New Orleans are just fine, the people are fine, and it is like any other suburb I have been to around the country. Hell, back home in Kenner I don't even put the house alarm on or lock the door all of the time. I know I don't have to worry about those savages that you see on TV.

Disclaimer: I'm not racist in any way. I am just being realistic. Look at who is commiting the acts and you have your answer. I have friends who are black. I am sure they are just as disgusted at these peices of shit as I am.

You are making a racist statement by saying ALL the acts of looting and violence are being done by blacks. This is just a generalization and is totally inaccurate

But I'll agree with you that $$$ had alot to do with why many blacks did not leave NO when the storm hit. many whites did not leave either and they , black and white, will pay with thier lives if they don't get out if they haven't been killed already
 
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chefbone said:
Doubt it! :Chef: :tuc:


You can't possibly believe that. do you live in a bubble?
 
eat big said:
Any lower class person would do this don't you think? I don't think it's a racial issue at all.


Yes they would.

Firing on rescuers though is unacceptable. Those are just plain thugs.
 
chefbone said:
I do believe that because I don't live in a bubble! :Chef: :tuc:


so ONLY lower class black people are capable of Violence?
 
Frisky said:
so ONLY lower class black people are capable of Violence?
No, but poor blacks(whom reside in New Orleans and the surrounding area) are more inclined to loot during/after a natural disaster such as Hurricane Katrina.

:Chef: :tuc:
 
chefbone said:
No, but poor blacks(whom reside in New Orleans and the surrounding area) are more inclined to loot during/after a natural disaster such as Hurricane Katrina.

:Chef: :tuc:

Trash is Trash.... It doesn't discriminate race
 
chefbone said:
Let's be realistic, please. :Chef: :tuc:

I am being real.

I've seen white, black, hispanic, asian... trash that have done the same things when they had the opportunity. I don't think trash of one race is any better than trash of another.

In this situation the violence is done by predominately blacks because NO is pedominately black... this can't be debated.

BUT I won't buy the fact that A bad black man is worse than a bad white man.
 
Frisky said:
I am being real.

I've seen white, black, hispanic, asian... trash that have done the same things when they had the opportunity. I don't think trash of one race is any better than trash of another.

In this situation the violence is done by predominately blacks because NO is pedominately black... this can't be debated.

BUT I won't buy the fact that A bad black man is worse than a bad white man.

True, but there's a reason why there are MORE poor black people than white people.

More often than not, they are the main facilitators of their own poverty and problems. I know those neighborhoods have libraries, yet most head to the liquor store. Why should society be responsible for that choice?
 
Razorguns said:
True, but there's a reason why there are MORE poor black people than white people.

More often than not, they are the main facilitators of their own poverty and problems. I know those neighborhoods have libraries, yet most head to the liquor store. Why should society be responsible for that choice?

Every State has "that town or city or suburb"

Every man created equal, every life valued the same.

Every day I pay taxes to support these peoples habits, and it sucks... I don't think what they are doing is right.... NOT ONE BIT. hell they are taking these voilent gangs and bringing them IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

I freaking hate even thinking about it. They will continue to do what they do no matter what State or City they are in.
 
Razorguns said:
True, but there's a reason why there are MORE poor black people than white people.

More often than not, they are the main facilitators of their own poverty and problems. I know those neighborhoods have libraries, yet most head to the liquor store. Why should society be responsible for that choice?

I try to stay off this thread because I can only handle so much ignorant bullshit.

You should read "When Affirmative action was white" and read about the policies (mostly under FDR's New Deal) that created the white middle class while oppressing blacks.

Yes that's right, the middle class (white or black) is a government creation. But in its creation, whites were heavily favored.

Surprised?

So let's take a look at the history of southern blacks here in the USA:

slavery --> reconstruction --> sharecropping --> Jim Crow --> enforced segregation--> installation as a lower class by FDR's programs--> unenforced segregation --> second class status even after civil rights laws were passed --> well intended but misguided "reverse racism" programs like affirmative action--> today.

hundreds of years of this type of treatment and you really have to wonder why things turned out the way they have?
 
Well, today we are supposed to be all equal with the same rights and opportunities. In fact, a Mexican crossing the border illegaly, is able to work, live here and even send money back to Mexico for his family. That proves me that nobody is poor here, unless somebody wants to live as a poor.

After what we've seen on TV, why this people has to recieve help from the government? I talk about the criminals looting and shooting on the streets (not mentioning any specific race) That help goes directly from our pockets.
 
There is no city in the country adequately prepared for the 100 year storm, which is basically what NO just got. People don't want to spend money on something that will probably never happen........at least not until it does happen.
 
MattTheSkywalker said:
I try to stay off this thread because I can only handle so much ignorant bullshit.

You should read "When Affirmative action was white" and read about the policies (mostly under FDR's New Deal) that created the white middle class while oppressing blacks.

Yes that's right, the middle class (white or black) is a government creation. But in its creation, whites were heavily favored.

Surprised?

So let's take a look at the history of southern blacks here in the USA:

slavery --> reconstruction --> sharecropping --> Jim Crow --> enforced segregation--> installation as a lower class by FDR's programs--> unenforced segregation --> second class status even after civil rights laws were passed --> well intended but misguided "reverse racism" programs like affirmative action--> today.

hundreds of years of this type of treatment and you really have to wonder why things turned out the way they have?

This is 2005, not 1960. We also had a great depression once. Are we still reeling from it? No -- we picked up, rolled up our sleeves and created a much better environment.

Poor neighborhoods became poor due to history -- yes -- but there's no reason why poor people can't find the resolve to "not" be poor. Especially for kids born of today whose events that you describe, are not even a distant memory. Even the schools they go to are better than the ones in mexico -- yet mexicans come here to bust their asses, yet they do not. What's their excuse?

Imagine after the depression we were resolved to american being doomed forever? If all Americans had the mindset of the poor, we'd still be using outhouses.

Rationalizing the poor is what creates social benefit programs which only serve to keep them there. If you wanna keep giving up your taxes to keep people at home smoking crack and having babies -- go ahead. It's your money.
 
Razorguns said:
True, but there's a reason why there are MORE poor black people than white people.

More often than not, they are the main facilitators of their own poverty and problems. I know those neighborhoods have libraries, yet most head to the liquor store. Why should society be responsible for that choice?



How many liquor stores are in your area my friend ? Go to the urban areas and compare and contrast the libraries and schools there, against those in your area.


don't just stop there...compare the grocery and other retail stores.
 
2ez said:
How many liquor stores are in your area my friend ? Go to the urban areas and compare and contrast the libraries and schools there, against those in your area.


don't just stop there...compare the grocery and other retail stores.

Meaning ?

If everyone in the ghetto wanted to go to more libraries -- they'd build more.

People in India grow up poor, making $10/month -- and by age 25, are writing million dollar softwares and coming to america to make $80k/year. They were poor and they did it. Facts are demonstrative.

The inability to affect change in the neighboorhood is the problem. You can't twist the arm of people who don't want to change.
 
Razorguns said:
The inability to affect change in the neighboorhood is the problem. You can't twist the arm of people who don't want to change.

Worthy of Websters.
 
HumorMe said:
Yes they would.

Firing on rescuers though is unacceptable. Those are just plain thugs.

Yeah, I'm just talking about the looting in general not firing on people trying to help.
 
Razorguns said:
Meaning ?

If everyone in the ghetto wanted to go to more libraries -- they'd build more.

People in India grow up poor, making $10/month -- and by age 25, are writing million dollar softwares and coming to america to make $80k/year. They were poor and they did it. Facts are demonstrative.

The inability to affect change in the neighboorhood is the problem. You can't twist the arm of people who don't want to change.

lol at they would build more.
 
gjohnson5 said:
This is the focus of your post. Do you understand that by using the term "black community" is a generalization. You are taking a whole group of people and applying an conclusion of peoples attitudes towards a whole community. Do you now see the error in this? You are basically making a general conclusion based on skin color.

i think hes trying to have an honest discussion about the topic.

i just dont understand why people are SO afraid of talking about reality. that reality is very clear, no one is making it up, its not be a rascist or prejudice, its not about shaming anyone. its about having an honest discussion about REAL problems. but ive never been ashamed of any problem ive ever had so i guess i dont understand some of that mentality.

there is no doubt that the black community has problems, and if saying 'black community' is a generlization in any negative way then we might as well drop the discussion. if we cant get past that simple variable we have no business discussion the problem or any solution, i and i dont give a shit if your black or white. the problems in the black community affect us all.
 
Frisky said:
so ONLY lower class black people are capable of Violence?

NO! but the facts are that lower class black people perpretrate more violence percentage wise. and im not attaching any particular reasons why but that is fact.
 
rich people tend to be far less violent.. they have more to lose if they get killed or get put in prison for life
 
2ez said:
How many liquor stores are in your area my friend ? Go to the urban areas and compare and contrast the libraries and schools there, against those in your area.


don't just stop there...compare the grocery and other retail stores.

your right as is matt. i think someone would have to be a frecking idiot not to know what happened or is still happening.

but what your giving them and they give themselves is an excuse. the liquor stores, gun stores, pawn shops and shitty grocery stores ARE NOT leaving, so whats that tell you? you have to do something about yourself instead. that means come together as a community or family and pull yourself out of that shit.
 
I always wondered what the scientific name for the different human 'races' were called, but never really found an answer. It always seemed more a philosophical argument than scientific one.



The Concept of Human Races: Uses and Problems


Introduction
The use of stereotyped morphophenotypic races as biologically distinct breeding units has continued despite the scientific ambiguities and inherent assumptions associated with them. The following paper will attempt to identify uses for traditional race nomenclature that exists in various fields of study, while discussing reasons for its invalidity in others and as a scientific distinction of human subspecies. What the term “race” actually means in a biological sense will be covered in terms of its definition and also in terms of its current use. Next, a discussion of folk taxonomy and its relevance to the race concept will be discussed. In addition, race will be discussed as a device for studying human population divergence patterns. The discussion of the use of race in studies of human population divergence will be followed by a review of why forensic anthropology is forced to use traditional race concepts in order to facilitate the useful dissemination of information in courtrooms, to police officers, and to the public that provides the source of data and the audience that must interpret forensic findings. The final sections of this paper will deal with the use of the race concept in demography and in the dissemination of information on at-risk groups for particular genetic disorders.



http://www.modernhumanorigins.com/anth372.html
 
I agree with a lot of people in this posts...I have a half black friend I have known for 6 years and he lives with me...Hes a great athlete and goes to college on a scholarship to play football because he didnt come from anything but he wanted to make something of his life and not just piss and moan. That being said there were 42 black kids who were seniors last year at my high school...only 19 graduated with us. I mean if you dont try and then later say its because you never had a chance thats bullshit...You need to get your act together, you live in the United States and with affirmitive action and everything now a days...your telling me its because we are holding them back on purpose???
 
jacked clown said:
I agree with a lot of people in this posts...I have a half black friend I have known for 6 years and he lives with me...Hes a great athlete and goes to college on a scholarship to play football because he didnt come from anything but he wanted to make something of his life and not just piss and moan. That being said there were 42 black kids who were seniors last year at my high school...only 19 graduated with us. I mean if you dont try and then later say its because you never had a chance thats bullshit...You need to get your act together, you live in the United States and with affirmitive action and everything now a days...your telling me its because we are holding them back on purpose???
Word!!!!
 
you know.. it doesn't freaking matter what these people have done they still deserve to be rescued.

Black, White, Mexican, Asian... Bad people are bad people. I know some white people that have been thru some serious shit and are scum.. and i mean scum! I also know some black people that were raised that way but have turned out to be good people. Lawers and Doctors.

Your life is what you make of it... no matter your race or sex or how much money you have.

I will not now nor ever discriminate due to race or sex.

we are in a state of emergency and all you people can seem to bring up is the fact that 'black' people are robbing and all this horrible stuff. Step up to the plate, make a difference. Put your energy to something positive and help get these people out of this desperate situation.

:rose:
 
Frisky said:
you know.. it doesn't freaking matter what these people have done they still deserve to be rescued.

Black, White, Mexican, Asian... Bad people are bad people. I know some white people that have been thru some serious shit and are scum.. and i mean scum! I also know some black people that were raised that way but have turned out to be good people. Lawers and Doctors.

Your life is what you make of it... no matter your race or sex or how much money you have.

I will not now nor ever discriminate due to race or sex.

we are in a state of emergency and all you people can seem to bring up is the fact that 'black' people are robbing and all this horrible stuff. Step up to the plate, make a difference. Put your energy to something positive and help get these people out of this desperate situation.

:rose:
Listen here sister, I have stepped the fuck up. I donate to the Red Cross and a normal basis. On top of that, I'm joining the service. 28 years old, businesses, money and family are being left behind. If that's not steppin' up...... :evil: :evil: :evil:
Why don't you step to the plate. What have you done that is positive?
 
eat big said:
Any lower class person would do this don't you think? I don't think it's a racial issue at all.
upper class too
plenty of looting examples in the corporate environment
there is an illness amongst the rich to "get more"
 
chefbone said:
Listen here sister, I have stepped the fuck up. I donate to the Red Cross and a normal basis. On top of that, I'm joining the service. 28 years old, businesses, money and family are being left behind. If that's not steppin' up...... :evil: :evil: :evil:
Why don't you step to the plate. What have you done that is positive?


my my aren't we sensitive

I AM donating my time and services to the evacuees as much as I can. Going and cook, help provide. Give what ever money I can and services I can.

I am in the process of raising money for the red cross as we speak. Going out and getting donations.

So you gather I was singling you out? We dont agree on everything but not one f**king time did i say that you wern't doing anything to help. Now don't f**king assume I'm not either.

god bless
 
wow I stuck a knife in that thread(no pun intended)

seriously
how high of a percentage of white middle to upper class people
when they got a hypothetical call from their broker
informing them that he had some inside knowledge of xyz event
and you can make a bundle with this illegal knowledge
 
This is one of the saddest threads I have ever read since becoming a member of this board back in 1999. I am reading a lot of regurgitated BS and others claiming to know the cause and effect of the ills within the black community. A levee broke that caused the flooding in New Orleans. The response to the situation down there has been slow. People are dying. Is this what one should expect from a cilvilized country. What does 19 out of 42 blacks graduating from a high school have to do with the response time and/or the levee not being fixed ? Is this some kind of justification for the slow response ?

A friend out in Atlanta took in over 50 people from the New Orleans area. Residents (not "refugees" like the news are reporting) are going any and everywhere.

This is a very sad, sad time in our country. Wish you all would see this for what it is.

Looking forward to reading some of the post, the next time I see rioting after a NHL, MLB or NCAA championship.
 
2ez said:
This is one of the saddest threads I have ever read since becoming a member of this board back in 1999. I am reading a lot of regurgitated BS and others claiming to know the cause and effect of the ills within the black community. A levee broke that caused the flooding in New Orleans. The response to the situation down there has been slow. People are dying. Is this what one should expect from a cilvilized country. What does 19 out of 42 blacks graduating from a high school have to do with the response time and/or the levee not being fixed ? Is this some kind of justification for the slow response ?

A friend out in Atlanta took in over 50 people from the New Orleans area. Residents (not "refugees" like the news are reporting) are going any and everywhere.

This is a very sad, sad time in our country. Wish you all would see this for what it is.

Looking forward to reading some of the post, the next time I see rioting after a NHL, MLB or NCAA championship.


As someone who has first-hand knowledge of rioting after NHL Stanley Cup final (Montreal in 1993), let me just say that riot was on account of ridiculous amounts of booze. It's totally different. Don't you dare tarnish the splendor of a good Cup riot by comparing it to the situation in New Orleans.
 
Yes the riots after sports games that have a death toll of...0

Still wrong to do but your comparing apples to a dilapidated duck corpse
 
jacked clown said:
Yes the riots after sports games that have a death toll of...0

Still wrong to do but your comparing apples to a dilapidated duck corpse



Thanks for your reply
 
canadianhitman said:
As someone who has first-hand knowledge of rioting after NHL Stanley Cup final (Montreal in 1993), let me just say that riot was on account of ridiculous amounts of booze. It's totally different. Don't you dare tarnish the splendor of a good Cup riot by comparing it to the situation in New Orleans.

As someone living in NY and witnessing 9/11 from a few blocks away and seeing Bush make a promise some 24hrs after the attacks...


I apologize for making such a ludicrous comparison.
 
To those that are a little more sympathic to the plight of our fellow Americans down in New Orleans...here are a few organizations that are trying to help:





American Red Cross
1-800-HELP NOW (435-7669) English
1-800-257-7575 Spanish
www.redcross.org

Operation Blessing
1-800-436-6348
www.ob.org

America's Second Harvest
1-800-344-8070
www.secondharvest.org

Donate Cash to and Volunteer with:

Adventist Community Services
1-800-381-7171
www.adventist.communityservices.org

Catholic Charities, USA
703 549-1390
www.catholiccharitiesusa.org

Christian Disaster Response
941-956-5183 or 941-551-9554
www.cdresponse.org

Christian Reformed World Relief Committee
1-800-848-5818
www.crwrc.org

Church World Service
1-800-297-1516
www.churchworldservice.org

Convoy of Hope
417-823-8998
www.convoyofhope.org

Lutheran Disaster Response
800-638-3522
www.elca.org

Mennonite Disaster Service
717-859-2210
www.mds.mennonite.net

Nazarene Disaster Response
888-256-5886
www.nazarenedisasterresponse.org

Presbyterian Disaster Assistance
800-872-3283
www.pcusa.org

Salvation Army
1-800-SAL-ARMY (725-2769)
www.salvationarmyusa.org

Southern Baptist Convention
1-800-462-8657, ext. 6440
www.sbc.net

United Methodist Committee on Relief
1-800-554-8583
http://gbgm-umc.org/umcor


Please note that I saw this posted on another board....I can not vouch for any of the organizations....so please do you due diligence in given.

Thanks !
 
Thank you 2ez and for being Santas little helper we all here at EF think you have a big heart and we all know "Republicans and Democrats met and shook their heads"
 
jacked clown said:
Thank you 2ez and for being Santas little helper we all here at EF think you have a big heart and we all know "Republicans and Democrats met and shook their heads"


My apologies for reiterating. Since you are the chosen spokesperson for everyone here. I will check with you before posting....as to eliminate duplicating efforts or being redundant.

Not sure why the Santas Little Helper comment, but I thank you. I have been feeling a little fat lately, and your "little" comment is appreciated.
 
chefbone said:
Listen here sister, I have stepped the fuck up. I donate to the Red Cross and a normal basis. On top of that, I'm joining the service. 28 years old, businesses, money and family are being left behind. If that's not steppin' up...... :evil: :evil: :evil:
Why don't you step to the plate. What have you done that is positive?

You are stepping up to the plate to open up your BIG ASS MOUTH and talk about blacks stealing anything they could find? Those people were hungry because our government failed them. If some people needed to steal for food/drinks from these local shops, then in this condition, I feel that it was justified. The percentage of gun bearing, people stealing just anything, etc was minimum compared to the number of hungry, hot, thirsty people just trying to get by. Many were poor, old, carless, and/or money-less people with few options except GET OUT OF NEW ORLEANS. And then go where when YOU HAVE NO MONEY? Wake up - little white nerd boy.

No, you're not racist . . . and Hitler loved Jews too.
 
justyxxxx said:
You are stepping up to the plate to open up your BIG ASS MOUTH and talk about blacks stealing anything they could find? Those people were hungry because our government failed them. If some people needed to steal for food/drinks from these local shops, then in this condition, I feel that it was justified. The percentage of gun bearing, people stealing just anything, etc was minimum compared to the number of hungry, hot, thirsty people just trying to get by. Many were poor, old, carless, and/or money-less people with few options except GET OUT OF NEW ORLEANS. And then go where when YOU HAVE NO MONEY? Wake up - little white nerd boy.

No, you're not racist . . . and Hitler loved Jews too.


I love how everyone is racist if they don't buy your side of the story. bigger lol at comparing chef to hitler...

Sorry to take the wind out of anyone's sails, but sadly I have been invovled in the most notrious (sp) sports riot of all time. MSU loss to duke in '98. Possibly the biggest sports riot of American history, I was right in the middle. Not even 10% close to what is going on in NO, sorry just not even the same level.
 
justyxxxx said:
You are stepping up to the plate to open up your BIG ASS MOUTH and talk about blacks stealing anything they could find? Those people were hungry because our government failed them. If some people needed to steal for food/drinks from these local shops, then in this condition, I feel that it was justified. The percentage of gun bearing, people stealing just anything, etc was minimum compared to the number of hungry, hot, thirsty people just trying to get by. Many were poor, old, carless, and/or money-less people with few options except GET OUT OF NEW ORLEANS. And then go where when YOU HAVE NO MONEY? Wake up - little white nerd boy.

No, you're not racist . . . and Hitler loved Jews too.


I hope you are not saying these people were poor because our government failed them. It is not the governments role to control poverty. Poverty is a social condition, and can be prevented through motivation, not through a handout.
 
justyxxxx said:
You are stepping up to the plate to open up your BIG ASS MOUTH and talk about blacks stealing anything they could find? Those people were hungry because our government failed them. If some people needed to steal for food/drinks from these local shops, then in this condition, I feel that it was justified. The percentage of gun bearing, people stealing just anything, etc was minimum compared to the number of hungry, hot, thirsty people just trying to get by. Many were poor, old, carless, and/or money-less people with few options except GET OUT OF NEW ORLEANS. And then go where when YOU HAVE NO MONEY? Wake up - little white nerd boy.

No, you're not racist . . . and Hitler loved Jews too.
First of all....Fuck You....I'm not racist!. Secondly, why didn't they leave when they had a chance: Walk, run, ride, pedal. Thirdly, it's one thing to steal sustenance but it's entirely another issue when they are stealing guns, dvd's, stereos, TV's ......etc....! Fourthly, fuck you...

And last but certainly not least....Are you Kanye West???? :evil:
 
justyxxxx said:
You are stepping up to the plate to open up your BIG ASS MOUTH and talk about blacks stealing anything they could find? Those people were hungry because our government failed them. If some people needed to steal for food/drinks from these local shops, then in this condition, I feel that it was justified. The percentage of gun bearing, people stealing just anything, etc was minimum compared to the number of hungry, hot, thirsty people just trying to get by. Many were poor, old, carless, and/or money-less people with few options except GET OUT OF NEW ORLEANS. And then go where when YOU HAVE NO MONEY? Wake up - little white nerd boy.

No, you're not racist . . . and Hitler loved Jews too.
Don't you have some cawks that need some sucky-sucky? :rainbow:
 
Gambino said:
I love how everyone is racist if they don't buy your side of the story. bigger lol at comparing chef to hitler...

Sorry to take the wind out of anyone's sails, but sadly I have been invovled in the most notrious (sp) sports riot of all time. MSU loss to duke in '98. Possibly the biggest sports riot of American history, I was right in the middle. Not even 10% close to what is going on in NO, sorry just not even the same level.


Did you break shit up too?

Thug.:D
 
justyxxxx you bring up a good point...that really "you people" have nothing intelligent to say on the matter just that...

1. The government failed ya'll and dont give you no green, right?
2. Shit you people (whites) are racist
3. Chefbone is actually Adolph Hitler?? I dont see this being possible but w/e
4. Looting to live is fine...so unless there using the cd players for pacemakers whats going on...
 
redguru said:
I hope you are not saying these people were poor because our government failed them. It is not the governments role to control poverty. Poverty is a social condition, and can be prevented through motivation, not through a handout.

That is not what I'm saying . . . I am pointing to this event and the bad situation that grew increasingly "desperate" that came from the lack of communication (and help).
 
Gambino said:
I love how everyone is racist if they don't buy your side of the story. bigger lol at comparing chef to hitler...

Sorry to take the wind out of anyone's sails, but sadly I have been invovled in the most notrious (sp) sports riot of all time. MSU loss to duke in '98. Possibly the biggest sports riot of American history, I was right in the middle. Not even 10% close to what is going on in NO, sorry just not even the same level.

Wrong Mr. Gambino - I'm not saying that. I am pointing out chef-limp-bone's need to believe that the majority of people (mainly black from what he posted) stayed behind to loot. Clearly his (chef-limp-bone's) African-American Grandmother had some KKK blood in her and passed it on down.
 
chefbone said:
First of all....Fuck You....I'm not racist!. Secondly, why didn't they leave when they had a chance: Walk, run, ride, pedal. Thirdly, it's one thing to steal sustenance but it's entirely another issue when they are stealing guns, dvd's, stereos, TV's ......etc....! Fourthly, fuck you...

And last but certainly not least....Are you Kanye West???? :evil:

Hmm . . . some old, mostly poor, some no car . . . how many times must you be hit over the head with these facts? And what plan was given to them to survive once they left? And "they" wasn't the majority - you continue to bring up "they" when "they" was a minority. The majority were trying to survive, but your racist roots continue to allow you to expand what a minority of people were doing to include an entire race (ie - everyone stayed around to loot).

chef-limp-bone-lil-nerd-white-boy, you wrongly worded this post. And thank you for the couple of "fuck you"'s - they turned me on. Please call me Bitch and Cunt too . . . PLEASE.
 
jacked clown said:
justyxxxx you bring up a good point...that really "you people" have nothing intelligent to say on the matter just that...

1. The government failed ya'll and dont give you no green, right?
2. Shit you people (whites) are racist
3. Chefbone is actually Adolph Hitler?? I dont see this being possible but w/e
4. Looting to live is fine...so unless there using the cd players for pacemakers whats going on...

#1 You're confusing desperation with normal reality. No - a lot of the stuff that went on there was WRONG - but the MAJORITY of people were just wanting to live, to eat, to get water, and to get the hell out of there. There's a big difference. #2 - I never said that in the way that you're wording it. #3 - I never said that he was Adolph Hitler. #4 - Refer to #1
 
nycgirl said:
I see the one drop rule doesn't apply to you. Never accused you of being racist.

Does the color matter? There are low-lifes in all colors & shades. Are they a disgrace to humans? Yes.

WAIT A MINUTE, they purposely stayed behind so they could loot (because that's what black people do, right?). If one hits the D.C. area, I'm going high-class. Fuck Walmart - I'm going to hit the Nordstorms up the street. I will create a thread about it. :rolleyes:

NYC is right...the entire ideal of this thread is stupid...reparations for "blacks"...if you went to the most southern white town that was destroyed by a national disaster you don't think there would be looting/killing/chaos?

same thing would happen in arab countries (as seen in iraq since the chaos bush started) or any other country where chaos arises...to say it is just black people is plain ignorance.. :rolleyes:
 
justyxxxx said:
Hmm . . . some old, mostly poor, some no car . . . how many times must you be hit over the head with these facts? And what plan was given to them to survive once they left? And "they" wasn't the majority - you continue to bring up "they" when "they" was a minority. The majority were trying to survive, but your racist roots continue to allow you to expand what a minority of people were doing to include an entire race (ie - everyone stayed around to loot).

chef-limp-bone-lil-nerd-white-boy, you wrongly worded this post. And thank you for the couple of "fuck you"'s - they turned me on. Please call me Bitch and Cunt too . . . PLEASE.
Hey Homo, are you pissed off becuase your favorite cross dressers were washed away down Bourban Street?
I seen this shit first hand brhomo, and from experience, this was on a lot of their minds before the storm hit. You're in denial....About the Looting....
:rainbow:
 
chefbone said:
Hey Homo, are you pissed off becuase your favorite cross dressers were washed away down Bourban Street?
I seen this shit first hand brhomo, and from experience, this was on a lot of their minds before the storm hit. You're in denial....About the Looting....
:rainbow:

Ok - keep believing that - lil-limp-chef-bone. And you continue your racism too . . . you seem to be quite good at that even without realizing it. A few interviews doesn't equal the majority- you dumb shit - otherwise you'd make the white population look like a bunch of fools.
 
justyxxxx said:
Ok - keep believing that - lil-limp-chef-bone. And you continue your racism too . . . you seem to be quite good at that even without realizing it. A few interviews doesn't equal the majority- you dumb shit - otherwise you'd make the white population look like a bunch of fools.
How am I racist??? I don't get it. I'm realistic and if you can't handle that....go suck a cunt! :Chef: :tuc:
 
You must spread some Karma around before giving it to justyxxxx again.

:Perk:

don't even know this justy guy but everything he has said has been reasonable and right in MY opinion...so stop hating/disrespecting him for having valuable and reasonable points :rolleyes:
 
2ez said:
This is one of the saddest threads I have ever read since becoming a member of this board back in 1999. I am reading a lot of regurgitated BS and others claiming to know the cause and effect of the ills within the black community. A levee broke that caused the flooding in New Orleans. The response to the situation down there has been slow. People are dying. Is this what one should expect from a cilvilized country. What does 19 out of 42 blacks graduating from a high school have to do with the response time and/or the levee not being fixed ? Is this some kind of justification for the slow response ?

A friend out in Atlanta took in over 50 people from the New Orleans area. Residents (not "refugees" like the news are reporting) are going any and everywhere.

This is a very sad, sad time in our country. Wish you all would see this for what it is.

Looking forward to reading some of the post, the next time I see rioting after a NHL, MLB or NCAA championship.

some people like to have conversations and expand thier minds with critical thinking, right or wrong its part of the process of exchanging ideas and opinions and learning from that process.

although i do understand that some people dont like to do that.
 
Theres a difference I take responsibility for my actions...

So I am sorry that some relative of mine 200 years ago probably knew a slave
 
jacked clown said:
Theres a difference I take responsibility for my actions...

So I am sorry that some relative of mine 200 years ago probably knew a slave
Apology accepted. :Chef: :tuc:
 
chefbone said:
How am I racist??? I don't get it. I'm realistic and if you can't handle that....go suck a cunt! :Chef: :tuc:

You're realistic only within your own realm of what you think realism is. But in real life, you're a dumb ass - at least in this thread. And how are you racist? Oh, let's see, you start a thread that points at black people, then you make the claim that they're sticking around to solely to loot, and let's not fail to bring up the fact that you have some 19 yr old whitey named Hiatussin posting in your thread that says the main characteristic he sees in black people is the fact that they're black and according to him, black people have "this world is against us so fuck it mentality". Ok - no - you haven't created an environment of racism in this thread and you're not racist . . .

After all, you have an African-American Grandmother which means you're immediately disqualified from being a racist . . . Oh - and since you're not racist, let's create a thread that says - WHITE PEOPLE STEAL FROM STORES DURING THE WORST NATURAL DISASTER IN YEARS . . . and then let's generalize that most of them are sticking around just to loot.

You are clearly on your way to winning a Nobel Prize.
 
justyxxxx said:
You're realistic only within your own realm of what you think realism is. But in real life, you're a dumb ass - at least in this thread. And how are you racist? Oh, let's see, you start a thread that points at black people, then you make the claim that they're sticking around to solely to loot, and let's not fail to bring up the fact that you have some 19 yr old whitey named Hiatussin posting in your thread that says the main characteristic he sees in black people is the fact that they're black and according to him, black people have "this world is against us so fuck it mentality". Ok - no - you haven't created an environment of racism in this thread and you're not racist . . .

After all, you have an African-American Grandmother which means you're immediately disqualified from being a racist . . . Oh - and since you're not racist, let's create a thread that says - WHITE PEOPLE STEAL FROM STORES DURING THE WORST NATURAL DISASTER IN YEARS . . . and then let's generalize that most of them are sticking around just to loot.

You are clearly on your way to winning a Nobel Prize.
Slow your role Kanye. I call it as I see it. :worried:
 
justyxxxx said:
You're realistic only within your own realm of what you think realism is. But in real life, you're a dumb ass - at least in this thread. And how are you racist? Oh, let's see, you start a thread that points at black people, then you make the claim that they're sticking around to solely to loot, and let's not fail to bring up the fact that you have some 19 yr old whitey named Hiatussin posting in your thread that says the main characteristic he sees in black people is the fact that they're black and according to him, black people have "this world is against us so fuck it mentality". Ok - no - you haven't created an environment of racism in this thread and you're not racist . . .

After all, you have an African-American Grandmother which means you're immediately disqualified from being a racist . . . Oh - and since you're not racist, let's create a thread that says - WHITE PEOPLE STEAL FROM STORES DURING THE WORST NATURAL DISASTER IN YEARS . . . and then let's generalize that most of them are sticking around just to loot.

You are clearly on your way to winning a Nobel Prize.

your one stupid fuck, shut the fuck up and get the fuck off the fucking thread.

you fucking moron.

if that is your best explanation of why he is a rascist, you have got to be one dumb fucking idiot.

if you cant do better than that then just stay the fuck out of the arguement.
 
spongebob said:
your one stupid fuck, shut the fuck up and get the fuck off the fucking thread.

you fucking moron.

if that is your best explanation of why he is a rascist, you have got to be one dumb fucking idiot.

if you cant do better than that then just stay the fuck out of the arguement.
You're a good bro, bro!!! :Chef: :tuc:
 
chefbone said:
You're a good bro, bro!!! :Chef: :tuc:

his post didnt have one fucking ounce of substance to it. i think like others here he just loves throwing the word around. at least if your gonna say it back it up with a solid post. that post was shitty!
 
justyxxxx said:
You're realistic only within your own realm of what you think realism is. But in real life, you're a dumb ass - at least in this thread. And how are you racist? Oh, let's see, you start a thread that points at black people, then you make the claim that they're sticking around to solely to loot, and let's not fail to bring up the fact that you have some 19 yr old whitey named Hiatussin posting in your thread that says the main characteristic he sees in black people is the fact that they're black and according to him, black people have "this world is against us so fuck it mentality". Ok - no - you haven't created an environment of racism in this thread and you're not racist . . .

After all, you have an African-American Grandmother which means you're immediately disqualified from being a racist . . . Oh - and since you're not racist, let's create a thread that says - WHITE PEOPLE STEAL FROM STORES DURING THE WORST NATURAL DISASTER IN YEARS . . . and then let's generalize that most of them are sticking around just to loot.

You are clearly on your way to winning a Nobel Prize.
I have never bin one for long post and big words so I will just say this.
"choke your self"
 
spongebob said:
your one stupid fuck, shut the fuck up and get the fuck off the fucking thread.

you fucking moron.

if that is your best explanation of why he is a rascist, you have got to be one dumb fucking idiot.

if you cant do better than that then just stay the fuck out of the arguement.

ha ha ha - funny how you little white dumb asses don't see the racism of this thread - I made my point very clear - it's you that needs to soak it up - spongebob.

Clearly, with all the uses of the word "fuck" - I hit a hostile nerve. Yeah, I tend to do that when the truth has been spoken . . . I'm waiting for your explanation as to why this thread isn't racist.
 
needtogetas said:
I have never bin one for long post and big words so I will just say this.
"choke your self"

You're still dumber than you've ever been NEEDTOGETGASSED - perhaps completing a full paragraph is beyond your mental capabilities.
 
spongebob said:
his post didnt have one fucking ounce of substance to it. i think like others here he just loves throwing the word around. at least if your gonna say it back it up with a solid post. that post was shitty!

SHITTY HUH? Yes, your post is a true example of an intelligent response. Let's see, I remember this - FUCK . . . FUCK . . . FUCK . . . can't you do better than that spongeypoo?

Also - spongey - aren't you a devout Catholic? Hmmm - with all your uses of the word FUCK I'm wondering if you've not fallen from grace . . . or perhaps you're too stupid to see that too . . .
 
justyxxxx said:
You are stepping up to the plate to open up your BIG ASS MOUTH and talk about blacks stealing anything they could find? Those people were hungry because our government failed them. If some people needed to steal for food/drinks from these local shops, then in this condition, I feel that it was justified. The percentage of gun bearing, people stealing just anything, etc was minimum compared to the number of hungry, hot, thirsty people just trying to get by. Many were poor, old, carless, and/or money-less people with few options except GET OUT OF NEW ORLEANS. And then go where when YOU HAVE NO MONEY? Wake up - little white nerd boy.

No, you're not racist . . . and Hitler loved Jews too.
you don't get THAT hungry in a day or two
and by and large(no pun intended)
most of those "poor" people need a diet
 
justyxxxx said:
You're still dumber than you've ever been NEEDTOGETGASSED - perhaps completing a full paragraph is beyond your mental capabilities.
THANKS BUT IT SEEMS WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY DONT MEAN SHIT AROUND HERE.I LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU CALL ME DUMB.IT JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER EVRY TIME I HERE IT.IT SHOWS JUST HOW STOPID AND NIEVE YOU ARE TO THINK THAT SPELLING AND GRAMMER IS THE ONLY WAY TO MUSHER INTELLAGENCE.GET A FUCKEN CLUE YOU ARE THE DUMB ONE.YOUR BRAIN CAN ONLY SEE THINGS ONE WAY.YOU SEE SOMETHING AT FIRST GLANCE AND CALL IT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS WITHOUT EVEN THINKING ABOUT IT.ALOTE OF THINGS IN LIFE ARNT ALLWAYS WHAT THEY SEEM BUT I DONT THINK YOURE SMALL MIND CAN COMPREHEND THAT.
 
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