Volume training. Super sets & drops to failure....

[Guinness5.0]

Seems like WAY TOO MUCH. If I read that correctly, you're gonna do 14 sets to failure, then do either a drop set or a superset after each and every one. Dude that's just crazy.

 

[patsfan1379]

Seems like WAY TOO MUCH. If I read that correctly, you're gonna do 14 sets to failure, then do either a drop set or a superset after each and every one. Dude that's just crazy.

nah, we'll see how it goes. if it dont work, it dont work.

 

[needtogetaas]

bump^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[needtogetaas]

Seems like WAY TOO MUCH. If I read that correctly, you're gonna do 14 sets to failure, then do either a drop set or a superset after each and every one. Dude that's just crazy.

explane why you gave me red again.you bitch.

 

[Silvertide]

I think you'll be fine, I just don't think the gains will be optimal. Even if you're doing 14 sets to failure, the workload for a typical 5x5 Wednesday workout would be significantly greater, considering there are 20 worksets for very heavy compound exercises. Granted, they aren't take to failure, but nonetheless are probably more taxing. I say go for it, I just doubt you will see any significant gains from a program like that.

 

[Tom Treutlein]

What a waste of energy. There's no point to doing flys and cable movements. Stick to heavy flat and incline presses. Also, going to failure does nothing but drain precious energy, and hinder the CNS. It will delay recovery a great deal, especially doing it as much as you are.

I thought people were getting smarter than this. Apparently not.

 

[Madcow2]

It's probably worth reminding people that there are several 5x5 workouts. I'd guess the original poster (in post #5) is refering Needsizes' and some people are thinking he's refering to the Bill Starr periodized 5x5.

 

[needtogetaas]

bump..................................

 

[combat_action]

What a waste of energy. There's no point to doing flys and cable movements. Stick to heavy flat and incline presses. Also, going to failure does nothing but drain precious energy, and hinder the CNS. It will delay recovery a great deal, especially doing it as much as you are.

I thought people were getting smarter than this. Apparently not.

I'm on board with Tom....Waste of time and precious recovery doing shit like cables, pushups, flyes. Heavy weight builds muscle.

 

[patsfan1379]

What a waste of energy. There's no point to doing flys and cable movements. Stick to heavy flat and incline presses. Also, going to failure does nothing but drain precious energy, and hinder the CNS. It will delay recovery a great deal, especially doing it as much as you are.

I thought people were getting smarter than this. Apparently not.

im not trying to build powerlifter muscles, or fat man muscles.

the cables and flys are for sculpting movement and stretches.

the key to my routine is contraction etc.

if i dont get 8 reps on every set, so be it. the key is to fail under max weight which kills one type of fiber, then burn out with a lighter weight which kills the other fibers.

also, kill the snide comments at the end, your fucking with the wrong person.

lets all get along here.