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Usp labs ( pink magic).

Starting my 3rd week of pink magic from USP... noticing great results in strength, endurance, and vascularity, BUT also some serious gyno starting to develop... There arent supposed to be any sides to PM... BUT LIKE I SAID ^^^^^... anyone else on this stuff and have any input regarding my situation?? lol. Unfortunately, the other results are SO GOOD that i dont want to stop taking it! Thoughts guys?
 
Thats interesting considering USP prides themselves on being all natty with there supps and non hormonal.
 
I was at a florida mall a couple days ago and saw this Pink Magic but I was not sure what it is. Can somebody tell me what's in it or what it is supposed to do..I am always interested in new products..
 
the hype is due to one of there ingredients being in a study showing to do nothing.
 
you spamming mother fuckers. I can see the link back to this thread comming from your reps board you spamming pricks. So guess what you are all banned and now I am going on a head hunt for usp lab reps all week. You guys want to send your shitty spam into this site and think you can get away with it??? Not on my fucking watch!!!! You want to be here???? go make a supplement thats worth a damn, and then support the members of this forum by paying to be a sponsor.

Dont slap all the members here in the face and try and back door the site. Sending your team of forum spammers is not a way to gain the members trust around here. Its a way to make your selfs look like jerks with crap to sell. More to follow
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

I was at a florida mall a couple days ago and saw this Pink Magic but I was not sure what it is. Can somebody tell me what's in it or what it is supposed to do..I am always interested in new products..

its main ingredient is Massularia Acuminata (Massularia Accuminate = alternate spelling)
and let me tell you a few things about it. The first is that fadoga kicks its ass and 2 is that I got a new "never used yet" compound coming out soon that is better then both of them.. So dont waste a dime of your money on this crap.

I know because I own a sup company you would think my thoughts are a little biased but everyone knows that is far from the truth. If this stuff was any good I would be using it.

And dont even try and tell me I dont use it because I cant get it. Because there is nothing that I cant get. If they can get it I bet I can get more of it and a more pure form lololol...
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

the hype is due to one of there ingredients being in a study showing to do nothing.

O you mean this junk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Back in 2008, a study was conducted on Massularia Acuminata (Massularia Accuminate = alternate spelling) and its effects on testosterone. The abstract was published online, and was reposted on several websites. In late 2009 and early 2010, I looked into it because Daniel Clough from At Large Nutrition was planning to add a test booster to his product line, and he had contacted me (long story) as the potential formulator for the product.

I looked into dozens of testosterone boosting herbs, and this one was on my list. Anyway, I purchased the full study and read it…and quickly decided that this herb had exactly ZERO potential to be used in a testosterone boosting nutritional supplement. It simply doesn’t raise testosterone very high, and even then, it can’t do it without taking impossibly high megadoses.

But, since most supplement buyers don’t purchase and read studies full studies (*when the abstract is available for free), the door was (and is) left open for it to be used in a nutritional supplement. I’ll tell you why it’s not going to work in a second, but first, I want you to check out the abstract:

J Ethnopharmacol. 2008 Aug 13;118(3):508-13. Epub 2008 May 28. Androgenic potentials of aqueous extract of Massularia acuminata (G. Don) Bullock ex Hoyl. stem in male Wistar rats. Yakubu MT, Akanji MA, Oladiji AT, Adesokan AA. Medicinal Plants Research Laboratory, Department of Biochemistry, University of Ilorin, PMB 1515, Ilorin, Nigeria. [email protected] Abstract The use of medicinal plants in the management of several ailments is gaining popularity nowadays. Massularia acuminata, one of such plants is commonly used as chewing sticks due to its antimicrobial activity and the aqueous extract of its stem as an aphrodisiac. Aphrodisiac activity in some plants may be due to androgen increasing property of its phytochemicals. AIM OF THE STUDY: This study therefore sought to assess the androgenic potentials of aqueous extract of Massularia acuminata stem in male rats for 21 days. MATERIALS AND METHODS: Male rats weighing between 220 and 260 g were completely randomized into four groups: A, B, C and D. Group A, the control received orally 1 ml of distilled water (the vehicle) while groups B, C and D were orally administered with 1 ml each corresponding to 250, 500 and 1000 mg/kg body weight of the plant extract, respectively for 21 days. Rats were sacrificed 24h after 1, 7 and 21 days. RESULTS: Compared with the control, extract administration at all the doses produced significant increase (P<0.05) in testes-body weight ratio, testicular protein, glycogen, sialic acid, cholesterol, testosterone, luteinizing and follicle stimulating hormone concentrations throughout the period of administration. Testicular gamma glutamyl transferase activities were decreased significantly (P<0.05) after the first dose and was sustained throughout the experimental period. CONCLUSION: The available evidence in this study suggests that aqueous extract of Massularia acuminata stem has androgenic potential which may stimulate male sexual maturation and enhance normal testicular function. PMID: 18602232 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

MAUSPSo, at first blush, it looks vaguely promising, right? But check out the dose required…the lowest dose examined in the study was 250mgs/kg! On a kg/kg (simple comparative bodyweight) basis you’ll need about 25 grams of the stuff per day for a 100kg (220lb) bodybuilder, going off the absolute lowest dose. The highest dose would require 100g/day based on a 220lb (100kg)human bodyweight. However, this is based on human weight versus rodent weight. Now, if we convert the rodent dose to the human dose equivalent using the accepted body surface area formula, we find that we need just over 4 grams per day. And bsathat’s at the lowest dose examined – we’d double that dose for the 500mgs/kg (over 8 grams per day) and double it again for the 1,000mgs/kg dose (over 16 grams per day). Currently, only two companies (that I know of) are using this herb in a product, and the dose per serving is (at best) on par with (but likely lower than) even the lowest dose examined in the study (250mgs/kg), translated to anything resembling a human equivalent. The daily suggested dose (all of the daily servings added up) contained in the proprietary blends currently being sold on the market still isn’t likely to be equivalent to the lowest dose in the study.

In fact, even if the 250mg/kg equivalent dose were being used (and it isn’t), the testosterone boost provided would be 12%. But since nowhere near this dose is being used…have I made my point yet? The full study is much more interesting, because when we crunch the numbers, we find out that the rodents were being given an ungodly amount of this stuff, and barely getting any kind of decent test boost! T-Bag So how much of a boost in serum testosterone did the herb provide? Well, we don’t know, because the study doesn’t tell us. Wait…what? Yeah, you read that correctly, the study doesn’t actually look at serum testosterone levels. So what about free testosterone levels? Well, the study doesn’t look at that either. The study examines intratesticular testosterone, LH, and a bunch of other stuff (testicular glycogen, testicular sailic acid concentration, etc…) but provides no hard data on how much of a real test boost the herb provided. matest malh So, as you can see, even if you were chocking down thousands of milligrams per day of the stuff, the rodent data suggests that after 21 days, your LH will get around a 60% boost (rodents in the control group were 1.27 and the 1,000mg/kg group ended up at 2.14) , and your testicular testosterone will go up about the same, roughly 60% (the rodents in the control group were 3.37, while rodents in the 1,000mg/kg group were 5.38 ng/dl). But of course, none of the companies using this ingredient are using anywhere near an effective dose. This is why I abandoned the idea of using this stuff in a product formulation, and focused my research and development elsewhere.

But as the saying goes, there’s a sucker born every minute, and no shortage of supplement manufacturers looking to scam them.

LOLOLOL I pulled this of Ar's web site. Like it or not that settles that!!!!!!!!!!!! This along with other studies out there pretty much seal the deal that this stuff is junk...


Also the fact that this thread has 7 link in's from usp sending there reps into it just shows how badly they want to push this shit too..

If it was just some reg member talking about it I would be fine. Hoever its my job to stop this kind of spam crap on ef and its a jod I happen to be pretty good at lololol..
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

lol@usp labs

Twink Magic hahahahaa
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

Its filled with pixie dust bro. Pink magic and the new sup purple homo combined together will make you fly like Peter pan!!!

as long as you think "happy thoughts" though right?? LOL
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

Its filled with pixie dust bro. Pink magic and the new sup purple homo combined together will make you fly like Peter pan!!!

:heart: I love you man. I missed the way you beat around the bush about everything while I was away.:p
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

I was actually looking into that first ingredient a while ago. I tried it. It did nothing.

Anthony Roberts, love him or hate him, did a more extensive study. This was his conclusion. Massularia Acuminata & Testosterone | Anthony Roberts

The second ingredient is the fancy name for Lotus flower -- which is a phyto estrogen.

Ramnus is an anti oxidant. It has some health benefits, but raising testosterone isn't one of them.

So basically, this is another example of a company sticking together a bunch of shit no one has heard of and hoping to get people to shell out some money out of curiousity. When everyone catches one, the company folds and starts another scam.

Fuck these shistains. Go with the people who've not only proven themselves but who are here day in and day out backing up what they sell.
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

:heart: I love you man. I missed the way you beat around the bush about everything while I was away.:p

I try my best bro. How you been anyway? I see you recovered finely right? Ready to kill some shit now I bet.

See if you had some pink magic, some purple wrath, and black powder all combined man. You would have recovered 6 months ago and added 100lb to your bench press.

Shit Man I dont know all products and I dont knock anything just because. Lots of bad ass products out there but this shit ain't one of them.

You want something thats new and has some promise? ALPHA-T2 the new stuff orbit has looks pretty damn good. My secretary shannon says its good stuff. She combines it with Eviscerate and need2slin ... Not test boosting sups I know. I am just rattling off shit thats good. :heart::heart:
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

you spamming mother fuckers. I can see the link back to this thread comming from your reps board you spamming pricks. So guess what you are all banned and now I am going on a head hunt for usp lab reps all week. You guys want to send your shitty spam into this site and think you can get away with it??? Not on my fucking watch!!!! You want to be here???? go make a supplement thats worth a damn, and then support the members of this forum by paying to be a sponsor.

Dont slap all the members here in the face and try and back door the site. Sending your team of forum spammers is not a way to gain the members trust around here. Its a way to make your selfs look like jerks with crap to sell. More to follow

this provided the lulz
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

I've tried many products over the decade plus I've been in this sport. I gave this garbage a try and it sucked!!! Completely not worth the money. I went to try and get a refund but they pretty much laughed at me. I am sticking with NeedToBuildMuscle products only! When I spend money on supps I don't want to just give money to support hype or garbage claims and advertising. Just funding worthless claims to give people more worthless info. No thanks!


I have yet to try one NTBM product that has not worked for me. It's the best supplements around hands down! You will not be disappointed with NTBM products.
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

lol@usp labs

Twink Magic hahahahaa

I was gonna say...Pink Magic???? WTF? Why would they market a product with such a gay name to men? Unless their target market was gay men? :rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow:
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

its main ingredient is Massularia Acuminata (Massularia Accuminate = alternate spelling)
and let me tell you a few things about it. The first is that fadoga kicks its ass and 2 is that I got a new "never used yet" compound coming out soon that is better then both of them.. So dont waste a dime of your money on this crap.

I know because I own a sup company you would think my thoughts are a little biased but everyone knows that is far from the truth. If this stuff was any good I would be using it.

And dont even try and tell me I dont use it because I cant get it. Because there is nothing that I cant get. If they can get it I bet I can get more of it and a more pure form lololol...
Can't wait for the new sup mang!
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

What a stoopid name, lol
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

I think it would be more appropriately named "PUCE JUICE" for its color, taste, and results. For the hell of it I contacted the company and said I was not happy with the product and asked how to go about getting a refund. I got the normal run around that all companies give you " How long ago did you order?, how much of the product did you use? and all kinds of crap" Basically it was a big run around only to find out I was not getting a refund no matter what anyway.

I would love to call the company right now and give them a peace of my mind over the phone but its Saturday and as we all know no company out there answers the phone on Saturdays. In fact if I want to get anyone on the phone at all, I have to take my personal time on a lunch break to call them because they are only open and taking calls from 9am to 5pm. What if I work 9 am to 5pm and I want to call customer service after I get home and take a shower. What if I don't want to waste my perfectly good lunch break on the phone with a Automated machine screaming for 20-30 mins till I finely get a real person on the phone?
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

Pritty shady thing to do.
I love N2KTS anyway, dont need any pink power lol
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

I've tried many products over the decade plus I've been in this sport. I gave this garbage a try and it sucked!!! Completely not worth the money. I went to try and get a refund but they pretty much laughed at me. I am sticking with NeedToBuildMuscle products only! When I spend money on supps I don't want to just give money to support hype or garbage claims and advertising. Just funding worthless claims to give people more worthless info. No thanks!


I have yet to try one NTBM product that has not worked for me. It's the best supplements around hands down! You will not be disappointed with NTBM products.

You honestly thought that the company that makes this "pink magic" actually gave a damn about you or your refund?

They got your money dude, they are through with you.

Just sucks that you didn't know about their worthless products before going to them, they suck!!
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

I think it would be more appropriately named "PUCE JUICE" for its color, taste, and results. For the hell of it I contacted the company and said I was not happy with the product and asked how to go about getting a refund. I got the normal run around that all companies give you " How long ago did you order?, how much of the product did you use? and all kinds of crap" Basically it was a big run around only to find out I was not getting a refund no matter what anyway.

I would love to call the company right now and give them a peace of my mind over the phone but its Saturday and as we all know no company out there answers the phone on Saturdays. In fact if I want to get anyone on the phone at all, I have to take my personal time on a lunch break to call them because they are only open and taking calls from 9am to 5pm. What if I work 9 am to 5pm and I want to call customer service after I get home and take a shower. What if I don't want to waste my perfectly good lunch break on the phone with a Automated machine screaming for 20-30 mins till I finely get a real person on the phone?

Hey bro sorry to hear that man. I can understand your frustration with Automated phone systems and 9-5 customer service lines lol.. And even all of them not being open to help you on the week ends ether.

I think anyone in the service industry be is supplements or something else should realize people need/want to be able to contact you on off hours. Most of the banks in America have come to understand this now and are now open later during the week, and open on both Saterday and Sunday.

The problem begins when companies think you and your money is there to make them rich. Most places today have lost the values of old. My grandfather just passed so I was cooking for the get together we had at my parents house for him this Saterday..

It was my grandfathers Funeral and I was working my butt off cooking for over 50 people. During this time I had my Father take over cooking for me 6 times so that I could take Customer phone calls. Later one sitting with my father we spoke about how things used to be. How when he was growing up every business had a saying " The customer is always right" and every business you walked into greeted you with a smile and a "how can I help you" . If you had a problem they fixed it and they were happy to do so.

My old man saw me taking the calls, and heard me talking with my customers. His way of saying "your doing a good thing" was to tell me how things used to be and how they should be. He rambled on and on about the attitudes he gets from kids working the counter at home depo. Or how he walked into a store the other day and the girl working the counter didn't even look up from her magazine and acknowledge the fact that he was there.

He went on to talk about the dreadful Automated phone systems that nearly every company has now. How he called one place the other day and the kid on the phone couldn't answer his questions and when he asked for the manager the kid said " I am the manager" lolol...

I knew he was just complaining like old men do, and at the same time giving me a pat on the back. But the sad fact is he is soooo right. People have lost site of what being in a service industry is all about. Or maybe the companies in the supplement industry think they are above it, or who the fuck knows but they overlook this so much..

I own a company that sells supplements. OK big deal!!! What really matters down to the heart of it is am in the service business. My job is to serve my friends,family, and my customers. I should be thankful and appreciative that you choice to do business with me and not some one else. You pay me and you pay my bills not the other way around.


These days it seems companies only care about the product and selling that product. They care about getting you to put money into there hand for what ever product it is they sell. They think that after that there job is done!!!!!!!!!!! You gave them money because you bought into there product and after the sale is made, money and product is exchanged the job is done!

I don't know when or why things changed. But IMO that is not how it should be. IMO I sell a lot more then just a product. I sell my service with that product. Even if I am not making a sale I should treat you good anyway. I should help any and all people sale or no sale because that is just the way you do things.

I should be there for past,present, and future customers and I should be there for them on there time. I guess because so many are so wrapped up in just getting products to fly off the shelf they forget whats really important. That being the people who are on the receiving end of all that I do.

Some times I wish I never even started selling products. Not because I don't like doing it, or I feel like I am doing something wrong. Not because I don't have great products, or because I think selling my products hurts others in anyway. No some times I just think to my self all I really want is to make sure people are getting what they want,need, and reaching there goals. The parts of my job and my business that I love has nothing to do with the exchange of money for product. That is the part that gives me the time and ability to do more of what I do love though..

Knowing I helped some one else in some kind of a way. Knowing I made a difference on this forum, on other forums, and in some ones life for the better. I like the 2 hour phone conversations I get to have with a random person I have never met. Talking to them and helping them learn and understand. I get a good feeling when I spend a hour or two on the phone with Jake ( with formastane). A customer who called me 6 months ago with a problem. I spoke to him the night he called and have spoken with every at least twice a month ever since then. Helping him with a problem and working him through it step by step.

His problem has been fixed. When he called me he truly thought there was no hope for his gyno ( that he had since he was a teen age kid). He even had a appointment set for surgery the month he had called me too. Because he had tried everything out there that everyone else was telling him to use. Even some Ideas he came up with on his own..

6 months later jake is now completely gyno free, 20-20lb of muscle heaver and feels better then ever. He called me the other day to tell me how he was all over the place this summer with his shirt off. Something he hadn't done in years!!

Jake thinks he got the better half the the deal but truthfully he has no Idea how much I got out of this. I am the one who is lucky because I got to be a part of something that this man will never forget. He no longer has a problem and I bet that is an amazing feeling for him after all these years. I get to be a part of things like this ALL THE TIME!! because of what I do.
During the 6 months I spoke with Jake He bought many things I told him he needed to get. Non of them were products I sold and only one thing was a product that orbitnutriton.com sold which was a bottle of formastane I said he should get well he waited for some of the other products he needed to get from other companies he was working with.. Jake offered many times to pay me money for my advice and I turned him down.


Look at the guy in my sig!! had a stomach problem and could not gain weight. Now because of something i did he is almost 50lb bigger. I get emails all the time with before and afters from people who have changed there lives. People make threads to me all over the net thanking me for things I helped them with.

That is why I do what I do. That is why I make the products I make and sell the products I sell. But its also why when you pm me I will talk with you for days about what ever you need help with. Its why my customer service is 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. But my number is open for anyone to call and ask for help even if you are not calling about anything I sell. Because I dont care if you call me for help and do not buy something I just dont care and anyone who has called me and spoke to me for a hour or two knows this.

More then a few times I have spoken to some one for a hour or two and they ask question after question. Then they start feeling guilty lol.. They say things like man I am really sorry for taking up so much of your time but I just have so many questions to ask you... I always reply " go ahead ask away, time is all I have friend" . Some times I do wish I did not sell sups because I don't ever want anyone to think that is why I do all that I do. But its because I do that I am able to say "ask away my friend I have plenty of time for you" . Its this that I hope people see and not the other way around.



HAHHAHAAAA as you can see guys I have a passion for what I do. I get talking about it and I cant stop. I couldn't be more happy knowing that i have finely found my true passion in life and I am a very blessed man that I get to be doing what I love for a living. Before doing this I was in the Army as a chef, and before that i was a chef as a civilian. I have always always enjoyed serving others and its what I have always done. I find putting a smile on another persons face, bringing joy to another person rewording for me. Anyway I think I need to stop rambling and get back to doing what I love :heart:


To end this though I will say I have not used pink magic but on paper it does not look all that great. This is going off of things I have seen,read, and from speaking with other leaders in the industry.. USP labs is not that bad of a company though. I mean there jack3d (original formula not one that is sold now) was pretty bomb for a lot of people. But This product looks to me like its not going to do all that its claimed to do..

They even threw in the clam that it boost other N.O and pre work out sups. Come on guys think real damn hard and tell me why you think they through that clam in there???? You know why they did that, you know you do!!!! Piggy back sales man... Because they do have a popular product in jack3d ( I liked the older version) and they want to cash in on piggy back sales. I dont blame them for that but lets be honest.

That is all :heart:
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

What a stoopid name, lol

Right?!!? Was just saying how crazy stupid the name is..No badass body builder wants to walk around and tell people about "pink Magic"..Sounds like a girly drink if anything!
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

I was gonna say...Pink Magic???? WTF? Why would they market a product with such a gay name to men? Unless their target market was gay men? :rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow::rainbow:

LOL! The name is pretty gay.
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

Hey bro sorry to hear that man. I can understand your frustration with Automated phone systems and 9-5 customer service lines lol.. And even all of them not being open to help you on the week ends ether.

I think anyone in the service industry be is supplements or something else should realize people need/want to be able to contact you on off hours. Most of the banks in America have come to understand this now and are now open later during the week, and open on both Saterday and Sunday.

The problem begins when companies think you and your money is there to make them rich. Most places today have lost the values of old. My grandfather just passed so I was cooking for the get together we had at my parents house for him this Saterday..

It was my grandfathers Funeral and I was working my butt off cooking for over 50 people. During this time I had my Father take over cooking for me 6 times so that I could take Customer phone calls. Later one sitting with my father we spoke about how things used to be. How when he was growing up every business had a saying " The customer is always right" and every business you walked into greeted you with a smile and a "how can I help you" . If you had a problem they fixed it and they were happy to do so.

My old man saw me taking the calls, and heard me talking with my customers. His way of saying "your doing a good thing" was to tell me how things used to be and how they should be. He rambled on and on about the attitudes he gets from kids working the counter at home depo. Or how he walked into a store the other day and the girl working the counter didn't even look up from her magazine and acknowledge the fact that he was there.

He went on to talk about the dreadful Automated phone systems that nearly every company has now. How he called one place the other day and the kid on the phone couldn't answer his questions and when he asked for the manager the kid said " I am the manager" lolol...

I knew he was just complaining like old men do, and at the same time giving me a pat on the back. But the sad fact is he is soooo right. People have lost site of what being in a service industry is all about. Or maybe the companies in the supplement industry think they are above it, or who the fuck knows but they overlook this so much..

I own a company that sells supplements. OK big deal!!! What really matters down to the heart of it is am in the service business. My job is to serve my friends,family, and my customers. I should be thankful and appreciative that you choice to do business with me and not some one else. You pay me and you pay my bills not the other way around.


These days it seems companies only care about the product and selling that product. They care about getting you to put money into there hand for what ever product it is they sell. They think that after that there job is done!!!!!!!!!!! You gave them money because you bought into there product and after the sale is made, money and product is exchanged the job is done!

I don't know when or why things changed. But IMO that is not how it should be. IMO I sell a lot more then just a product. I sell my service with that product. Even if I am not making a sale I should treat you good anyway. I should help any and all people sale or no sale because that is just the way you do things.

I should be there for past,present, and future customers and I should be there for them on there time. I guess because so many are so wrapped up in just getting products to fly off the shelf they forget whats really important. That being the people who are on the receiving end of all that I do.

Some times I wish I never even started selling products. Not because I don't like doing it, or I feel like I am doing something wrong. Not because I don't have great products, or because I think selling my products hurts others in anyway. No some times I just think to my self all I really want is to make sure people are getting what they want,need, and reaching there goals. The parts of my job and my business that I love has nothing to do with the exchange of money for product. That is the part that gives me the time and ability to do more of what I do love though..

Knowing I helped some one else in some kind of a way. Knowing I made a difference on this forum, on other forums, and in some ones life for the better. I like the 2 hour phone conversations I get to have with a random person I have never met. Talking to them and helping them learn and understand. I get a good feeling when I spend a hour or two on the phone with Jake ( with formastane). A customer who called me 6 months ago with a problem. I spoke to him the night he called and have spoken with every at least twice a month ever since then. Helping him with a problem and working him through it step by step.

His problem has been fixed. When he called me he truly thought there was no hope for his gyno ( that he had since he was a teen age kid). He even had a appointment set for surgery the month he had called me too. Because he had tried everything out there that everyone else was telling him to use. Even some Ideas he came up with on his own..

6 months later jake is now completely gyno free, 20-20lb of muscle heaver and feels better then ever. He called me the other day to tell me how he was all over the place this summer with his shirt off. Something he hadn't done in years!!

Jake thinks he got the better half the the deal but truthfully he has no Idea how much I got out of this. I am the one who is lucky because I got to be a part of something that this man will never forget. He no longer has a problem and I bet that is an amazing feeling for him after all these years. I get to be a part of things like this ALL THE TIME!! because of what I do.
During the 6 months I spoke with Jake He bought many things I told him he needed to get. Non of them were products I sold and only one thing was a product that orbitnutriton.com sold which was a bottle of formastane I said he should get well he waited for some of the other products he needed to get from other companies he was working with.. Jake offered many times to pay me money for my advice and I turned him down.


Look at the guy in my sig!! had a stomach problem and could not gain weight. Now because of something i did he is almost 50lb bigger. I get emails all the time with before and afters from people who have changed there lives. People make threads to me all over the net thanking me for things I helped them with.

That is why I do what I do. That is why I make the products I make and sell the products I sell. But its also why when you pm me I will talk with you for days about what ever you need help with. Its why my customer service is 24 hours a day and 7 days a week. But my number is open for anyone to call and ask for help even if you are not calling about anything I sell. Because I dont care if you call me for help and do not buy something I just dont care and anyone who has called me and spoke to me for a hour or two knows this.

More then a few times I have spoken to some one for a hour or two and they ask question after question. Then they start feeling guilty lol.. They say things like man I am really sorry for taking up so much of your time but I just have so many questions to ask you... I always reply " go ahead ask away, time is all I have friend" . Some times I do wish I did not sell sups because I don't ever want anyone to think that is why I do all that I do. But its because I do that I am able to say "ask away my friend I have plenty of time for you" . Its this that I hope people see and not the other way around.



HAHHAHAAAA as you can see guys I have a passion for what I do. I get talking about it and I cant stop. I couldn't be more happy knowing that i have finely found my true passion in life and I am a very blessed man that I get to be doing what I love for a living. Before doing this I was in the Army as a chef, and before that i was a chef as a civilian. I have always always enjoyed serving others and its what I have always done. I find putting a smile on another persons face, bringing joy to another person rewording for me. Anyway I think I need to stop rambling and get back to doing what I love :heart:


To end this though I will say I have not used pink magic but on paper it does not look all that great. This is going off of things I have seen,read, and from speaking with other leaders in the industry.. USP labs is not that bad of a company though. I mean there jack3d (original formula not one that is sold now) was pretty bomb for a lot of people. But This product looks to me like its not going to do all that its claimed to do..

They even threw in the clam that it boost other N.O and pre work out sups. Come on guys think real damn hard and tell me why you think they through that clam in there???? You know why they did that, you know you do!!!! Piggy back sales man... Because they do have a popular product in jack3d ( I liked the older version) and they want to cash in on piggy back sales. I dont blame them for that but lets be honest.

That is all :heart:

cliff notes?
 
Re: Usp labs has come to spam the elitefitness forums with worthless crap( pink magic

cliff notes?

I was telling everyone about that crazy night we went out to the clubs. And you shoved a 16oz bud in your ass and then shot it out across the bar and it hit orbit in the head... :heart::heart: Of course the stories much better when you tell it though.
 
I got up with one of my friends yesterday who bought this stuff and has been using it. Said its garbage. Hasn't gained shit except a hit to the wallet. Thats good enough for me. I won't be trying this Pink vagina stuff.
 
WTF is this shit "pink magic" ?? Shit sounds like a fantasy product that is supposed to give you super Tren strength but in reality is some marketed bullshit product that dos NOT work!!! I hate scammers and marketing frauds out to ripp people off. The USP faggotmuffin sounds like a "guinea pig" and has no clue what real products are.

HCGenerate, Unleashed, Bridge, Gear, BigBlast, Betterproteinbars, Old Beastdrol & Diesolbolan, etc. Those are the Real products that work. We have one of the best in the business- Needtobuildmuscle.com who has proven over and over his mission to be the "good guy " , one of the rarest forms of customer service that you do not see anymore.
OrbitNutrtion, one of our great sponsors who brings his game to the table also.
 
Be careful with Pink Magic if you are prone to gyno: J Pharm Pharmacol. 2010 May;62(5):658-62.
In-vitro and in-vivo evaluations of cytochrome P450 1A2 interactions with nuciferine.

Hu L, Xu W, Zhang X, Su J, Liu X, Li H, Zhang W.

Department of Natural Medicinal Chemistry, School of Pharmacy, Second Military Medical University, Shanghai, China.
Abstract

OBJECTIVES: The effects of nuciferine, a major active aporphine alkaloid from the leaves of Nelumbo nucifera Gaertn, on a cytochrome P450 1A2 (CYP1A2) probe substrate were investigated in vitro and in vivo. METHODS: Nuciferine and recombinant human CYP1A2 were incubated together to study the impact of nuciferine on CYP1A2 in vitro. Nuciferine was administered orally to Wistar rats at a dose of 20 mg/kg to further estimate the impact of nuciferine on CYP1A2 in vivo. A probe substrate, phenacetin, was used to index the activity of CYP1A2. KEY FINDINGS: The IC50 value for nuciferine was determined to be 2.12 mmol/l. When phenacetin was intravenously coadministered with nuciferine compared with phenacetin alone, the elimination rate constant and total body clearance of phenacetin were decreased by 24.0% (P < 0.01) and 43.0% (P < 0.05), respectively. The mean residence time, apparent elimination half-time and area under the plasma concentration-time curve were increased by 22% (P < 0.005), 26.9% (P < 0.02) and 74.6% (P < 0.05), respectively. Similarly, when phenacetin was coadministered orally with nuciferine, the apparent elimination half-time in the nuciferine pretreated group was increased by 16.7% (P < 0.05) and the elimination rate constant was decreased by 15.4% (P < 0.05). CONCLUSIONS: The results suggest that nuciferine inhibited CYP1A2 activity in vitro and caused changes in the pharmacokinetic parameters of phenacetin in vivo.

PMID: 20609070 [PubMed - in process]

This study abstract hows that inhibits one of the chromosome enzymes responsible for keep estrogen at bay, which means more ESTROGEN while maybe lowering testosterone. There also studies showing that this same ingredient is renal toxic and known to be ANTI-FERTILITY, yikes!
 
Be careful with Pink Magic if you are prone to gyno: J Pharm Pharmacol. 2010 May;62(5):658-62.
In-vitro and in-vivo evaluations of cytochrome P450 1A2 interactions with nuciferine.

Hu L, Xu W, Zhang X, Su J, Liu X, Li H, Zhang W.

Department of Natural Medicinal Chemistry, School of Pharmacy, Second Military Medical University, Shanghai, China.
Abstract

OBJECTIVES: The effects of nuciferine, a major active aporphine alkaloid from the leaves of Nelumbo nucifera Gaertn, on a cytochrome P450 1A2 (CYP1A2) probe substrate were investigated in vitro and in vivo. METHODS: Nuciferine and recombinant human CYP1A2 were incubated together to study the impact of nuciferine on CYP1A2 in vitro. Nuciferine was administered orally to Wistar rats at a dose of 20 mg/kg to further estimate the impact of nuciferine on CYP1A2 in vivo. A probe substrate, phenacetin, was used to index the activity of CYP1A2. KEY FINDINGS: The IC50 value for nuciferine was determined to be 2.12 mmol/l. When phenacetin was intravenously coadministered with nuciferine compared with phenacetin alone, the elimination rate constant and total body clearance of phenacetin were decreased by 24.0% (P < 0.01) and 43.0% (P < 0.05), respectively. The mean residence time, apparent elimination half-time and area under the plasma concentration-time curve were increased by 22% (P < 0.005), 26.9% (P < 0.02) and 74.6% (P < 0.05), respectively. Similarly, when phenacetin was coadministered orally with nuciferine, the apparent elimination half-time in the nuciferine pretreated group was increased by 16.7% (P < 0.05) and the elimination rate constant was decreased by 15.4% (P < 0.05). CONCLUSIONS: The results suggest that nuciferine inhibited CYP1A2 activity in vitro and caused changes in the pharmacokinetic parameters of phenacetin in vivo.

PMID: 20609070 [PubMed - in process]

This study abstract hows that inhibits one of the chromosome enzymes responsible for keep estrogen at bay, which means more ESTROGEN while maybe lowering testosterone. There also studies showing that this same ingredient is renal toxic and known to be ANTI-FERTILITY, yikes!
Which is exactly why I been saying its crap.

But this is why people are seeing size gains from it bro. Its not raising test levels but its raising estrogen levels more then anything else. This of course does have a bit of muscle building action but at a very bad price to pay!!! Forget that shit and use a product that raises test and works in other ways. You want to raise your estrogen levels? steal your girl friends birth control pills instead.. Hey what do you know My wifes birth control pills are pink too, no lie they really are lmao!!!
 
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