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Use higher doses of HCG at the end of your cycle and gain LBM!

nope. i have heard a few people mention it. personally i dont fancy trying it, you should have made sufficient gains from (eg) 12 weeks of test, the way i see hcg is it is best used at a low dose on cycle to prevent testicular atrophy and make recovery quicker and easier.

I would love to hear Eddy weigh in on this...I remember he had a few interesting HCG posts awhile back that gave reasons why both ways would be applicable.
 
I have done 5000iu shots, works like a dream, had been on for a year and needed to kick start things again. Did one weekly for 3 weeks. Also divided 5000iu into 30days and shot daily with an insulin needle during.
 
I might try it. hey needtoo I am sure this has been asked of you many times but would you rec running derma on cycle?
 
I may just do 5000ius once a month when I feel i need it. I deviate from outlines quite a bit. Nice guideline tool but after 15years of juicing I go by feel.

As far as PCT goes I would start the hcg the day after your last shot of sustanon. This will mean your hcg will be done when the sustanon clears. Then I would begin clomid or whatever protocol you choose, be it nolvadex, aromasin, vitamin e , or whatever.

Now if doing enanthate I would start the hcg after your 2nd to last shot of enanthate if shooting weekly, because enanthate clears in two weeks.

I would take 2500ius of hcg e5d. Reasoning is that you get a spike from the hcg at the 48th hour and 96th hour I believe. Not completely sure on that, it may be the 24th hour and the 72nd for all I know. I just know doing it this way means you get the most out of your hcg.

My choice would be to take nolva at 20mgs ed with the hcg and then switch to clomid for 3 weeks at 50mgs ed. I would also use tribulus and dhea or try that Unleashed product thats sold on this site as I think it contains those things. Havent tried the topical Dermacrine , which is dhea but I will be. Either way just something to add and it cant hurt

Then again, what do I know. My name aint Anthony Roberts.
 
For 2 lbs Personally id rather not cause LH desnsitization of the Leydig cells ---> which is what wil happen with that dose.
 
I remember this from back in the day. I think Needsize posted about it when he switched the that professional trainer. Wasn't Satch advocating HCG only cycle for a while? Either way good post as from what I remember guys were gaining a bunch of weight during PCT and recovering faster.
 
The fellas who are not experimenting with HCG are losing out. HCG coupled with an AI is magical.

I've been taking 500iu per week based on how I feel. I notice a spike in libido and fullness on the 3rd day after a shot. I feel great, my lifts are up and my loads are huge lol.

I have tried taking 2500iu in one shot and I didn't like the feeling of excessive estrogen. I felt bloated and moody. Guys who are sensitive to estrogen should start with 250iu once per week to see how they respond.

The ideal course of action is HMG though :)

75iu once per week with no E2 spike.
 
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