UPDATE to 1.5 years and Still Shudown

[Jenetic]

I'd like to know what you ran, for how long, and for how long you were OFF completely before a month ago, when you started all this. Also, what did you try for your PCT?

For everyone who is not aware of my dosages, I will do my best to recall the madness. Keep in mind, I was on for about a year. Probably a little longer. Also, once I discontinued that cycle, I have been clean ever since.

50-75 mgs DBOL ED
1250 mgs Sustanon
1000 mgs EQ

100 mgs Propionate ED
600 mgs EQ
75 mgs Trenbolone ED

100 mgs Propionate ED
500 mgs Primo per week
75 mgs Trenbolone EOD
60 mgs Anavar ED
25 mcg - 100 mcg T3 ED
100 mcg - 220 mcg T3 ED

50 mgs Anadrol ED
100 mgs Suspenstion ED
100 mgs Winstrol ED

1000 mgs Test per week
9 iu's GH ED
10 iu's Humulin R ED
10 iu's Humalog ED
50 mcg T3 ED

Then I slowly tapered off for about 1 month after with Propionate and GH. It was something like that. I can't completely recall at this point I may be leaving somethings out but I used Aromasin, Arimidex, Finasteride and other acilliaries at different points throughout the year.

The PCT that I attempted was:

5000 iu's HCG 3x per week for the first week
2500 iu's HCG 3x per week for the second week
1500 iu's HCG 3x per week for the third week
500 iu's HCG 3x per week for the fourth week
150 mgs Clomid ED for the fifth week
100 mgs Clomid ED for the sixth week
50 mgs Clomid ED for the seventh week
40 mgs ED from first week to the fourth week
20 mgs ED from fifth week to the seventh week

 

[Jenetic]

Oh yeah, do you know how your fertility has been affected by all this?

I don't know exactly. We haven't done a semen analysis yet. What I can tell you is that my sperm volume was low up till I started treatment with this doctor. Now the sperm volume has increased dramatically and is pretty much normal now.

 

[b1ewsw32]

For everyone who is not aware of my dosages, I will do my best to recall the madness. Keep in mind, I was on for about a year. Probably a little longer. Also, once I discontinued that cycle, I have been clean ever since.

50-75 mgs DBOL ED
1250 mgs Sustanon
1000 mgs EQ

100 mgs Propionate ED
600 mgs EQ
75 mgs Trenbolone ED

100 mgs Propionate ED
500 mgs Primo per week
75 mgs Trenbolone EOD
60 mgs Anavar ED
25 mcg - 100 mcg T3 ED
100 mcg - 220 mcg T3 ED

50 mgs Anadrol ED
100 mgs Suspenstion ED
100 mgs Winstrol ED

1000 mgs Test per week
9 iu's GH ED
10 iu's Humulin R ED
10 iu's Humalog ED
50 mcg T3 ED

Then I slowly tapered off for about 1 month after with Propionate and GH. It was something like that. I can't completely recall at this point I may be leaving somethings out but I used Aromasin, Arimidex, Finasteride and other acilliaries at different points throughout the year.

The PCT that I attempted was:

5000 iu's HCG 3x per week for the first week
2500 iu's HCG 3x per week for the second week
1500 iu's HCG 3x per week for the third week
500 iu's HCG 3x per week for the fourth week
150 mgs Clomid ED for the fifth week
100 mgs Clomid ED for the sixth week
50 mgs Clomid ED for the seventh week
40 mgs ED from first week to the fourth week
20 mgs ED from fifth week to the seventh week

I've been in a situation very similar to yours, as you have evidenced by some of my posts in the past.
Both my urologist and andrologist were very helpful in returning my hormonal paraters to homeostatis.
Hcg and HMG is given in conjunction to many who have prolonged use/abuse of AAS. The usual protocol is to titrate the HCG up to 5000i.u. 3x weekly if needed. This is a common protocol for Hypogonadism(after sexual maturity) ie.4000-5000 iu's 3x weekly for 6-8 wks. with a rest period of 2-3 weeks between courses of therapy. Then HmG may have to be added if there is not adequate response with HCG alone.
Did your doctor recomend or did you self administer aromasin during your gonadotropic stint? Lack of gynocomastia is amazing at that dose.
I hope your recovery goes well and that you can sustain decent levels of free testosterone after anti-e's or serms are discontinued.

Best of Luck...B32

 

[muscleup]

good thread guys...best of luck jenetic

 

[Jenetic]

"You have given out too much Karma in the last 24 hours, try again later."

I will make sure to hit everyone who participated in this discussion with K to show my appreciation.

Thanks

 

[rpol]

Bros I am on Hrt now but would like to know more about fertility/sperm production recovery, this was an awesome insight, anymore info would be great K to ya guys

 

[Wrongun]

Glad you are on the way to recovery. Thanks for sharing

Wrongun!

 

[DJ_UFO]

Good luck man. Include in your PCT going to strip clubs

 

[GoldenDelicious]

the second drug is just another which is used to mimic natural hormones and reregulate the hpta. i know you guys are getting hard ons over it but please leave it where it is, dont use it, or risk becoming a test dummie for new therapies to fix up your uniquely fucked up hpta.

i have heard of hcg used at that dose. not at all uncommon. arguably they could use less with comparable results, but so long as youre not getting any sides and are under specialist care, its no problem.

thanks for posting this thread, it would be an excellent idea for a mad or yourself to combine both threads and make a sticky about them, because really, people are becoming more and more blase about horrendously overdosed and lengthy cycles. I know several people who have been on for more than a year, and they are in complete denial about what is likely to occur when they come off. if ever they do. i get the feeling that when they come off, theyll promptly go back on to avert what is happening to them

excellent to see youre recovering.

cheers

 

[x_muscle]

me.......i want some karma

sorry i couldnt resist