I definitely believe it mobster, it is Amazing what the body and mind are really capable of when you strive towards goals.Back in the day I ran and trained and man... the fitness levels were crazy
I definitely believe it mobster, it is Amazing what the body and mind are really capable of when you strive towards goals.Back in the day I ran and trained and man... the fitness levels were crazy
Nice, so you feel a better congestion / pumpThursday August 3rd 2023
Today went very smoothly in my gym training the dedication and hard work is paying off in small progressive ways. I feel a big contributing factor is that I train alot for endurance as well as hypertrophy and the mixture is helping aid me in becoming stronger slowly over time.
I decided today I would stick mostly with 10 repetitions and 5 sets, I did toss in some isolation work in the end for 1 set of 20 or 25 for the repetition range. I feel sometimes it is necessary I step back and focus on a little heavier weight movements with exercises as well as dropping down into litter weights when I get fatigue setting in, in this manner of approach I still get quality repetition and my training doesn't become sloppy and I continue with proper techniques.
Today I hit a new PR for tricep extension machine, tricep push down machine, rope push downs as well as Bicep Curl for this year, I am down in weight but getting stronger in certain lifts, which I feel had alot to do with current para pharma cycle of test and primo. I feel they are working so well together along with my proper work outside of the gym so I recover and progress correctly. I believe doing everything 100% best of my abilities is the biggest factor and key as to why so far I have been successful this early on in my run and log.
Tomorrow is my last pinning for this week of the test and primo 100/100 making a total of 400mg combined for the week. I am playing the long game with this one, despite my thoughts about increasing amounts. I will run this through week six of the cycle and do some small blood work give everything proper time to take affect and shine. Week six and beyond into week 12 if I feel is needed then I will think about increase and potential pros and cons before doing anything.
Rope push downs I hit 57.7lbs for 10 reps today new PR. Tricep extension machine hit 200lbs for 10 reps, tricep push down machine hit 220lbs for 10 reps I am very proud of those accomplishments today as well as hitting 40lb DB curls for 8 reps.
The pump was phenomenal today and I felt super vascular in the gym as well as strength and energy was awesome as well, overall it was great training session today
One hurdle I always have to compete with is my right shoulder as I injured it outside of the gym years ago, ever since my surgery years back, my right arm and shoulder is weaker then my left arm and shoulder, it will give out on certain lifts before my other side does, it is constantly something I have to work around, which is fine it is life it happens, important part is I am able to do what I still love and care about at the end of the day we make it work.
Enjoy the longer update along with my training log everyone, as well as have a good up coming weekend
Topps
training Bicep/Tricep/Cardio
Bicep Side Curls
1x10@20lbs
1x10@25lbs
1x10@30lbs
1x10@35lbs
1x8@40lbs
DB Hammer Curls
1x10@20lbs
1x10@25lbs
2x10@30lbs
1x10@35lbs
Scoop DB Curls
1x10@20lbs
2x10@25lbs
2x10@30lbs
Barbell Curl
1x20@20lbs ( Normal grip)
1x20@20lbs ( Reverse grip)
KettleBell Curls
1x25@10lbs
Triceps
Rope Push Downs
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1x10@40lbs
1x10@47lbs
1x10@50lbs
1x10@57lbs
Tricep Extension Machine
1x10@160lbs
1x10@170lbs
1x10@180lbs
1x10@190lbs
1x10@200lbs
Tricep Push Down Machine
1x10@160lbs
1x10@170lbs
1x10@180lbs
1x10@190lbs
1x10@220lbs
Tricep Close Grip Cable
1x10@35lbs
1x10@40lbs
1x10@45lbs
1x10@50lbs
1x10@55lbs
Tricep Bodyweight Extension
5x10@209lbs
Cardio
Uphill
Treadmill
Incline 8.0
Speed 3.3
Distance 2.1 miles
Calories burned 300
Duration 45 minutes.
Indeed sleep and recovery have been top notch and going very well my friendNice, so you feel a better congestion / pump
Don't stop to eat well it's very important
About sleeping, do you notice some change ? if i have well understand you have a better mood, so i think your sleeping are better ?
Happy weekend my friend![]()
Great training session brotherFriday August 4 2023
Injection took place around 11am today, went super smooth again as I've figured out the method and best way with administration of Injection.
I hit the gym 2 hours after injection, I also decided I was going to pop 20mg of and ED drug for pump purposes during my chest workout today, pump was akin splitting lol, forgot how good those work as a pump product in a gym setting.
My workout was on point today and I felt strong and was able to hit all goals today with my resistance training.
The DB bells max out at 75lbs at my gym and I hit 60lb for 10 on Incline chest Press, most weight with DB I've done all year, I felt I could have hit 75lbs for 10 as I was feeling strong today and everything was hitting prefect, 15lbs to go till I hit my goal of benching those 75lb dbs. I felt it was best to conserve so fuel as I had a decent amount to accomplish today.
Overall i feel good and notice at a lower weight i feel stronger then ever with certain movements and rep ranges, pretty awesome feeling i must admit, mood positive, energy positive, workouts elevated, mood and attitude outside the gym happy, so far we are riding the wave of success in all aspects in and out of the gym, which i was truly aiming for and hoping that would be how this cycle goes, still early so anything can happen, i have to log everything for full transparency.
enjoy the update and training and have a good weekend everyone
topps
Chest/Cardio
Incline DB Press
1x20@20lbs
1x10@25lbs
1x10@40lbs
1x10@45lbs
1x10@50lbs
1x10@55lbs
1x10@60lbs
Bodyweight Push-ups
2x25@209lbs
1x10
1x10
1x10
1x10
1x10
Cable Chest Flys ( two variations)
2x20@15lbs
2x10@20lbs
1x10@25lbs
1x10@30lbs
1x10@35lbs
1x10@50lbs
Dips Bodyweight
3x10@209
DB Isolation Movements ( 5 variations)
2X15@20lbs
2x15@25lbs
2x15@20lbs
1x20@20lbs
1x20@20lbs
Cardio
Treadmill
Duration 45 minutes
Miles 2.5
Speed 3.3
Calories burned 300
@Topps_Baseball88 cardio staying high niceFriday August 4 2023
Injection took place around 11am today, went super smooth again as I've figured out the method and best way with administration of Injection.
I hit the gym 2 hours after injection, I also decided I was going to pop 20mg of and ED drug for pump purposes during my chest workout today, pump was akin splitting lol, forgot how good those work as a pump product in a gym setting.
My workout was on point today and I felt strong and was able to hit all goals today with my resistance training.
The DB bells max out at 75lbs at my gym and I hit 60lb for 10 on Incline chest Press, most weight with DB I've done all year, I felt I could have hit 75lbs for 10 as I was feeling strong today and everything was hitting prefect, 15lbs to go till I hit my goal of benching those 75lb dbs. I felt it was best to conserve so fuel as I had a decent amount to accomplish today.
Overall i feel good and notice at a lower weight i feel stronger then ever with certain movements and rep ranges, pretty awesome feeling i must admit, mood positive, energy positive, workouts elevated, mood and attitude outside the gym happy, so far we are riding the wave of success in all aspects in and out of the gym, which i was truly aiming for and hoping that would be how this cycle goes, still early so anything can happen, i have to log everything for full transparency.
enjoy the update and training and have a good weekend everyone
topps
Chest/Cardio
Incline DB Press
1x20@20lbs
1x10@25lbs
1x10@40lbs
1x10@45lbs
1x10@50lbs
1x10@55lbs
1x10@60lbs
Bodyweight Push-ups
2x25@209lbs
1x10
1x10
1x10
1x10
1x10
Cable Chest Flys ( two variations)
2x20@15lbs
2x10@20lbs
1x10@25lbs
1x10@30lbs
1x10@35lbs
1x10@50lbs
Dips Bodyweight
3x10@209
DB Isolation Movements ( 5 variations)
2X15@20lbs
2x15@25lbs
2x15@20lbs
1x20@20lbs
1x20@20lbs
Cardio
Treadmill
Duration 45 minutes
Miles 2.5
Speed 3.3
Calories burned 300
@Topps_Baseball88 you still on ostazol cardazol? how are the big PUMps on high rep daysSunday August 6 2023
After that heavy back day and cardio on Saturday today I woke up and I felt like I hit a wall today, I was fighting myself about staying in bed or getting out of bed today and getting a workout in, in typical fashion I felt guilty and like I was letting myself down if I didn't get up and go.
By the time I had gotten ready and out the door I had 45 minutes for a workout so I decided on a heavier leg day today. I kept all sets at 3x12 and each movement had a warm-up set of 50 repetitions at much lower weight then my working sets. I just did 50lbs for 50 repetitions I didn't care about the weight, I just wanted to get warmed up and pump as much blood into the muscles as possible before my heavy working sets.
Overall my legs felt strong today and I accomplished everything I set out at doing today resistance wise in those 45 minutes the only down side is I have to go back after work and do cardio, I did it to myself though so that is on me for dragging ass today.
I've been playing different podcasts and I keep hearing the hosts say 400mg of primo bare minimum or it's a waste and you feel nothing, well I want to call BS on those statements because in the gym I feel a whole lot of everything, as my lifts heavy or moderate high rep or low rep, weights are increasing, endurance is increasing as well as weights are getting easier to rep out and put up, way more then when I was just on trt/ Normal levels of testosterone in my blood stream.
Maybe this is rare I don't really know because I'm using what the masses reject as far as a mg amount and I've seen progress week after week and I'm not even 4 weeks in yet. I don't want to just credit the testosterone because I've been on 200mg before nothing else like I said and I didn't see this kind of progress at all.
Overall I felt strong I felt a great pump and mind muscle connection tired or not my body is finding ways at pushing through and progression is being made regardless.
No negative sides i can report at this point in time overall still coasting in a positive manner day 2 day.
enjoy the update everyone
Topps
Legs/Abs
Leg Extension Machine
1x50@50lbs
3x12@225lbs
Seated Hamstring Curl
1x50@50lbs
3x12@150lbs
Hip Abductor Machine
1x50@50lbs
3x12@185lbs
Leg Press Machine
1x50@50lbs
3x12@330lbs
Seated Cave Press Machine
1x50@50lbs
3x12@230lbs
Standing Bodyweight Cave Raises
1X30@209lbs
Ab coaster Machine Bodyweight +25lbs
2x25
Ab Torsion Rotation Machine
1x50@50lbs
1x50@50lbs
Thank you brother, I am doing my best to give as much detail and put as much focus into this as possible for myself and the community.great job on this update
Some days I do some days I don't as I like to switch different things up so I don't get to used to the same thing. I like to toss some curve balls into the mix.@Topps_Baseball88 you still on ostazol cardazol? how are the big PUMps on high rep days
Thank you for the praise brother on the days I get tired and I'm sore or hit a wall the constant support from all of you keeps me driving forward.you are doing great topps!
I do what I can brother, I truly love doing logs and I am setting my sights on earning more opportunities for logs like this.bro topps yo my hero
I always need to deliver just how it need to be brother.bros topps delivers again
I got 12 weeks to go to the max and push it to the limit.balla level training
Always brother that is my style!PUMP IT HARD dude
Thank you for the kind words brotherg2g training day again
Thank you brother I appreciate you having my back and full support for myself and the log, got to do right by UGF, You and Para Pharma. My log has to break boundaries and push what I am capable of mentally and physically. I can't let myself or the community down.great job topps, that is a lot of weight!
Sometimes I do Squat, the reason I don't Squat as much these days only having access with a Smith Machine it hurts my right knee pretty good being locked into one bar path, arthritis flares up at times with Squats compared to other leg movements. I can always give it another shot and see how it goes.I'm not seeing squats - just machines
@Topps_Baseball88 yea i stopped squats my back hurts and my knees hurt lolSometimes I do Squat, the reason I don't Squat as much these days only having access with a Smith Machine it hurts my right knee pretty good being locked into one bar path, arthritis flares up at times with Squats compared to other leg movements. I can always give it another shot and see how it goes.
One thing I do is rotate three main exercises. See my log. That way means it's 2 weeks before I squat againSometimes I do Squat, the reason I don't Squat as much these days only having access with a Smith Machine it hurts my right knee pretty good being locked into one bar path, arthritis flares up at times with Squats compared to other leg movements. I can always give it another shot and see how it goes.
That is actually a very good idea and I can give that a shot and I will check it out and read it over, it definitely could help and give me some good ideas on how to go about it.One thing I do is rotate three main exercises. See my log. That way means it's 2 weeks before I squat again
Yeah that is in the back of my mind 100%Just don’t risk injury
@Topps_Baseball88 energy levels can go up and down that happens.Wednesday August 9th
Today marks 3 weeks and two days since being on cycle. I am unclear as to what happened today, I just seem to have hit a wall today, I went to bed fine last night in a good mood and today I woke up feeling really blah or like I hit a wall today. I honestly didn't even want to train today. I trained the whole time I felt extremely flat and depleted of energy and just overall the whole time my mind wasn't focused, probably just having and off day which happens in life, I don't expect to me on everyday and feeling top notch at all times, just got to be realistic about it.
I had to force myself through my workout today, which was difficult because I was not having fun today I was not in it today, not sure why but just not a good one today gentleman.
Injection on Monday went good, I filled the syringe with primo and I looked down at my pecs and thought you know what I've never injected into the pec before, let's find out if it can hold 1ml of primo, interesting thing was I didn't even feel the needle go in when I pushed it in, it was so smooth and easy, took my time and slowly pressed the plunger down, pulled the needle out and no oil leaked out at all, I was super shocked I didn't realize the pec could hold 1ml of oil but now I know, might go back to the pecs some more after how easy it was overall.
Absolutely zero pip utilizing the pec with primo during Injection and today which is Wednesday very minor knot like smaller then normal when I inject primo, which is pretty nice. Test went in flawless like usual nothing to report on that aspect of Injection.
Looking back from when I first started cycle till now, I feel I made one mistake, I should have tossed in 1 oral and that oral being Tbol something more fast acting since I'm using longer esters, I could have taken the Tbol daily 1 hour before my workouts and I feel a certain synergy could have been created running test/primo/tbol together, oh well could have should have etc, food for thought maybe my next possible cycle could be those 3 together since all 3 compounds align with my current path and goals I'm currently working towards with this cycle etc. I decided it was a safer route going with just two injectable compounds so I can limit possible side effects for my first run. I get in my mind to much and for some reason I always am thinking and analyzing my steps and my process.
I am so frustrated today and that is dangerous for me because when I get frustrated with my first workout out typically I will go back after work and put another 45 minutes in and do a second workout, if I leave not satisfied with what I did or accomplished even if I worked hard, in my mind I feel like I failed and I hate feeling failure, it sounds stupid and I get it if some feel that way, for me it just drives me to go back and try to rectify the situation and my mind is stubborn at times which could be counter productive which I fully am aware of.
Just wanted to share my inner most thoughts today and vent a bit in the log journal so everyone has a clear picture during my log and cycle my ups and downs my best my worst upfront and open.
Enjoy the update everyone
Topps
Today's training
Shoulders/Delts/Traps
Seated DB Shoulder Press
1x20@25lbs
1x20@30lbs
1x20@35lbs
1x20@40lbs
1x20@45lbs
Shoulder Press Machine
3x10@105lbs
Dips
3x10@Bodyweight
Bench Dips
1x50@bodyweight
Front raises
3x15 ( 25lb plate)
Seated Front raises
3x10@25lbs
Seated side lateral raises (Two variations)
3x10@25lbs
3x10@25lbs
Rear DB delt fly
3x10@25lbs
Traps
Barbell Shrugs
1x20@115lbs
3x20@175lbs
Plate Shurgs
2x20@25lbs
Cardio
Slow steady
Treadmill
Speed 2.6
Duration 60 minutes
Miles 2.45
Calories burned 200
I've used it in the past nothing at those amounts, I could stop at the local supplement shop and see if they carry it, I would definitely give it a shot. I do like nootropics haven't used one in a long time.@Topps_Baseball88 energy levels can go up and down that happens.
Are you taking lions mane mushrooms 500mgs to 1000mgs ed? if not you need to start this nootropic asap.
@Topps_Baseball88 you can order online fermented lions mane mushrooms take 1000mgs per day it will change your lifeI've used it in the past nothing at those amounts, I could stop at the local supplement shop and see if they carry it, I would definitely give it a shot. I do like nootropics haven't used one in a long time.
@Topps_Baseball88 i am always enjoying the updatsHello all, I will start this out saying today was a much improved day and I felt alot better during my day and my training session today. I will chalk up yesterday with just being and off day and we all get those at times. Overall my training was top notch today. I increased my tricep push down weight on the machine 25lbs so I can now max out the Machine at 250lbs for a set of 10 which was a good feeling overall. I also was able to hit single arm Seated Machine curls for 3x12 at 100lbs and my Seated preacher Curl was 3x12 at 110lbs my single arm cable curls I am now able to hit 42lbs for a set of 10 as well, things went great on that front, I was very pleased with the work I was able to put in today. I felt strong i felt dialed in today.
I had a normal checkup yesterday and my Blood pressure was 120/70 so we are looking spot on in that aspect as well, still no negative sides for me to report on with current cycle 3 weeks in.
Overall experience has been positive and the cycle is going flawless at this point in time, I am very pleased with the ease of use with this cycle and the continued para pharma quality gear. Pip is zero from the pec injection of primo I did Monday and everything is a breeze on that front. Definitely seeing the vascularity come in while in the gym and sometimes outside the gym I see it for no reason lol. Starting to get veins in my front delts popping again and across my neck into my upper chest area from looking in the mirror kind of neat looking when I work that area and the veins are just popping out of my skin.
Primo might not be even close to tren but i will say it again for myself primo does not feel weak, im seeing strength contiune to improve week after week in modest amounts, being nautral I never felt anything like it, it is a weird but cool experience week after week seeing small and big improvements along the way from the enhanced side of things inside the gym, the best part of primo is I feel it in the gym and when I'm not in the gym I don't feel it at all, hard to tell i am even on anything which I actually love that I only feel it working in the gym and outside of the gym I have normal days and don't have to worry about any sides like with a harsher compound, some of the many reasons why I love primo so far, it is everything I thought it would be and then some.
Bicep/Tricep/Cardio
Stand Bicep Curl
1x20@15lbs
2x10@20lbs
1x10@25lbs
1x10@30lbs
1x10@35lbs
Stand Side Bicep Curl
1x20@15lbs
1x10@20lbs
1x10@25lbs
2x10@30lbs
Stand One Arm Cable Curl
1x10@42lbs
1x10@37lbs
1x10@27lbs
1x10@17lbs
1x20@12lbs
Single Arm Seated Machine Curl
3x12@100lbs
Seated Preacher Curl
3x12@110lbs
Stand Barbell Curl
2x20@40lbs
Triceps
Tricep Cable Push Down
2x25@50lbs
Tricep Extension Machine
1x20@185lbd
3x10@200lbs
Tricep Push Down Machine
1x10@225lbs
1x10@235lbs
1x10@240lhs
1x10@245lbs
1x10@250lbs
Standing Barbell Skull Crusher
1x30@40lbs
Body weight Tricep extension
3x15@209lbs
Didn't have much time before I had to get to work so we went hard for 20 minutes the cave and Hamstring pump on Incline cardio was hellish lol but we didn't quit we powered through.
Cardio
Uphill
Incline 12.5
Speed 3.6
Duration 20 minutes
Miles 1.1
Calories burned 220
Enjoy the update everyone!
Topps![]()
Thank you Steve! I am finding my footing as I go along and I really am trying to dive deep in my mind and take it all in while I write and before I post my updates. I am happy you enjoyed it.that was an incredible update
I will definitely look into it, any specific brand you recommend?@Topps_Baseball88 you can order online fermented lions mane mushrooms take 1000mgs per day it will change your life
Thank you brother, I appreciate the continued support@Topps_Baseball88 i am always enjoying the updats
Thank you brothergreat job topps!
The para pharma primo has been nothing but good to me! 10/10 would recommend para and the primo they stock, getting my baring with the para test and primo, man oh man when I get to try other injectable I just know it will be top quality as well.glad the para pharma primo has been good to you
keep grinding, you are making solid progress
Appreciate the humbling words brother when I embarked on this path and journey I made a promise to myself and everyone as well as gave my word I would be committed and dedicated, so I give you the best and worst of me good bad or in-between everytime I post my logs, I want it to be worth the read for all of you and I want it to be from the heart.#1 dedicated log for realz
I will see what I can I do for you mobster. If I can get a good photo of it during my next workout for Triceps I will do so.Strong pushdowns. See if you can't post a pic of them
nice work broHello all, I will start this out saying today was a much improved day and I felt alot better during my day and my training session today. I will chalk up yesterday with just being and off day and we all get those at times. Overall my training was top notch today. I increased my tricep push down weight on the machine 25lbs so I can now max out the Machine at 250lbs for a set of 10 which was a good feeling overall. I also was able to hit single arm Seated Machine curls for 3x12 at 100lbs and my Seated preacher Curl was 3x12 at 110lbs my single arm cable curls I am now able to hit 42lbs for a set of 10 as well, things went great on that front, I was very pleased with the work I was able to put in today. I felt strong i felt dialed in today.
I had a normal checkup yesterday and my Blood pressure was 120/70 so we are looking spot on in that aspect as well, still no negative sides for me to report on with current cycle 3 weeks in.
Overall experience has been positive and the cycle is going flawless at this point in time, I am very pleased with the ease of use with this cycle and the continued para pharma quality gear. Pip is zero from the pec injection of primo I did Monday and everything is a breeze on that front. Definitely seeing the vascularity come in while in the gym and sometimes outside the gym I see it for no reason lol. Starting to get veins in my front delts popping again and across my neck into my upper chest area from looking in the mirror kind of neat looking when I work that area and the veins are just popping out of my skin.
Primo might not be even close to tren but i will say it again for myself primo does not feel weak, im seeing strength contiune to improve week after week in modest amounts, being nautral I never felt anything like it, it is a weird but cool experience week after week seeing small and big improvements along the way from the enhanced side of things inside the gym, the best part of primo is I feel it in the gym and when I'm not in the gym I don't feel it at all, hard to tell i am even on anything which I actually love that I only feel it working in the gym and outside of the gym I have normal days and don't have to worry about any sides like with a harsher compound, some of the many reasons why I love primo so far, it is everything I thought it would be and then some.
Bicep/Tricep/Cardio
Stand Bicep Curl
1x20@15lbs
2x10@20lbs
1x10@25lbs
1x10@30lbs
1x10@35lbs
Stand Side Bicep Curl
1x20@15lbs
1x10@20lbs
1x10@25lbs
2x10@30lbs
Stand One Arm Cable Curl
1x10@42lbs
1x10@37lbs
1x10@27lbs
1x10@17lbs
1x20@12lbs
Single Arm Seated Machine Curl
3x12@100lbs
Seated Preacher Curl
3x12@110lbs
Stand Barbell Curl
2x20@40lbs
Triceps
Tricep Cable Push Down
2x25@50lbs
Tricep Extension Machine
1x20@185lbd
3x10@200lbs
Tricep Push Down Machine
1x10@225lbs
1x10@235lbs
1x10@240lhs
1x10@245lbs
1x10@250lbs
Standing Barbell Skull Crusher
1x30@40lbs
Body weight Tricep extension
3x15@209lbs
Didn't have much time before I had to get to work so we went hard for 20 minutes the cave and Hamstring pump on Incline cardio was hellish lol but we didn't quit we powered through.
Cardio
Uphill
Incline 12.5
Speed 3.6
Duration 20 minutes
Miles 1.1
Calories burned 220
Enjoy the update everyone!
Topps![]()
Thank you brotherYou’re killing it big dog
@Topps_Baseball88 I like to pin the delt too, smootherFriday August 11 2023
Woke up around 9:30am this morning first thing of the day on Fridays is getting out my vials of test and primo, swab the vials prep the syringes, clean the skin and Inject first thing starting my day off. I did the test into my left side delt haven't used the delts in a long time, needle went in clean Injection went super smooth. I decided on my left upper chest for the primo Injection, which also went super smooth. Today's Injections rounds out at 200 test & 200 primo for the week.
I hit the gym around noon today and I knew going into this I was going for a heavy back day keeping reps between 5-10 total for each set. Overall I felt strong I felt dialed in and everything went great today. I hit 240lbs for 5 on Seated Cable low row today and 200lbs for 10, row machine I maxed out at 200lbs for 5x10 my cable lat pull down also increased 3x5 at 200lbs I hit 275lbs for 5 reps on Bent over barbell row and did working sets at 235lbs for 3x10. I also hit 105lbs on Rear delt Machine flys which is a new pr for me as well. I am 100% pleased with my progress the last 2 weeks I've focused on going heavier for back.
No negative sides for me with my daily reporting, mood is good today aggression outside the gym low inside the gym spot on. All in all other than my one off day this week it's full steam ahead.
Enjoy the update everyone!
Topps
Back/Cardio
Seated Machine Row
5x10@200lbs
Seated Cable Low Row
1x10@140lbs
1x10@160lbs
1x10@180lbs
1x10@200lbs
1x5@240lbs
Cable Lat Pull Down
1x10@140lbs
1x10@160lbs
1x10@180lbs
3x5@200lbs
Bent Over Smith Machine Barbell Row
1x10@175lbs
3x10@235lbs
1x5@275lbs
Bench Dips
1x50@bodyweight
Rear Delt Fly Machine
5x10@105lbs
Rear Delt DB Flys
3x15@25lbs
Cardio
Treadmill
Incline 8.5
Speed 3.3
Duration 40 minutes
Miles 2
Calories burned 303
The general consensus is I should wait untill I get bloods at the 6 week mark and if everything checks out then bump the primo up. I've been doing alot of listening and researching as well as getting insight from people who have a ton of experience with primo. I've known the bare minimum effective dosing is 400mg a week. I've been thinking in my mind am I leaving results on the table or shorting myself if I don't give 400mg a chance. I know primo can be run as high as 1000mg a week, personally I would never see the point in going that extreme with the dose, first I thought 300mg and had for a long time, then playing tons of podcasts hearing the experience of others alot have stated 400mg is and excellent dose for cosmetic and muscle gains over time. Eventually I do want to and will bump the dose up some. The only issue I really see is that will be alot of oil into the body since I have 100mg/ml for my primo, I could in theory split the shots if need be. I truly believe 400mg a week would be the correct move, now I could be wrong but that is my personal opinion. I think 200 test a week and 400 primo for the last 6 weeks would be a gtrat middle and end for my cycle.@Topps_Baseball88 I like to pin the delt too, smoother
you planning to bump to 300mgs primo? saw you discuss this.
@Topps_Baseball88 200 test 400primo as a cycle closer is a good push. I do see why waiting until week 6 is the right move, I would do that.The general consensus is I should wait untill I get bloods at the 6 week mark and if everything checks out then bump the primo up. I've been doing alot of listening and researching as well as getting insight from people who have a ton of experience with primo. I've known the bare minimum effective dosing is 400mg a week. I've been thinking in my mind am I leaving results on the table or shorting myself if I don't give 400mg a chance. I know primo can be run as high as 1000mg a week, personally I would never see the point in going that extreme with the dose, first I thought 300mg and had for a long time, then playing tons of podcasts hearing the experience of others alot have stated 400mg is and excellent dose for cosmetic and muscle gains over time. Eventually I do want to and will bump the dose up some. The only issue I really see is that will be alot of oil into the body since I have 100mg/ml for my primo, I could in theory split the shots if need be. I truly believe 400mg a week would be the correct move, now I could be wrong but that is my personal opinion. I think 200 test a week and 400 primo for the last 6 weeks would be a gtrat middle and end for my cycle.
I am glad you agree and see what I was trying to get at, I feel getting my feet wet and sticking with 200/200 for 6 weeks really will get me used to knowing how I feel how my body reacts and what I can achieve on those doses, I believe making the push at 200/400 for test and primo is excellent for closing and doesn't put my body under alot of stress since it's only for 6 weeks and I have been taking allt of supplements ontop of a good diet for blood flow clotting heart liver for my lipids and for help with blood pressure even if I don't need it im taking it, right now at 200/200 I'm between 116/60 and 120/70 for my resting BP@Topps_Baseball88 200 test 400primo as a cycle closer is a good push. I do see why waiting until week 6 is the right move, I would do that.
@Topps_Baseball88 get started plan that boostI am glad you agree and see what I was trying to get at, I feel getting my feet wet and sticking with 200/200 for 6 weeks really will get me used to knowing how I feel how my body reacts and what I can achieve on those doses, I believe making the push at 200/400 for test and primo is excellent for closing and doesn't put my body under alot of stress since it's only for 6 weeks and I have been taking allt of supplements ontop of a good diet for blood flow clotting heart liver for my lipids and for help with blood pressure even if I don't need it im taking it, right now at 200/200 I'm between 116/60 and 120/70 for my resting BP
Definitely heading that direction, putting 2ml in compared with 1ml during Injection is going to be a bitch probability is not favorable or going to be fun.@Topps_Baseball88 get started plan that boost
Yeah I will be doing that so I can see if it is just the scale because I was like that should not be happening as I haven't over eaten or changed anything, the one thing I'm more concerned with is that hard lump that is tender when I push on it in the right pec that I injected into, it's not behind the nipple but it's just seems my muscle hated that primo Injection, I did the same Injection into the left pec and didn't get the same outcome. Just bothering me so I hope that goes away.you can always try a different scale to see what is up
@Topps_Baseball88 are you saying you injected your chest and now there is a lump?My finger tip is where the lump is just to explain it better and show a visual representation if it was confusing when I typed it ourt, so as you can see it's not on under or behind my nipple, maybe it was just a bad shot and I didn't realize it, like I said I had no idea it was even there till I looked for a spot to inject today and I felt it when I pushed down onto the muscle. I'm been massaging it off and on today but I'm wondering if I should just let it be and it will go away like the other ones have for the last few weeks after primo injections.
I am just going to chalk it up to a bad pin or that muscle and spot didn't like that much primo going into it, all I can do now is wait for the lump to go down and break apart and the inflammation in the muscle to go away, as long as it's not gyno which clearly it is not that I'm golden lol.
it might just be a bad pinMy finger tip is where the lump is just to explain it better and show a visual representation if it was confusing when I typed it ourt, so as you can see it's not on under or behind my nipple, maybe it was just a bad shot and I didn't realize it, like I said I had no idea it was even there till I looked for a spot to inject today and I felt it when I pushed down onto the muscle. I'm been massaging it off and on today but I'm wondering if I should just let it be and it will go away like the other ones have for the last few weeks after primo injections.
I am just going to chalk it up to a bad pin or that muscle and spot didn't like that much primo going into it, all I can do now is wait for the lump to go down and break apart and the inflammation in the muscle to go away, as long as it's not gyno which clearly it is not that I'm golden lol.
( short answer yes after injection) , it could have formed a few days after because i didnt even know it was there till i pushed on my right pec Monday I was feeling my right pec for a possible injection spot and I pressed down I felt a lump, its not on or behind my nipple its on the injection spot i used, Same thing happened with my ventro glute one time on cycle , i think I'm more concerned because it's the pec and we'll gyno not that I have that just why I got concerned lol.@Topps_Baseball88 are you saying you injected your chest and now there is a lump?
or are you saying BEFORE the injection there is a lump?
those are 2 different things
I don't think it is gyno the lump Is right where I did last weeks injection in my right pec, just freaks me out some because I didn't know I had it till I felt around lol, be pretty weird if I got that off shuch low test and primobolan as I've run test solo at 200mg no AI never any issues.so is it gyno or not? want to know
Yeah I thought the same I think just bad injection on my part with the primobolan oil into that spot for some reasong2g log but lump strange
I didbros give us lump details
Yeah I injected into the left side of the middle chest area on the pec, I didn't notice the lump till this past Monday when I was feeling around my chest, it's not beyond the nipple, no breast enlargement, maybe just a super terrible pin on my part and really bad inflammation? That is my guess.so lump after injection or what?
I think it is a bad pin probably the worse one I've had so far lol, been trying to massage it fee times a day, it would be hella weird gyno off primo and low test, not likely, I feel you are right and I'm just over worrying, either way I got Arimidex on hand if ever needed.it might just be a bad pin
Why did you pin there?Yeah I injected into the left side of the middle chest area on the pec, I didn't notice the lump till this past Monday when I was feeling around my chest, it's not beyond the nipple, no breast enlargement, maybe just a super terrible pin on my part and really bad inflammation? That is my guess.
Wanted to try something different the 2 times I did it nothing the 3rd time bar shot and yeah, lesson learned experience gained for the next time around. I've had to massage and press extremely hard on the area, I'm getting it to break up and go down some so definitely not gyno is how I'm seeing it.Why did you pin there?
Indeed I did live and learn I didn't pin by or around the nipple I pinned off to the left of if pretty far away but still into the pec.So... you pinned into that area?
you inj into chest bro. how often you pinning? you cant rotate glutes and shouldersMy finger tip is where the lump is just to explain it better and show a visual representation if it was confusing when I typed it ourt, so as you can see it's not on under or behind my nipple, maybe it was just a bad shot and I didn't realize it, like I said I had no idea it was even there till I looked for a spot to inject today and I felt it when I pushed down onto the muscle. I'm been massaging it off and on today but I'm wondering if I should just let it be and it will go away like the other ones have for the last few weeks after primo injections.
I am just going to chalk it up to a bad pin or that muscle and spot didn't like that much primo going into it, all I can do now is wait for the lump to go down and break apart and the inflammation in the muscle to go away, as long as it's not gyno which clearly it is not that I'm golden lol.
I just felt I needed to experiment and try something different, sometimes we pay the price for that and I was willing to accept that it was on me and my responsibilities with what could happen. Typically I rotate stomach and gluten and delts.you inj into chest bro. how often you pinning? you cant rotate glutes and shoulders
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