TRT/HRT questions

[burnthiscorpse]

Being 33 and on my first cycle in 8 years, also an extended cycle. When I do come off I will have all the ammo I can to do a strong PCT and get back to normal.
like: A-dex (want aromasin but allready have a-dex)
post cycle
PP's recovery stack
Hcg

If I do need trt soon or at some point in the future, am I to understand that you have to go to the office for injects until "they" think you can handle it on your own? That would seriously piss me off. Not to mention its out of the question with my doc being 40 min away.
My doc is cool as shit as far as that goes though. I would think with my own injection experience, and the fact that they gave my wife B-12 shots to take home on suggestion that I will be giving them to her. I should be fine.

I was wondering too, How do some people get small amounts of deca perscribed to them weekly? I'm only into my 2nd week of ever using deca, but I love the way I feel with it added to the test(yes I feel it). My joints all feel alot better too. I love deca

 

[HenryBlake]

Being 33 and on my first cycle in 8 years, also an extended cycle. When I do come off I will have all the ammo I can to do a strong PCT and get back to normal.
like: A-dex (want aromasin but allready have a-dex)
post cycle
PP's recovery stack
Hcg

If I do need trt soon or at some point in the future, am I to understand that you have to go to the office for injects until "they" think you can handle it on your own? That would seriously piss me off. Not to mention its out of the question with my doc being 40 min away.
My doc is cool as shit as far as that goes though. I would think with my own injection experience, and the fact that they gave my wife B-12 shots to take home on suggestion that I will be giving them to her. I should be fine.

I was wondering too, How do some people get small amounts of deca perscribed to them weekly? I'm only into my 2nd week of ever using deca, but I love the way I feel with it added to the test(yes I feel it). My joints all feel alot better too. I love deca

Hey bro,
My Dr. would NOT allow me to inject myself on my HRT, pissed me off to no extent. He told me that if I didn't like it, I should find another Dr.
Told him (and he knows this) that I travel for a living and that I can't always make it in to get poked, his response- then when you do get back to town, come see me the next day, you'll be alright.
He had no other reason other than he was worried I would over inject myself and give myself a heart attack,WTF
He even know's that I inject myself with med's when I get migraine headaces.
I think he's a control freak.
One nice thing about going in for my injection, The nurse is sooooo HOT, I enjoy dropping my pants for her. Too bad she's married.
Wish I had better news.
Have a great day!!

 

[needtogetaas]

First off they will try to give you androgel or some crap like that first. That will be your first fight.

Getting deca meh forget it they will not do it.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

so the people I see that areon 50-60mg of deca a week are self perscribed then.

My doc is cool as hell. She is proactive and just great. When I go for blood work in a week or two (mid cycle) we will have the talk about why I suddenly look the way I do . She knows I'm thorough and always do my research. She always sends me off with "why you telling me, you know what your doing, just go do it" .
As I said, my wife needed B-12 shots. They wanted her to drive 40 minutes once a week. She said no, my husband is experienced, he will do it for me. They didnt bat an eyelash.
I will be goddamned if I'm going to use cream or any of that other shit.
The beginning of my discussion with her will be the big differences I feel now versus being in early 20's. How I am getting all the medical benefits and how I feel great.
That will be a partial set-up for possible future TRT

 

[Nelson Montana]

You're too young for HRT. Why would you want it?

They used to prescribe deca but I doubt if you can find a doc to do it today. Besides, it's a shitty drug for HRT.

 

[hulksterii]

I am able to get Deca as part of my HRT. I did so for joint protection etc.... HRT iw the shit though.

Am curious Nelson about your view on this?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

You're too young for HRT. Why would you want it?

They used to prescribe deca but I doubt if you can find a doc to do it today. Besides, it's a shitty drug for HRT.

No bro , I'm only saying if it were to become necessary for me to have TRT. I plan on doing a good PCT with all future cycles. Its just a hypothetical in the sense that some people never recover fully from 1 cycle let alone many. If that happens at some point, just trying to be prepared.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Jeez... I agree with Nelson 200%... HRT isn't fun & games... trust me, after a year, you get TIRED of the whole process. HRT should be a LAST resort... if you're healthy and you can take measures (PCT) to get back to "normal", then do it!

Deca is ridiculous for HRT... there are better, healthier ways to help your joints.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

the deca was more or less a side question. Just to be clear, I was referring to TRT not deca alone.
Believe me, the first thing that came to mind was that the shit would get old after a year. Let alone the hassle of travel with it, script or not. Also the thought of what if maybe I decided to get out of the iron game someday, or got injured and couldnt do it. Then I would still have to poke every week. Dont worry I'm not all hot on the idea.

 

[coreyv93]

Deca for HRT/TRT?
isnt that like trying to kill a fly with a sledgehammer? i mean, a tad bit overkill? i can see androgel, or later, 100mg/test cyp/week for trt but deca?

 

[goin on 4T]

Deca is ridiculous for HRT... there are better, healthier ways to help your joints.

Such as?

I get deca as part of my HRT also so please help me out. What is a better choice for joints?

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Deca for HRT/TRT?
isnt that like trying to kill a fly with a sledgehammer? i mean, a tad bit overkill? i can see androgel, or later, 100mg/test cyp/week for trt but deca?

Dude, I did not say deca for TRT. I said possibly along with.

 

[AAP]

Has the trend for docs allowing HRT with SQ injections continued or fizzled out? It was promoted a couple years ago as a new route to help patients with their self injects.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Has the trend for docs allowing HRT with SQ injections continued or fizzled out? It was promoted a couple years ago as a new route to help patients with their self injects.

yikes! they were promoting that ??? wow. that sounds like an infection or abcess waiting to happen. Real smart medical community we have.

 

[njmuscleguy]

Such as?

I get deca as part of my HRT also so please help me out. What is a better choice for joints?

I'm curious.... what sort of doctor do you see for your HRT? Do you by any chance see one of those life extension clinics?

I have had joint issues for years.. I've tried alot of stuff and wasted tons of money... I have impinged shoulders, a bad c-spine, and a couple of bum knees... for me, the best thing was incorporating a good daily stretch program, seeing a good chiropractor for "maintenance"... as for supplements, I take on a long-term basis a high potency glucosamine/chondroitin/MSM product and cissus q. powder... are they miracle-workers? No, do they help? Sure. And you have to take them daily for months and months for them to have their moderate effects...point is, they're not harsh on your system like deca.

 

[goin on 4T]

I'm curious.... what sort of doctor do you see for your HRT? Do you by any chance see one of those life extension clinics?

I have had joint issues for years.. I've tried alot of stuff and wasted tons of money... I have impinged shoulders, a bad c-spine, and a couple of bum knees... for me, the best thing was incorporating a good daily stretch program, seeing a good chiropractor for "maintenance"... as for supplements, I take on a long-term basis a high potency glucosamine/chondroitin/MSM product and cissus q. powder... are they miracle-workers? No, do they help? Sure. And you have to take them daily for months and months for them to have their moderate effects...point is, they're not harsh on your system like deca.

Services & Procedures

 

[njmuscleguy]

ahh, ok... so it *is* one of those clinics....explains why they prescribe deca

 

[goin on 4T]

ahh, ok... so it *is* one of those clinics....explains why they prescribe deca

What do you mean by, "one of those clinics"?
They are legit.

 

[njmuscleguy]

What do you mean by, "one of those clinics"?
They are legit.

I'm not questioning that clinic in particular... but from what I know of life extension / hrt clinics in general, they are more likely to prescribe non-standard meds such as deca, etc. whereas an endo or urologist experienced in hormone deficiency would likely not... I also do know that alot of these clinics online have gotten busted / shut-down for shady practices...

 

[goin on 4T]

Well, yes there are a lot of things that can be prescribed and there are alot of reasons to need them. I quit taking the deca due to the fact that I changed my WO to the Omega wo and it is so less stressfull on the joints; also I am very glad I don't all the water that deca adds to the body!
Oh and my script is for 400mg of cyp and 400 of deca per week. Most people think they are shady until they realize they can legally obtain things that were doing illegally!
GLTY

 

[theemperor]

I agree goin on 4T. If you have a legal script for whatever, peanut butter with Deca-Durabolin on wheat toast, your good to go. I mean, what else would you want? Have to find a legit HRT clinic and right folks who know what their doing legally, and thats where I stand also.

 

[hackamore]

the deca was more or less a side question. Just to be clear, I was referring to TRT not deca alone.
Believe me, the first thing that came to mind was that the shit would get old after a year. Let alone the hassle of travel with it, script or not. Also the thought of what if maybe I decided to get out of the iron game someday, or got injured and couldnt do it. Then I would still have to poke every week. Dont worry I'm not all hot on the idea.

I'm an "old man" by the standards here... 53...

my weekly doses are:

175mg of test (1/4cc of supertest450 and 1/4cc of test-e) and (optionally, like now when I'm working up to a summer bod) 100mg of deca (1/2cc) in 1 stick on thursday AM (coming up in a few hours).

1/4mg of arimidex eod

250iu of hcg on days 4 and 5 of the week (just seems to work better than on days 5 and 6, balls stay noticeably larger)

15mg of winstrol (5mg tabs 3 times a day) on fri/sat/sun to raise the free test levels and give the libido a big boost (then off for 4 days)... I could use proviron for the same thing but I've got a few hundred tabs of winstrol....

"standard" dosing is around 100-125mg test a week along with the little tickles of hcg, no deca, no winstrol, arimidex as needed.

 

[goin on 4T]

I'm an "old man" by the standards here... 53...

my weekly doses are:

175mg of test (1/4cc of supertest450 and 1/4cc of test-e) and (optionally, like now when I'm working up to a summer bod) 100mg of deca (1/2cc) in 1 stick on thursday AM (coming up in a few hours).

1/4mg of arimidex eod

250iu of hcg on days 4 and 5 of the week (just seems to work better than on days 5 and 6, balls stay noticeably larger)

15mg of winstrol (5mg tabs 3 times a day) on fri/sat/sun to raise the free test levels and give the libido a big boost (then off for 4 days)... I could use proviron for the same thing but I've got a few hundred tabs of winstrol....

"standard" dosing is around 100-125mg test a week along with the little tickles of hcg, no deca, no winstrol, arimidex as needed.

Hey old hack! JK
So I may have missed this somewhere but winny increases your libido while on test?