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Trouble post cycle

Jbiz00 said:
understandable but if those three killed it in the first place why would is start to take them again would that only put me back in the same boat.
the hcg and clomid did not kill your sex drive.

chances are, it was the combination of a swing of hormones, nolv, and letro.

thats why im saying (assuming the lumps are gone) to try just the clomid and hcg

just keep the others on hand in case of gyno symptoms
 
SwolK said:
the hcg and clomid did not kill your sex drive.

chances are, it was the combination of a swing of hormones, nolv, and letro.

thats why im saying (assuming the lumps are gone) to try just the clomid and hcg

just keep the others on hand in case of gyno symptoms


Yeah the lumps have been gone for a while now. The original cycle was finished about 8-10 months ago. Well i understand where your comming from now. i'm having a little trouble with getting the hcg its out right now. is there maybe something else i can replace that with. and how long do u recommend taking both for and what would the dosages be.

thanks for the help
 
Jbiz00 said:
Yeah the lumps have been gone for a while now. The original cycle was finished about 8-10 months ago. Well i understand where your comming from now. i'm having a little trouble with getting the hcg its out right now. is there maybe something else i can replace that with. and how long do u recommend taking both for and what would the dosages be.

thanks for the help
oh, did not know that cycle was done that long ago. so how long between end of PCT and when you started the letro?
 
Jbiz00 said:
Ok im having a little problem i was hopeing someone could help me out with. ive been lifting for about 7 years now was never to into cycling but was always curious. about a year ago i began my first cycle of:

1-10 500mg test cyp e/w
6-12 50mg winny e/d

pct nolvadex + clomid.

about six weeks in i began gettin lumps under my nipple, i was told to begin taking femara. started that until they went away. which was about 3 weeks.

my problem is ever since my cycle my sex drive is all messed up. i never really get up to full potential, and when i do it only lasts so long. its very diffucult for me to go multiple times in a night. I'm only 23 years old, i shouldnt be having this problem. before i started i had no such problems what so ever.

i thought maybe my test levels were still low from the cycle maybe impropper pct, so i was given advice to began taking 250 mgs of test ew to try to get back to normal. im 6 weeks in and im not really improving, only a little. my only thoughts on this is that i have low test levels, even still. i was wondering if there is anything i can do. or if i should go get checked out by a doctor.

which brings me to my next ?? if i do get checked out should i wait till im done with this bottle or should i stop and wait a certain time to my levels settle. and if they are low what happens next.

i would appericate any info here.

hey bro got to be real with yah......thats the worst shit ive ever heard. "im only 23 I shouldnt have this problem". Actually you decided to shoot that test into your body and the moment you did that not only did you risk your sex drive, but your overall health as well. You got to understand that you did this to yourself, you at 23 years old have a broken dick, yes it can be fixed but the only person you can blame is you.
Ok now im better. Im sure your a good guy this subject just hits me because it shows how uninformed most of us are about steroids before we start them, I say we because I was one of those retards myself. The second you dont respect these drugs and take them without realizing how real the side effects are you get tits, your dick dont work, your breathe smells like dikbeater soup, your blood pressure is fuked, and your leaking liquid from your tits, and your balls are teh size of a marble. So then you find yourself on the operating table getting your tits removed(been there done that).
Give it time most likely you will normalize. Just make sure you understand that being 23 dont mean nothing. I know this was a little rough but I hope it maybe helps one newb weigh their options heavily. Best of luck to yah.
 
SwolK said:
oh, did not know that cycle was done that long ago. so how long between end of PCT and when you started the letro?



1 -6 500mg test e (got lumps) cut down
6 -10 250 mg test e

wk 6 - started letro
wk 8-12 - winny 50mg e/d

wk 12 started pct for approx 4-5 weeks.

And as for rfowler i knew what i was getting my self into thats why i chose to take a cycle, I'm not looking for motherly advice, I'm looking for a way to help my situation so if u wish to just sit here and bash me like i'm an idiot pm me dont waste other peoples time that me be trying to fix there own problem. And i did years worth of research to see what would work the best wit my body i had everything writted down to the T of what i needed to do and did it. it just so happens my body reacted a little different then some. i was given advice my multiple people on multiple boards for eveything i have done. including this one, having a friend of mine post for me. and all the advice pilled up came out to what i did. the only problem was i couldnt take the hcg for a few reasons. overall i had great quality gains that still 10 months later are building on. So that u for your motherly advice.
 
SwolK said:
ok bro, here is my two cents:

should not have started test again, that will only further supress you (as others have said)

the Nolv and Letro probably killed your sex drive. chances are, it would have come back when off for a month or two

here is my opinion of what to do next

get some HCG, Clomid and Nolv and letro (femera).

1. stop the test
2. take 500 of HCG starting the next day for 10 days (assuming it was test E or C)
3. after those 10 days, start clomid at 50mg a day for 30 days
4. have Nolv and letro on hand in case of lumps again
Agree with above or look at Omega's products
 
One of my training buddies is 23, same sort of problem, except he got depressed.

He had blood work done, and 9 months after coming off his cycle, his test levels were that of a woman's.

A year on, and his test levels are at the bottom end of normal.

Your test levels would have peaked at about 26, so messing with the endocrine system can result in all sorts of complications.

It could take some time for things to revert back to normal, and you are going to have to give it time.
 
Seriously, listen to Nelson, and Nelson- I'm gonna agree with you on one thing- clomid sucks, I know- had to find out myself though.

Next, bro do a modified shortened version of AR's PCT this time, it'll definitely kick your nutz back in. Check it out:

http://www.isteroids.com/steroids/Post Cycle Threapy (PCT).html

The PCT is at the bottom of the link, the article tells why- scientifically- you do what you do on PCT.

Hope this helps.

Nelson, got your PM, thanks for that advise, I really appreciate it.
 
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