Tren cycle with an oral

[superturkey]

Stats

200lb
13.5% bf
6"
26yrs

This is about my fifth cycle, and first with tren.
My goal is to gain lean mass and rip up, with minimal bloat.

This is my first draft of what i have in mind, and have different options with the orals.

1-8 tren ace 50mg ED
1-4 beastdrol 30mg ED
4-8 anavar 80mg ED
1-8 N2guard
1-8 caber 25mg twice weekly
Forma stanzol??
4-8 Hcgenerate

With this possibly over-doing it with the orals, i could just stick to one.
And do i reli need forma as an ai because i dont see this aromatasing??

PCT
Clomid 25/12.2/12.5/12.5
Post cycle/unleashed
Forma stanzol???

Go ahead critique please
Diet advice would be good too, as i havnt used tren before, can i still keep calories reasonbly high or is it worth dropping them for true fat loss.
I was going to consider CKD unless i need the carbs with this. In which case i would scrap the beast from the cycle as it requires a high calorie diet.

 

[stevesmi]

you don't need the forma, clomid and post cycle will help with any estrogen issues which shouldn't be an issue with the compounds you are taking. you can run some though the week prior to you comping to flush any excess water if you plan on taking pics.

stacking beast with tren is gonna be rough... you may be able to get away with it early in the cycle but since you are using ace you could run into lethargy early on into week 2. at the very least drop beast to 20mg.. I cannot handle beast at 30mg on its own so i cannot imagine with tren. tren + legit var you should be setting PR's. i only used 60mg and was setting PR's so you may not need to go 80.

also the caber is .25 not 25.. you forgot the decimal in your post i think

may want to up the n2guard to 10 caps per day just based on personal experience.

have fun and make sure you go into this type of cycle in good heart health and you up your calories especially early on... the last couple weeks you can start reducing calories and cut down.. but tren and beast need calories or you will feel lethargic.. you will have a very successful cycle if you can stay healthy and work your ass off in the gym.

 

[biesel13]

I would drop the beast and only do Var with Tren bro. Sick cycle, but half the time you won't have the energy to get your workouts done. Listen to stevesmi. He knows ALOT about Tren hahaha

 

[AAP]

I would drop the beast and only do Var with Tren bro.

This.

With the tren, I would suggest you take it immediately before bed, that way by the time it peaks you already have had a good night's sleep and will not be subject to the lethargic issues.

Make sure you add in a multi vit, baby aspirin, liver protector and cranberry extract on a daily basis. These are very cheap and there is no reason not to have them. If you can't spend money on these items, you should not be doing a cycle yet.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ he's covered for all that with N2guard.

 

[RickRock13]

I agree with the others on dropping the Beast. That is going to be too rough on you to do with Tren. Tren/Var would be a great cycle

 

[AAP]

^^^ he's covered for all that with N2guard.

It has baby aspirin and cranberry extract?

 

[stevesmi]

It has baby aspirin and cranberry extract?

no but I'm pretty certain it has similar cycle support .. nelson will have to answer that for sure though, he developed the product. I will PM him this thread and have him answer cause I am curious myself.

its like night and day running tren with and without n2guard though I can tell you from personal experience. I've got 2 bottles in my pantry on hand always so i never run out.

 

[Nelson Montana]

It has baby aspirin and cranberry extract?

Cranberry extract is good for urinary infections but holds no advantage to being on cycle. (I also think the main advantage is the fluid more than the actual cranberry).

Baby aspirin is just a quarter dosage of aspirin and it's a drug and needs a separate license to sell . I'm also not sure of what the advantage would be on cycle but if you want it , taking a 1/4 of an aspirin would be easy enough. Everyone has aspirin in the house and it'll cost about a penny.

 

[Alphacore200]

1-3 tren ace 100mg eod
4-6 tren ace 150mg eod
1-8 var 30/50/50/50/70/70/70/70mg
6-8 IP halotestin 10/20/20/30mg
1-4 Adex .5mg eod
4-8 Adex 1mg eod
1-8 N2 guard

It will harden u up...
Although if u can find legit IP halos they are kinda hard to come by