Tren Ace and Deca

[Indy]

Normally I would never recommend Tren and Deca in same cycle, for reason of 2 Nandralone based compounds. However I have read that several bro's have been doing this, and I want to know their results. My thinking was to come back from being sick, run the Tren Ace for a few weeks until the Deca can start kicking in, I dont have any fast acting deca and finding it has been pretty tough.

What you guys think of using the Tren Ace as a pseudo frontload if you will ??

 

[jay1]

I got great results from test/tren/deca. I didnt gain a pound but I was very pleased with the changes in my body. I ran the test at 500mg/wk and deca at 300mg/wk for 16 weeks and ran the tren at 75 mg/eod from week 2 thru 14.

 

[flex2win]

I know that there are people that run the two of them, and don't realize that they are essentially cousins..doesn't sound like that's the case here. If you are just gonna run the ace to get things kickn until week 4 or so, sounds solid..concerns would arise if you were running the two for a period of 12+ weeks together, that's where I would be worried..

 

[jay1]

They maybe cousins but they act totally differently, at least in my body.

 

[UA_Iron]

makes perfect sense to run the most anabolic and one of the most androgenic steroids together in the same cycle. Thats where the idea of "stacking" came from.

But on the other hand both being progestins I could only imagine what kind of shut down you'd have.

This is the way I would do it:

NPP 1-8
tren 1-8
test prop 1-12
10mg dbol 10-14
500iu HCG 3x/week 7-12
dostinex .5mg e4d 1-12
aromasin 12.5-25mg/day 1-14
pct nolvadex 40mg days 1-10, 20mg days 11-45

I think the ancillaries would kill your wallet before the AAS would.

 

[Indy]

makes perfect sense to run the most anabolic and one of the most androgenic steroids together in the same cycle. Thats where the idea of "stacking" came from.

But on the other hand both being progestins I could only imagine what kind of shut down you'd have.

This is the way I would do it:

NPP 1-8
tren 1-8
test prop 1-12
10mg dbol 10-14
500iu HCG 3x/week 7-12
dostinex .5mg e4d 1-12
aromasin 12.5-25mg/day 1-14
pct nolvadex 40mg days 1-10, 20mg days 11-45

I think the ancillaries would kill your wallet before the AAS would.

Wallet is of no concern, want my shit back QUICKLY

 

[Ulter]

2 nandrolone based compounds?

Yes I take them together all the time. But I am not the least bit sensitive to progestins. If you are then you could have problems because they are both progestins.
I use 400mg of deca and 75 or 100mg a day depending on how out of shape I am. Next week I'll be using 75mg/day with 400mg deca and 500mg test

 

[UA_Iron]

Wallet is of no concern, want my shit back QUICKLY

I think I changed my mind from test prop to test enanthate - volumous ed injections suck (thats why I dont like npp - the dosage).

I am pretty sure what I stated is a safe way to run them together and still recover fast.

 

[wayneboard1]

makes perfect sense to run the most anabolic and one of the most androgenic steroids together in the same cycle. Thats where the idea of "stacking" came from.

But on the other hand both being progestins I could only imagine what kind of shut down you'd have.

This is the way I would do it:

NPP 1-8
tren 1-8
test prop 1-12
10mg dbol 10-14
500iu HCG 3x/week 7-12
dostinex .5mg e4d 1-12
aromasin 12.5-25mg/day 1-14
pct nolvadex 40mg days 1-10, 20mg days 11-45

I think the ancillaries would kill your wallet before the AAS would.

I think UA is dead on here. I have never run these two compounds like this so I cannot speak from experience, only what I have read and seen first hand. And yes money isn't an issue with daddy warbucks. lol

To get your boys back as quick as possible, HCG is an obvious must...at least to me but thats pointing out the obvious.

 

[jay1]

Hcg and nolva had me back in no time but I am still dealing with acne from this cycle.

 

[UA_Iron]

others I know have run:

npp 1-8
tren 8-16

which seems like a better idea to me. Kind of bulking and cutting in the same cycle. I know deca has a tendency to put love handles on me etc (well probably my diet - but you get the idea).

 

[LVTitan]

read his post guys , he DOES NOT have any NPP.. he was considering a deca cycle, with a frontload of tren, the idea being that the tren would almost work the same as NPP to get the nandrolone into his system faster...

am i correct indy, is that what you kinda had in mind ???

anyway, i've not used tren, but from what i know it does really work the same way as deca, it is way more androgenic even though it's a nandrolone..
THIS IS JUST AN OPINION, MY THEORY, NOT BASED ON FACTS :
I Think you would be okay to run the tren for the first 4 weeks, then stop. by then you will have seem some major improvements (or should have i would think) and the deca would really be starting to do it's thing by then too, so just consider running the deca another 6-10 weeks depending on how long you plan on cycling. i wouldn't go longer than 15 weeks on the deca.. you already know about pct and recovery, just do what you gotta do afterward..

i like the idea. but i have no personal experience with tren to base this on

 

[UA_Iron]

read his post guys , he DOES NOT have any NPP.. he was considering a deca cycle, with a frontload of tren, the idea being that the tren would almost work the same as NPP to get the nandrolone into his system faster...

am i correct indy, is that what you kinda had in mind ???

anyway, i've not used tren, but from what i know it does really work the same way as deca, it is way more androgenic even though it's a nandrolone..
THIS IS JUST AN OPINION, MY THEORY, NOT BASED ON FACTS :
I Think you would be okay to run the tren for the first 4 weeks, then stop. by then you will have seem some major improvements (or should have i would think) and the deca would really be starting to do it's thing by then too, so just consider running the deca another 6-10 weeks depending on how long you plan on cycling. i wouldn't go longer than 15 weeks on the deca.. you already know about pct and recovery, just do what you gotta do afterward..


i like the idea. but i have no personal experience with tren to base this on

tren for only 4 weeks? I would think winny or dbol would be a better choice.
I'd run it for at least 6 weeks.

 

[LVTitan]

i dont think he wants to run a "Tren" cycle, he wants to run a "deca" cycle, but has no NPP to frontload with, so he was considering tren instead of NPP in the beginning, as it is fast acting gear. maybe he wants to stay away from orals, i'm not sure.. but yeah dbol is a good companion to deca from what i've read. but i dont dbol anymore either and i love my deca.
INDY, if you try it lemme know for sure, or if you want i will try it for you, my deca/eq is in the mail coming now... but if you wanna send me a little bit of tren, i will gladly try it out and tell you... i have never run tren before so it would be a cool experiment.

 

[Indy]

i dont think he wants to run a "Tren" cycle, he wants to run a "deca" cycle, but has no NPP to frontload with, so he was considering tren instead of NPP in the beginning, as it is fast acting gear. maybe he wants to stay away from orals, i'm not sure.. but yeah dbol is a good companion to deca from what i've read. but i dont dbol anymore either and i love my deca.
INDY, if you try it lemme know for sure, or if you want i will try it for you, my deca/eq is in the mail coming now... but if you wanna send me a little bit of tren, i will gladly try it out and tell you... i have never run tren before so it would be a cool experiment.

LVTITAN, you read it correctly bro, didn't want a full Tren cycle right now, but without NPP I wanted another nandrolone based compound (fast acting) to run 3-4 weeks until the deca really kicks in. Will also be running test with it, but prop is an easy frontload as I have that, just dont have NPP, everyone seems dried up on it. You want to experiment also, I can see how much acetate I have left, most of mine is Tren Hex, but I'll check if you want.

Indy

 

[LVTitan]

LVTITAN, you read it correctly bro, didn't want a full Tren cycle right now, but without NPP I wanted another nandrolone based compound (fast acting) to run 3-4 weeks until the deca really kicks in. Will also be running test with it, but prop is an easy frontload as I have that, just dont have NPP, everyone seems dried up on it. You want to experiment also, I can see how much acetate I have left, most of mine is Tren Hex, but I'll check if you want.

Indy

yeah do that, i've always stayed away from tren cause of the stories i hear, but i think it's time i found out for myself what it's all about.. thx indy

 

[RADAR]

Normally I would never recommend Tren and Deca in same cycle, for reason of 2 Nandralone based compounds. However I have read that several bro's have been doing this, and I want to know their results. My thinking was to come back from being sick, run the Tren Ace for a few weeks until the Deca can start kicking in, I dont have any fast acting deca and finding it has been pretty tough.

What you guys think of using the Tren Ace as a pseudo frontload if you will ??

I see nothing wrong with it, 6 wks of tren.
I hope you are planning on adding test to that.


RADAR

 

[Indy]

I see nothing wrong with it, 6 wks of tren.
I hope you are planning on adding test to that.


RADAR

Planning on Sust/Deca cycle, but with Susp having prop it assists in getting things moving quickly even though it a low dose. I was hopeing o run a few weeks of NPP to kick start my deca before it kicks in. I have been out long enough I want to try and gain some weight back, as much as possible in next 8 weeks.

 

[growthspurt]

Planning on Sust/Deca cycle, but with Susp having prop it assists in getting things moving quickly even though it a low dose. I was hopeing o run a few weeks of NPP to kick start my deca before it kicks in. I have been out long enough I want to try and gain some weight back, as much as possible in next 8 weeks.

Bro,
You might want to edit this post! There is some sensitive info your giving.
Couldn't sleep either, Indy?

 

[Indy]

Bro,
You might want to edit this post! There is some sensitive info your giving.
Couldn't sleep either, Indy?

Bro that stoagie you are smoking must be a blunt, there are no violations there.

 

[LVTitan]

Bro,
You might want to edit this post! There is some sensitive info your giving.
Couldn't sleep either, Indy?

i was thinking the same thing... not everyone needs to know everything ya know ....

ps, what state is it in ? you know we have ways of getting things for people, lemme know i have secure maill.

 

[satchboogie]

dick problems may become harsh... but not necessarily!

other than that its a great cycle..
deca being a very strong anabolic..
and tren a very strong androgenic.

id take at least 250mg test with it though.

 

[DJ_UFO]

Planning on Sust/Deca cycle, but with Susp having prop it assists in getting things moving quickly even though it a low dose. I was hopeing o run a few weeks of NPP to kick start my deca before it kicks in. I have been out long enough I want to try and gain some weight back, as much as possible in next 8 weeks. ..

band.

 

[nautica]

2 nandrolone based compounds?

Yes I take them together all the time. But I am not the least bit sensitive to progestins. If you are then you could have problems because they are both progestins.
I use 400mg of deca and 75 or 100mg a day depending on how out of shape I am. Next week I'll be using 75mg/day with 400mg deca and 500mg test

LUCKY BASTERED!!!!!!! I never had hardly anysides at all and absolutely no sides of gyno until, tren. About 5 yrs or so ago, I broke my arm, couple of surgeries, steel plates and about a year later, I walk in the gym for the first time, put on a plate on each side to stretch out (Bench about 475 lbs before I broke my arm), anyway first time down I tore 1/2 of the pec major. From the nipple down.

So when I finally, got back into the gym and had a couple of months to get back into it pretty hard, I decided on tren for my first cycle. 50 mg EOD and I had gyno in 3 weeks. What was funny about it was that it was only in the chest that had not been torn the other was fine. Now, or at least a couple of years or so ago, I was prone to all kinds of gyno, especially tren.

So, what and how much is the abosule best for lets say a cycle that at some time or other included, dbol and/or A-bombs, tren ace, NPP, and of course test.

thx
nautica

 

[dosteov]

others I know have run:

npp 1-8
tren 8-16

which seems like a better idea to me. Kind of bulking and cutting in the same cycle. I know deca has a tendency to put love handles on me etc (well probably my diet - but you get the idea).

I'm currently running that same cycle basically (with Test throughout). I switched over to Ace this week. I saw some pretty awesome gains from NPP (but was retaining alot of water, at the time I thought I was getting fat but have lost alot of "fat" this past week).

In regards to shutting down. Once your shut down you're shut down right? I mean 16 weeks of Test will shut you down completely. You can't get any more shut down then that.

 

[Ozz2001]

I got great results from test/tren/deca. I didnt gain a pound but I was very pleased with the changes in my body. I ran the test at 500mg/wk and deca at 300mg/wk for 16 weeks and ran the tren at 75 mg/eod from week 2 thru 14.

DIDnt gain a pound lmfao...Hard to believe if your shit was good...

 

[Demonix]

Future cycle I was thinking of running tren/test prop for first 6-8 weeks for starter while doing deca/text cyp. Not sure if I would run them together - maybe some cycle down the road I might.

 

[LVTitan]

I'm currently running that same cycle basically (with Test throughout). I switched over to Ace this week. I saw some pretty awesome gains from NPP (but was retaining alot of water, at the time I thought I was getting fat but have lost alot of "fat" this past week).

In regards to shutting down. Once your shut down you're shut down right? I mean 16 weeks of Test will shut you down completely. You can't get any more shut down then that.

they are speaking in terms of recovery... being shut down harder, simply means that recovery will be more difficult and take longer to get back up to normal, hope this helps

 

[satchboogie]

INDY... what do i have locked for 10k??
im clueless... lol

 

[MastaAce]

If you run them alongside a higher dose of test then there shouldn't be any problems. Run b6 and keep some bromo on hand to prevent any progesterone problems!

 

[view]

i've run tren enanthate, deca, and test enanthate all at once. probably the one of the better cycles I have run. 400/400/500mg respectively. i also used 1mg of cabaser twice per week with 40mg of nolva to make sure I didn't grow titties.

libido was just average on that cycle.

 

[LVTitan]

do you think you have gotten away with half as much cabaser ?

 

[Indy]

INDY... what do i have locked for 10k??
im clueless... lol

that would be my red convertible, can I have it back now, or do I still have the pay the 10k storage fee ???? I'l really like to have it for spring...sorry to all of those that it sounded "other than intended" in the beginning sometimes personal conversations happen here that not everyone is privy too.

sorry,
Indy

 

[Tux]

I've run deca/tren together, and liked the combo. It was long-acting deca with regular tren ace though. I like NPP much better than regular deca, so one of my future cycles is going to be NPP/tren ace/test prop, and THAT cycle is going to rock!

 

[Indy]

I've run deca/tren together, and liked the combo. It was long-acting deca with regular tren ace though. I like NPP much better than regular deca, so one of my future cycles is going to be NPP/tren ace/test prop, and THAT cycle is going to rock!

Thanks, I wanted to hear that, your pm request has been answered by the way.

d=

 

[view]

do you think you have gotten away with half as much cabaser ?

Maybe. tough to say. I don't take any chances though.

 

[MTS]

why not run lower Tren doses 75-100mg EOD and throw some Winny and Nolva in the picture that should cut down on some of the tren and deca sides
then just do 250-500 of test a week
ending up with something like this
week 1-8 tren 100mg EOD
week 1-8 wistrol 25-40mg EOD
week 1-16 deca 400mg Wk
week 1-16 test 250-500mg Wk (up the test around week 8-9)

 

[Makavelli]

Tren wouldn't be my first choice for a kickstart, but it will work. Keep in mind that just because tren and deca are both nandrolone derivatives doesn't mean that they act the same. We all know that their effects are very different. I'm sure you know that Indy, but you mentioned that you wanted to run it due to tren being a nandrolone(nor-testosterone) derivative. I would kick start with Winstrol or T-Bol before I would tren. You're the first person I've seen kickstart with tren. Let us know how it works. I like adding tren in after everything else is in full swing.

 

[view]

Tren wouldn't be my first choice for a kickstart, but it will work. Keep in mind that just because tren and deca are both nandrolone derivatives doesn't mean that they act the same. We all know that their effects are very different. I'm sure you know that Indy, but you mentioned that you wanted to run it due to tren being a nandrolone(nor-testosterone) derivative. I would kick start with Winstrol or T-Bol before I would tren. You're the first person I've seen kickstart with tren. Let us know how it works. I like adding tren in after everything else is in full swing.

The only other guy I knew who decided to kickstart his cycle with tren ended up running it for the whole 12 weeks instead of the first 3 hahahah. and we are talking 100mgs daily too.

 

[Destroyer1986*]

Bit off topic, but is that a glock in a gun holster on the side of your jeans indy . You live in a bad neighbourhood?

 

[LVTitan]

Bit off topic, but is that a glock in a gun holster on the side of your jeans indy . You live in a bad neighbourhood?

no, he's just another internet tough guy !!

 

[jay1]

DIDnt gain a pound lmfao...Hard to believe if your shit was good...

It was good trust me..the tren was homebrew and test/deca was QV.
Truthfully I gained about 5 lbs. All muscle while the fat was melting off without doing any cardio.

 

[Beachboy6294]

Normally I would never recommend Tren and Deca in same cycle, for reason of 2 Nandralone based compounds. However I have read that several bro's have been doing this, and I want to know their results. My thinking was to come back from being sick, run the Tren Ace for a few weeks until the Deca can start kicking in, I dont have any fast acting deca and finding it has been pretty tough.

What you guys think of using the Tren Ace as a pseudo frontload if you will ??

Sorry to hear you was sick bro and I know how you feel about wanting to get it back quick! I have one more week til I get the ok to lift again!

 

[INNOCENT]

last spring, i had great success with running deca/tren/test/eq for a couple of months...never looked better in my life. it was one of my best cycles that i have ever run. i was also using cabaster .5 two times a week, and liquidex at the time.